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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 29 2023 02:48 GMT
#2501
On May 29 2023 11:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:08 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:04 TankTopTiger wrote:
Am i wrong in thinking that connecto-cases this early tend to be bad?

Like, we only have VE, who played knowing there was a good chance he goes down early. He leaned into getting lynched. Trying to name the entire team before we unburrow a non-throwaway mafia seems like putting the cart before the horse.

What does PoE mean again?


What are you referring to hear?


I'm referring to talking about having a whole lineup of the scum team. You said Marv/MB/VE and LS said me/Marv/VE. To me this feels out of sequence, we should wait until we get a kill on a mafia who isn't playing around being caught before we try to dream up the entire scum team. Otherwise we're A) building cases on quicksand and B) choreographing our play so that scum knows who to fuck with.

Dude

I like this guy

Thank you DP
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 29 2023 02:50 GMT
#2502
On May 29 2023 11:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him.

Why?

I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum

Like the team would then just let him live?

Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good"

Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Yes I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then?

They were busy killing Koshi,

But this is a decent point in another way. Who did Koshi sus?

That could hold good info on finding the remaining scum. Because Rayn is a strong player (imo stronger than Koshi) and so is marv; why Koshi first? Unless it was a total snipe?

Actually what the hell I need to read it myself.

These blues dying early makes me wonder if some serious vet power is the scum.

Maybe not LS after all if this yields something.



Your process here (who did koshi sus?) is exactly what I predicted with my outline of why koshi died. Just sayin'.

On May 29 2023 11:33 TankTopTiger wrote:
Regarding Rayn being NKed night 1:
Kosh was mad AF and throwing fingers everywhere. Killing him creates opportunities for scum to martyr him for any one of his reads. Keep in mind, mafia could not have predicted that Koshi would vig MZ.

So as a mafia on day 1, I would be thinking that "if I kill Koshi, I get rid of a good player, I get casus belli for literally anyone on vivax's wagon AND on MZ. Furthermore if I'm Marv and I'm scum, I have also created a safe pocket for myself on the train that didn't lynch the doctor.

If I'm scuMarv, there is no way I NK Rayn, who is just my high-level bodyguard at this point, over Koshi who achieves everything I could ever want in an NK.

LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 29 2023 02:51 GMT
#2503
On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.

If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you.

Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 29 2023 02:53 GMT
#2504
On May 29 2023 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.

If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you.

Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though.


Generally it feels worse when you are mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 02:53 GMT
#2505
I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch.

Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 29 2023 02:53 GMT
#2506
On May 29 2023 11:33 TankTopTiger wrote:
Regarding Rayn being NKed night 1:
Kosh was mad AF and throwing fingers everywhere. Killing him creates opportunities for scum to martyr him for any one of his reads. Keep in mind, mafia could not have predicted that Koshi would vig MZ.

So as a mafia on day 1, I would be thinking that "if I kill Koshi, I get rid of a good player, I get casus belli for literally anyone on vivax's wagon AND on MZ. Furthermore if I'm Marv and I'm scum, I have also created a safe pocket for myself on the train that didn't lynch the doctor.

If I'm scuMarv, there is no way I NK Rayn, who is just my high-level bodyguard at this point, over Koshi who achieves everything I could ever want in an NK.

Will verify but this makes me trust you.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 29 2023 02:55 GMT
#2507
On May 29 2023 11:50 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him.

Why?

I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum

Like the team would then just let him live?

Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good"

Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Yes I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then?

They were busy killing Koshi,

But this is a decent point in another way. Who did Koshi sus?

That could hold good info on finding the remaining scum. Because Rayn is a strong player (imo stronger than Koshi) and so is marv; why Koshi first? Unless it was a total snipe?

Actually what the hell I need to read it myself.

These blues dying early makes me wonder if some serious vet power is the scum.

Maybe not LS after all if this yields something.



Your process here (who did koshi sus?) is exactly what I predicted with my outline of why koshi died. Just sayin'.

Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:33 TankTopTiger wrote:
Regarding Rayn being NKed night 1:
Kosh was mad AF and throwing fingers everywhere. Killing him creates opportunities for scum to martyr him for any one of his reads. Keep in mind, mafia could not have predicted that Koshi would vig MZ.

So as a mafia on day 1, I would be thinking that "if I kill Koshi, I get rid of a good player, I get casus belli for literally anyone on vivax's wagon AND on MZ. Furthermore if I'm Marv and I'm scum, I have also created a safe pocket for myself on the train that didn't lynch the doctor.

