TL Endures Mafia - Page 127

On May 29 2023 11:58 Chezinu wrote:



Psh.. I didn't start programing until about 10 years ago... oh, it's been longer than I thought.

On May 29 2023 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
My final thoughts

So, as I've already talked about, what rayn started doing towards me just demoralised me massively, and my last vote on DP I did genuinely intend to be my last post of the game. But I still want town to win, so these are my thoughts that you can take with you into day 4. After you lynch me you will need to lynch correctly twice in a row or mafia wins. Some stuff I am pretty sure about, some I'm not.

die_meatbaby is town. Or at least if she is not town, the game is massively invalid in my eyes due to the ridiculous amount of setup nonsense that went on. My other supporting evidence is VE's post regarding this below.



VE is plenty good at faking emotion and all that sort of stuff as mafia. But this is not fake - this is a mafia-VE frustrated that the antics around that playerslot have essentially confirmed DMB as town. Do not lynch her, ever.

Alakaslam I also think is town. Something that rayn pointed out is that MZ's goodbye post was actually kind of weak, so why did people believe it? One theory is that mafia know it's true and so have some sort of reaction to it. This is possible. But why would a mafia-Slam, knowing that both lynches on D1 are town, even need to engage with it? Why does a mafia-Slam, who is apparently hard-town reading marv (yes I've confirmed towned myself just to be gratuitous) paint a massive target on his back for going against his townreads and voting Vivax, when he could have just stayed on MZ no questions asked? It doesn't make much sense to me.

After I wrote this I went back to read rayn's post, as I remembered he said Slam was town and I couldn't remember why. Turns out it's exactly the same reason, so if we've both come to that conclusion it's a fair stab that Slam is town.

Chezinu - I have a hunch this guy is town, don't wanna talk about it really.

TankTopTiger



Frankly I think these 2 posts are a bit outrageous to make if you are mafia (and tbh probably shouldn't be asking them in the thread if you're town). So for this reason alone he should be town.
When I think about his gameplay it's basically a tunnel on me - well, fine. There's 2 options here:
1. him and DP are working completely in tandem as a mafia pair. Sounds crazy but not impossible.
2. DP has pocketed TTT and DP is riding off TTT's fervour. This is what I think is most likely.

LightningStrike
I really have nothing further to add than what rayn said, so I'm just gonna quote it.

Just as an aside, if you are town and voting me you are ignoring the bolded bit. Although I would also tell you to ignore it, so I'm not actually trying to make much of a point here

DarthPunk
He is always mafia. I've talked about why before, but for the sake of completeness, I will summarise it here again. Firstly, he too easily gave out townreads for quite a portion of the game. This is a mistake I desperately have to try not to fall into every time I play scum, and I don't always succeed. The weird early hard townread of die_meatbaby, when the rest of the townies were a lot more cautious, or actively calling dmb mafia (e.g. Koshi). The point (night 1 I think? I forget slightly) where he posted that he simply had "too many townreads" at a point I had 2 good townreads (Koshi and rayn). This is not a natural way for a townie to be thinking about the game, townies are a paranoid people. Readers, if you are town, ask yourself if you ever had too many townreads in this game.
Secondly, the turnaround on VE. DP made a really long post with about 20 quotes from VE and came to the conclusion that VE was most likely town. rayn makes a comment about VE's emotion (or lack of) and DP, after thinking so hard about VE's alignment, just flops the other way. Readers, if you are town - how easy is it for you to change your mind when you have just spent a lot of time thinking about someone's alignment?
Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW".

None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire

I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post.