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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 13:27 GMT
#1321
On June 12 2023 22:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:23 CopCake wrote:
Btw you shouldnt treat me in a “special way” because of rayn.


It’s respect for his town read on you. Nothing more.


Obviously I respect you as a human being. In The game, the fact you are Rayns partner or a girl doesn’t matter to me. I show my respect by holding you to the same standard as all the other experienced players here.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 12 2023 13:27 GMT
#1322
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 13:31 GMT
#1323
On June 12 2023 22:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Chezinu called me mafia
Slam called me mafia

I didnt went hard on them?


Where did slam call you mafia btw. Didn’t he just stick a placeholder vote on you because I was a strong town read of his and was the opposing Wagon.

Did you just tell a lie copcake?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:36 GMT
#1324
On June 12 2023 22:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:08 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Chezinu called me mafia
Slam called me mafia

I didnt went hard on them?


Where did slam call you mafia btw. Didn’t he just stick a placeholder vote on you because I was a strong town read of his and was the opposing Wagon.

Did you just tell a lie copcake?


Is the placeholder, yes.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:39 GMT
#1325
I think I will just ignore you, because this won’t benefit town.

Peace!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:39 GMT
#1326
Oh and let others sort me out.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 13:42 GMT
#1327
On June 12 2023 22:36 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:08 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:52 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 21:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Look at filters for D1 between last game and this one:
Endurance Mafia CC reads on D1 (from obs QT):
    *Rayn
    *Koshi
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *Slam
    *Chez
    *Chez
    *DMB
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DMB
    *vivax
    *MZ
    *DP
    *Koshi
    *Slam


Endurance Mafia II CC reads on D1:
    *Slam
    *DP
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *Rayn
    *DP
    *Rayn
    *LS
    *TTT


These are approx. cos I did it fast, but should be fairly reasonable birds eye view of her actions. There's no flipflopping this game, only blind read on Rayn early, singular shallow reads, and tunnels on people who suspect her.


This is a lie, I called LS and Slam town.


That actually makes you look worse in my opinion.


That fact you have only one scum read all game and haven’t actively suspected anyone who hasn’t suspected you make la you look worse to be clear


I called you and TTT mafia 🤷🏽‍♀️


How is this not what I said? You OMGUSed the people who were on you. And you tunneled hard D1. Last game it took you until D3 to even close to tunnel. You then suspended the tunnel D4 and jumped back on D5, so not even a true tunnel until D5!!


Chezinu called me mafia
Slam called me mafia

I didnt went hard on them?


Where did slam call you mafia btw. Didn’t he just stick a placeholder vote on you because I was a strong town read of his and was the opposing Wagon.

Did you just tell a lie copcake?


Is the placeholder, yes.


And you told a lie about chez too. Cause I just read both their filters and neither of them call you mafia.

So what are you actually saying here?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:47 GMT
#1328
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 13:48 GMT
#1329
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:50 GMT
#1330
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 13:52 GMT
#1331
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.

This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.

I won’t post further, again I am being infinitely reasonable hopefully if you are somehow town you can work towards making that evident.

Very interested on vivax and rayns view of your alignment at this point and
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 12 2023 13:55 GMT
#1332
- ignored forever now -
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 12 2023 14:02 GMT
#1333
On June 07 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
/in but I may not be as active as before


Meanwhile, Cake after opening his filter looking for a way to reply:



On June 12 2023 22:55 CopCake wrote:
- ignored forever now -

TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 12 2023 14:05 GMT
#1334
Slam did vote CC, but IIRC he explicitly stated it was just to save DP. That's very different from something OMGUSable unless there was something more.

I'm unaware of any such convention with the lists but I genuinely don't know. I just assumed Chez was being cryptic and he'll be able to contextualise that post later? What's with the spacing? Is it a town tier list?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 12 2023 14:28 GMT
#1335
On June 12 2023 23:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
/in but I may not be as active as before


Meanwhile, Cake after opening his filter looking for a way to reply:

https://youtu.be/ohM60o8_QjM?t=60

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:55 CopCake wrote:
- ignored forever now -



Having played with Copcake before, do you think there is anything she has done to give you the impression she is town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 12 2023 14:40 GMT
#1336
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
June 12 2023 14:48 GMT
#1337
On June 12 2023 23:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 23:02 Vivax wrote:
On June 07 2023 06:58 DarthPunk wrote:
/in but I may not be as active as before


Meanwhile, Cake after opening his filter looking for a way to reply:

https://youtu.be/ohM60o8_QjM?t=60

On June 12 2023 22:55 CopCake wrote:
- ignored forever now -



Having played with Copcake before, do you think there is anything she has done to give you the impression she is town?


I don‘t fancy myself a good reader of her.

In Chezinu streaks she was mafia and I couldn‘t tell iirc. But I think she‘s generally more contributive with less pressure to a point where you can revisit her filter and figure out other alignments from that when she‘s mafia.

So you‘d be better off avoiding to tilt her to gather a genuine response. As you‘re giving her an out from generating fake reads when she can just omgus her pursuers.

There‘s signs of sloppiness in her filter like when she assumed I had a read on her. That was an exaggeration of what I had asked of her in the night that I could see make her scum.

I‘d vote her, but that‘s cause I‘m willing to compromise, not because I think she‘s slamdunk scum. And I‘d feel stupid if she wasn‘t and it ended up to be an instance of marv/vayo/mz or something of the sort.

That said, I could use more input from MZ after that Nk.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2023 14:58 GMT
#1338
On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote:
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first?

Why you think TTT is obvious mafia if I may ask? From what I read in your filter you never your read on him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 12 2023 15:00 GMT
#1339
At least up until this point Chez
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 15:25 GMT
#1340
On June 12 2023 22:50 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2023 22:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 12 2023 22:47 CopCake wrote:
On June 12 2023 11:11 Chezinu wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Vivax

Meapak_Ziphh

marvellosity
DarthPunk

Vayoletta
CopCake

TankTopTiger - saved for endgame with Slam


————-


What does that even mean? he is not calling anyone anything there.


Top people tend to be town, and the deeper, the scummier, that is how most people do lists here.


On June 12 2023 22:52 DarthPunk wrote:
It seems like you are incredibly conscious of any, even remote suspicion towards you.

This is also a classic mafia trait, more focused on suspicion towards you than determining the alignment of others.

You can't be fucking serious DP?
Everyone probably understood that list post,...
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