If I'm scuMarv, there is no way I NK Rayn, who is just my high-level bodyguard at this point, over Koshi who achieves everything I could ever want in an NK.


Heheheh

Fwiw I phone post always. To get around my fat thumbs, I tend to press a double back button after each thought I put down when catching up

You might see how this practice of mine led to

This

Hehehhehe
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 29 2023 02:56 GMT
#2508
On May 29 2023 11:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.

If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you.

Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though.


Generally it feels worse when you are mafia.

Dude I hate being under pressure as either alignment even more so as town because I still get lynched for stupid shit in games. Hell I even ragequit once as town Day 1 so I could get lynched by town Holyflare to spite him and the town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 29 2023 02:56 GMT
#2509
On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote:
I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch.

Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.


More importantly how do you read yourself?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 29 2023 02:57 GMT
#2510
On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote:
I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch.

Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.


Ok you so brown

Hijole Chez I need confidence right now not more suspicion

SEE ONCE MORE WITH THE EYES!

REAWAKEN THE CHUPAZI THAT WAS BEFORE IT WAS!

oh wait that is my stuff.

but I can't legit do your way without sounding ... idk lame

Trucker trying to be like programmer usually fails from lack of knowledge.
Hopefully that doesn't destroy me!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 02:57 GMT
#2511
Let's go Lightning, let's go!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 29 2023 02:58 GMT
#2512
On May 29 2023 11:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.

If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you.

Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though.


Generally it feels worse when you are mafia.

Dude I hate being under pressure as either alignment even more so as town because I still get lynched for stupid shit in games. Hell I even ragequit once as town Day 1 so I could get lynched by town Holyflare to spite him and the town.

Game for reference: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 02:58 GMT
#2513
On May 29 2023 11:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote:
I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch.

Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn.


Ok you so brown

Hijole Chez I need confidence right now not more suspicion

SEE ONCE MORE WITH THE EYES!

REAWAKEN THE CHUPAZI THAT WAS BEFORE IT WAS!

oh wait that is my stuff.

but I can't legit do your way without sounding ... idk lame

Trucker trying to be like programmer usually fails from lack of knowledge.
Hopefully that doesn't destroy me!



Psh.. I didn't start programing until about 10 years ago... oh, it's been longer than I thought.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 02:59 GMT
#2514
Lightning stop trying to get my seal. You won't get it unless there is a chance I'll get lynch greater than 95%.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 29 2023 03:02 GMT
#2515
On May 29 2023 11:59 Chezinu wrote:
Lightning stop trying to get my seal. You won't get it unless there is a chance I'll get lynch greater than 95%.

Alrighty! To change the topic a bit how you reading Slam at the moment?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 03:02 GMT
#2516
On May 25 2023 04:43 marvellosity wrote:
Chez would be a massively disappointing lynch if he’s town. Then we’re just in the same position day 2 without Chez. Obvs we can be lucky and he flips mafia but meh.

Is MZ really such a bad lynch? At least everyone gets the satisfaction of shouting at me if I’m wrong, that’s good fun right?

marvellosity,

On September 06 2012 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:10 Chezinu wrote:
Oh and I was telling the truth about my tactics. As you can see, MAFIA NEVER DEFENDS ME!!! Even this game tali and marv went against me at some point.


you'll never believe me if i defend you in future


Do I believe?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 03:04 GMT
#2517
On May 25 2023 06:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:08 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh


Ok I am following daddy marv.
I am too lost and I don't feel good anymore about lynching mebaby.

I know I am very late here, but how do you feel about VE atm?

I don't know. honestly.

I quckly read MZ again and his opposition to chez lynch and aiming for LS
And then his mebaby is a total crapshoot comment made me say fuck it. I follow marv.

Cause Chez is awesome!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
May 29 2023 03:05 GMT
#2518
Chezinu I hope you're coming up with some good cases while larping around.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 03:05 GMT
#2519
On May 27 2023 05:26 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 04:52 marvellosity wrote:
I’ve asked this in a million games, but I may as well ask you VE. I struggle with players like Chez, is there anything that can be done to determine alignment? I can just never find common ground where i can start to understand…

There are. But I use it for emergencies.

You ask like LS.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
May 29 2023 03:06 GMT
#2520
On May 29 2023 12:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
Chezinu I hope you're coming up with some good cases while larping around.

We will see, style before victory!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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