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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2023 16:58 GMT
#1361
And honestly anything will probably be more interesting

Like MZ talking now

I will let him take over while I go to work
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2023 17:11 GMT
#1362
On June 11 2023 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 06:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Can you explain like I’m five why cop is town so I can move on? Cause the emotion argument is something I place very little emphasis on in general.

I don't see any problems with her train of thought especially in the argument with you. Sure probably not all the things are right but i believe she genuinely believes in what she says. Your case is mostly about her having a strong town read on me. I don't necessarily think it's impossible for her to have a town read on me, and the town read doesn't even need to be strong to question you on the things she did (which started from like the same thing i started questioning you).

Hell i would have done the same i did if you asked your question towards anyone but me, even if i didn't have a town read on them.

Can I just point out that DP’s weird early strong townread on DMB last game clearly pinged me and led to my tunnel on DP later. Except DP was doing that as town. So if that’s the basis for CC read it’s not a very good one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 17:30 GMT
#1363
Welcome back marv. I am working until 6:30 am, i am just gonna check at times and let you do your thing. I'm gonna post my thoughts in the morning when i get home and have full access to quote from filters and shit, not really fan of doing it at work although i have access to computer here.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2023 17:35 GMT
#1364
15 pages to go and I’m going to workout. So will continue to read the rest in between sets. Just finished d1 lynch and it was all a bit sad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
June 12 2023 17:38 GMT
#1365
On June 13 2023 01:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 01:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 12 2023 23:40 Chezinu wrote:
TTT is obv mafia, but should we kill DP first?

Is this a question to someone in the thread or a statement of what you believe?

I think the latter

If it's a statement of chez's reads then I hate that post too.

My priorities for reading when I get home are gonna be vivax/dead Hapa/copcake again/now chez too
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2023 17:42 GMT
#1366
I really thought DP had a good shot of being mafia for quite a while when reading, he seemed more ‘together’ than last game and I’d generally characterise that as him being more likely mafia than town.

But if he is maf he did an exceptionally good job at ‘caring’ about the lynch. Makes it a lot a lot less likely
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2023 17:43 GMT
#1367
Think I’m missing something with the Slam townreads as I can’t differentiate his play so much from last game so far.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 17:44 GMT
#1368
On June 13 2023 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Think I’m missing something with the Slam townreads as I can’t differentiate his play so much from last game so far.

Short answer from my part would be he seems more "happy" than last game.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2023 17:45 GMT
#1369
On June 13 2023 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Think I’m missing something with the Slam townreads as I can’t differentiate his play so much from last game so far.

Short answer from my part would be he seems more "happy" than last game.

Doesn’t feel like much?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 17:53 GMT
#1370
Nope, it's not too much.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
June 12 2023 18:20 GMT
#1371
On June 13 2023 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 23:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:40 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:18 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:08 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 22:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 22:53 Vivax wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

Oooff

this is good actually.



On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that.


On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]
Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


The only thing not in good faith is that last post, it's neither mad nor are the questions particularly alignment indicative. And you didn't even ask what she had for lunch. If I told you I buried a hatchet under my sunchair, would you not want to know what it looked like?


How is it not in good faith? I am trying to establish the facts of the matter? and understand why someone would misrepresent them? in fact it's so in good faith I am considering the option that she is just not reading correctly.

Can I ask why you are still pushing this when you were so tragically incorrect about my LS take and that is the genesis of your scum read on me in the first place.
That is


In hindsight it was about me pointing out how recycling posts is so blatantly careless that mafia would be less likely to do it.
The post probably makes more sense if you read it from a mindset where I was half baked at the phone, noticing your disregard for the two crucial pieces of information that LS' was a recycled post and that cake had cake for lunch.

And also that I couldn't follow the argument you were making about cop being mafia and a read of her filter did nothing to change my mind about it.


Well presumably you are now enlightened, does that change anything for you.


I barely manage to keep electricity going, imagine being enlightened.

On June 09 2023 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now.


This is probs the point I could see as the most valid as rayn's the one who should have the best grasp on her alignment, but I have no guarantee that rayn isn't mafia and took an easy route when you offered it to him and (in my opinion) coerced him into going after Cake.


That is a very valid point.

Also, I don't coerce Rayn to do shit. Rayn does his own thing and chooses what he does and doesn't place value in.

So, all this being the case, who do you want to lynch right now?


The way he went after Cop had a similar dynamic to you+marv pushing me towards mebaby last game.
Felt like coercion then, as it's not something I wanted to do but had no way of countering.

Ok so are we both town then? Because Marv and I were both town last game vivax!

Yeah, Vivax’s post is nonsense because I very openly spent as much time as I could trying to clear DMB and never came close to voting for her.


Which post ? Mafia couldn‘t try to clear dmb ?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:23 GMT
#1372
Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch.

On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain.

Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS.

On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.

I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.

I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1.

In between here LS claims.
On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now

Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:25 GMT
#1373
Or is doubling down like "i want it more now"? If so, then forget about that post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:25 GMT
#1374
On June 13 2023 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or is doubling down like "i want it more now"? If so, then forget about that post.

or the last part.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:27 GMT
#1375
So basically MZ's enthusiasm for caring about the lynch pretty much tells me that he is not mafia with Vayoletta, nothing more. it's kinda funny because 95% sure one of them has to be mafia.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2023 18:29 GMT
#1376
On June 13 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain.

Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.

I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.

I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1.

In between here LS claims.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now

Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol?

You have stolen my thoughts on MZ around the lynch
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 12 2023 18:36 GMT
#1377
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:40 GMT
#1378
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

I would love to hear your complete thoughts on TTT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 12 2023 18:42 GMT
#1379
Chezinu, you ol' messenger i summon thee!!!
What do you think Slam's alignment is, and can you give some reasoning behind the read please?
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Vayoletta
Profile Joined May 2023
50 Posts
June 12 2023 18:56 GMT
#1380
On June 13 2023 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 03:36 Vayoletta wrote:
Im now free from my long term guest and can play properly.

My PoE right now is Vivax, Chez, Marvellosity and Mz.

I believe LS’s claim. I read Copcake and Slam town. I trust rayn’s and CopCake’s point on DP to not suspect him now, but I am not quite sold on rayn being town. I hope I will find him as I go through the material.

I hope I did not forget anyone.

I would love to hear your complete thoughts on TTT.


Looks like I did indeed miss someone.

TTT felt townish to me in his approach to the DP/rayn/CopCake thing and at first I thought his approach was towny. However, I kinda recall he was not very confrontational avout it and didn’t take strong stances about it, which could be mafia tmi.

I quess I would put him in the PoE, even though his gameplay does resonate with me.

I still have not finished reading D1, so I might find something relevant.
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