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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 15 2023 11:40 GMT
#2401
Slightly offtopic but DP going from archon to arbiter at this timing is lol
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 15 2023 11:41 GMT
#2402
On June 15 2023 20:40 CopCake wrote:
The problem with the case is the “but” of the last paragraph of first quoted post.

Does he mean he read DP later or he still has it at scum there?

I dont wanna be played by “missunderstanding” so I wanna be sure.


He said he thought I was mafia for a good while.

and then says he doesn't understand why I had any votes day one.

Pretty clear to me why that doesn't mesh CC.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 15 2023 11:42 GMT
#2403
On June 15 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
Slightly offtopic but DP going from archon to arbiter at this timing is lol


Yeah I noticed that too.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 11:42 GMT
#2404
On June 15 2023 20:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, most of my thinking about TTT was purely from the view of wagonomics (that’s definitely a word right?).


the only post that even mentions wagonomics for his thinking on TTT was this:

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf


Nah the switch back to Vayo to secure a town ! Ttt lynch.

That assumes that mafia think TTT easier to lynch than Vayo?


Actually most of his thinking was based on reading his filter:


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On June 14 2023 03:18 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, I have just spent quite a bit of time in TTT’s filter, then I read your case at the end of it. I mentioned previously that TTT had disregarded information in the thread that contradicted his own tunnel. I went and found where it started to make it easier for you to check: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/609557-tl-endures-mafia?page=148#2942

Essentially the history being that TTT thought he caught me in some sort of trap about what I said about LS sheeping me. He thought that I was talking about LS voting me, rather than following my vote on to DP in weak fashion. I posted my posts in thread to show this and he ignored it. Obviously it’s poor play to ignore evidence, but then again the direct evidence here is that a town TTT will ignore evidence. What makes it a little bit more difficult to stomach is that TTT does talk in his filter about learning from the tunnel on me, but makes the same ‘mistake’ (if that’s what it is) on CC.

Just to touch on your point about the “twice as weird” thing again now I reread his filter and your case - the not-mafia explanation here is that he originally found CC’s read on you weird, rowed back on it after an explanation, then found it weird again with the information that CC tends not to read you as town.

For me the strangest thing about his filter is the near obsession with DP; obviously they know each other irl so part of it must be that. But there’s a lot of dangling DP there as possibly mafia while consistently reading him town for not much other than ‘pro town’ posting. To me that doesn’t mesh very well compared to his nuts tunnel on me last game, I would have thought he would be more willing to interrogate his DP read, or otherwise have better reasons to read him town.



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On June 14 2023 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
If I read TTT’s filter I can find more reasons for him to be town than Vayo. I don’t know if that means TTT is actually town but I do think he’s a worse lynch


He is saying to rayn that his thinking on you (maybe being town) was mostly due to the makeup of the wagons, but this is in fact not the case as he stated it was from reading your filters.


That's fine, and like a bit bad from Marv, but it's diluting the case IMO. It's the sort of thing he could talk his way out of and also I'm not convinced a town marv couldn't do after his not reading my trap question last game properly. I could make that mistake as town.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 11:44 GMT
#2405
I mean, if you feel it's important then go ahead, don't let me micromanage you. But the first two parts I'm wildly excited about and the third I see as meh.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:44 GMT
#2406
Btw I dont remember playing with Happa, if so he would have a nickname, just like baby became jelly beans or marv was marshmallow the first time I played with him.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:50 GMT
#2407
On June 15 2023 20:41 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 20:40 CopCake wrote:
The problem with the case is the “but” of the last paragraph of first quoted post.

Does he mean he read DP later or he still has it at scum there?

I dont wanna be played by “missunderstanding” so I wanna be sure.


He said he thought I was mafia for a good while.

and then says he doesn't understand why I had any votes day one.

Pretty clear to me why that doesn't mesh CC.


Ok, I need to check the times and see the flow of the thread but that was actually a good find, it would make sense with “mafia was mia”
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 15 2023 11:51 GMT
#2408
On June 15 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
Slightly offtopic but DP going from archon to arbiter at this timing is lol


Yeah I noticed that too.


I‘m lowkey disappointed you didn‘t call me mafia back there.
Once in a lifetime opportunity to lead you astray after I woke up feeling mischievous enough to dare writing that crock of nonsense.

That was the last you‘ve seen of me trolling this game.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 11:53 GMT
#2409
It feels so weird to be working with DP
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 15 2023 11:54 GMT
#2410
On June 15 2023 20:53 CopCake wrote:
It feels so weird to be working with DP


If by weird you mean terrifying I agree. I could feel his projection of the reaction from here.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 11:55 GMT
#2411
The first bit CC, where you take issue with the "but".

We'll ask Marv just in case, but I don't see how it can possibly be a misunderstanding. Assuming there is no misunderstanding, is this damning?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 15 2023 11:58 GMT
#2412
On June 15 2023 20:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 20:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 20:40 Vivax wrote:
Slightly offtopic but DP going from archon to arbiter at this timing is lol


Yeah I noticed that too.


I‘m lowkey disappointed you didn‘t call me mafia back there.
Once in a lifetime opportunity to lead you astray after I woke up feeling mischievous enough to dare writing that crock of nonsense.

That was the last you‘ve seen of me trolling this game.


Unlucky timing I guess. I needed to give others space to do something and I guess it worked. In my mind we built a circle and caught a mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 15 2023 12:00 GMT
#2413
Note to self: Don‘t put suspicious rings on in front of Gandalf
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:01 GMT
#2414
On June 15 2023 06:26 CopCake wrote:
TTT/Mz/(marv/vivax)????


-
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:09 GMT
#2415
Worlds I am living:

If Marv is mafia:

1.- Is he part of a mia (absent) group?
2.- Is he the lesser mafia (goon) and is being sacrificed?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
June 15 2023 12:12 GMT
#2416
Offtopic but required by the situation I think:

+ Show Spoiler +
On another note, the bursts are a little souvenir from what happened in December would be my guess.
Maybe with a bit of an hereditary component that I‘m not sure is included in the DSM already.

I just think it‘s weird that I seem to have right hemispherical proprioception of the brain at times and that‘s also where the nutso in me comes from I‘d wager. Massive but indiscriminatory imagination and a recurring spot for isolated headaches.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 15 2023 12:14 GMT
#2417
On June 15 2023 21:12 Vivax wrote:
Offtopic but required by the situation I think:

+ Show Spoiler +
On another note, the bursts are a little souvenir from what happened in December would be my guess.
Maybe with a bit of an hereditary component that I‘m not sure is included in the DSM already.

I just think it‘s weird that I seem to have right hemispherical proprioception of the brain at times and that‘s also where the nutso in me comes from I‘d wager. Massive but indiscriminatory imagination and a recurring spot for isolated headaches.


You seem like you would be an interesting guy to meet in person I'd wager. (in a good way)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 15 2023 12:14 GMT
#2418
I can feel rayn yelling at me via obvsq even if we are not in the same place
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 15 2023 12:16 GMT
#2419
Copcake do you think Marv is mafia or not? because I'm still not clear on you position on it. Your vote is on TTT.

So you aren't really working with me, you know.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 12:19 GMT
#2420
+ Show Spoiler +
Wait vivax you get proprioception of the brain? Is that even possible? The brain has no sensory receptors in it. Anything you feel about the brain is definitely not the brain. And you say it's the right hemisphere? Because that's where you experience it or are you guessing based on expectations of hemispheric lateralisation of function?
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