EPT1.) If LS is mafia marv is also mafia.
2.) TTT will be night killed the next night and I'm not confident in this town I will be able to get marv lynched at that point.
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DarthPunk
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1.) If LS is mafia marv is also mafia. 2.) TTT will be night killed the next night and I'm not confident in this town I will be able to get marv lynched at that point. | ||
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LightningStrike
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TankTopTiger
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TankTopTiger
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On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote: Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now! Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015. VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him. dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd? Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then. Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her. DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb?His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess. Marv rolls over as scum. On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote: And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Marv rolls over as scum. On May 30 2023 03:17 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and Marv gave up  I don't know how to feel about that to be honest. Also dmb ninja voted Marv too. HmmmOh gee, Marv rolled over. On May 30 2023 04:20 LightningStrike wrote: This appeal to emotion is just to strong for me. If he is mafia he wouldn't of appealed to me this hard over others. ## Vote: DarthPunk | ||
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TankTopTiger
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LightningStrike
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On May 30 2023 12:53 TankTopTiger wrote: Does the game say anything more than Marv once rolled over D1 as scum? No but he does generally roll over as mafia Day 1 here are some of the games for reference: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/462291-showdown-mafia?user=marvellosity https://tl.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=marvellosity https://tl.net/forum/mafia/475211-pyp-pick-your-protoss-mini-mafia?user=marvellosity https://tl.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?user=marvellosity | ||
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TankTopTiger
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Can I get other people weighing in here because I'm not reading 5 other games. You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"? | ||
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LightningStrike
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On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote: You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"? Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia. | ||
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TankTopTiger
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Why would he fold under non-existent pressure, and more importantly, why would you think he would? | ||
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TankTopTiger
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Not once but twice since day 1 you have said you were willing to consider Marv as scum. On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote: If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him. On May 29 2023 10:44 LightningStrike wrote: I making this assumption in which you also do flip town along with Chez and Slam just for this: Team would be Marv and TTT by PoE mostly because I think Rayn is town because he didn't trappy play Day 1 like he did in XXX along with how he been posting and playing seems like normal town Rayn. dmb I don't see how she could ever be mafia with VE given what I posted about it earlier. I know my own alignment as town and by PoE it would be them in that case. If your read was "if Marv folds D1 scum, else: town". Why would you twice say you would be willing to consider Marv as mafia after D1. Furthermore, why would you only say this up until the point he folds, then refuse to vote for him? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 30 2023 13:21 TankTopTiger wrote: Okay but he's not try-harding. He didn't get lynched D1 because he had Koshi and Rayn handing grapes up to him as he presided over the peasants from within his palanquin. Why would he ever have folded in your mind if the two strongest, most townest players were saying "Marv is vetted" and "MZ's case on Marv is REALLY bad", both things that these skilled confirmed town players later took back. Why would he fold under non-existent pressure, and more importantly, why would you think he would? Marv really doesn't like being pressured just like me hence why he falls over as mafia (he was pressured by Darth) hell in the town game i linked he was pressured enough for him to just give up as town despite having a solid Day 1 with how limited his time was. But overall he did tryhard a bit (at least from way of thinking of tryhard where he did post questions and giving his opinions out there for others and engaging with others) | ||
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LightningStrike
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On May 30 2023 13:30 TankTopTiger wrote: But here's the clincher LS, you already admitted this is not your read. Not once but twice since day 1 you have said you were willing to consider Marv as scum. If your read was "if Marv folds D1 scum, else: town". Why would you twice say you would be willing to consider Marv as mafia after D1. Furthermore, why would you only say this up until the point he folds, then refuse to vote for him? Ok the first one Darth had asked me for a team if Chez and Slam are town (Because I had Slam and Chez null at the time.) and only had Marv because if you looked at what I posted earlier on my reads and stuff i had posted later: dmb being town because of her stuff with VE and VE with her I couldn't imagine as a scenrio where mafia dmb would do that stuff with him I had you as town along with Rayn and so I had in PoE and gotten Marv and Darth. The second one i took into consideration if Darth was town Marv would of had to been Mafia with you for the same reasons for the most part being it was PoE for you being mafia. Today: He is using appeal to emotion towards me trying to have me lynch Darth with him to save him which convinced me to vote Darth because no one ever asks me to vote for someone using Appeal to Emotion and he been much nicer to me than Darth. | ||
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LightningStrike
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Alakaslam
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On May 30 2023 11:37 DarthPunk wrote: Ask yourself this? Do you really think mafia dp could outpost town marvellosity by 7 pages on day 3, town Marv could find exactly zero mafia and then the only thing that town Marv would have found in 25 pages of scum dp is that I had too many town reads and I was too fast to change my mind based on evidence and vote for mafia? There is nothing else in 25 pages if I am mafia. Bearing in mind I haven’t played the game in 7 years. Yes of course you can. Was VE's filter small? Power scum is a thing. This is probably the strongest part of your case Well, I don't like that you point to filter length to clear yourself. But yeah, Rayn being better than marv usually means Marv scum | ||
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Alakaslam
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On May 30 2023 12:04 TankTopTiger wrote: @LightningStrike Waaay too early in the game, you gave Marv a town read for not folding to DP's D1 pressure. You are aware of Marv's "fold as scum" meta. But right now, Marv has folded, and your vote is on DP. Explain. Where is Morgan Freeman meming when I need him? "He's right you know" | ||
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