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On May 29 2023 10:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:04 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:52 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:22 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
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I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect. I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which @Chez how do you read yourself? I viewed chez's vote at the time as caring about the result of the lynch, which, on a town vs town wagon, doesn't really make sense for scum CHEZ. He said RNG'd to Vivax via someone posting on an even number post which i think he based it off of? Mafia motivation would be just no care because we know now both wagons are town and he could just lynch anyone at that point. Didn't you just say that trolling is part of the reason you read chez as town? and then he was trolling in that post and you think he is scummy for that. I actually don't think that post was RNG I think it was saying he wasn't sure who to vote for and asking who he should lynch. Slam was straight on it and then made sure that the post he made correlated to the Vivax wagon, Its part of why I read them both as town basically. The RNG stuff felt more serious to me at the time given everything but it could of been trolling? Idk though maybe i misread it that entire thing. Will recheck this stuff in a bit because I getting a headache and need to take medicine. Im really sorry if you are town and this is all legit, but I mean, you literally just complained about people not talking to you in the thread, and then when I do, you cant talk about it or go into it? Come on bro. Didn't have to do the game it's a sinus headache and I just checked after getting some medicine. It was RNG'd here it is: On May 25 2023 10:44 Chezinu wrote:
If the next post starts with an odd character of the alphabet, I vote MZ. If even Vivax.
I could change my mind. This felt serious in the bold unless you think he was trolling that entire post? It felt flippant to me more than anything
I can see that from your perspective maybe I did read to much into it.
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On May 29 2023 10:01 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 09:49 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:25 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Why do you think I am mafia, you seem very sure about this, to the point of not moving your vote on to mafia from me. So you must have a really strong reason, lets see it. Stuff from what I posted earlier in my filter (My case on you) plus seeing VE flipped red the mindmeld could be faked. In addition right now I feel like your posting to post towards me? So I am mafia for attacking you? Is there anything else that you have considered in my 22 pages of filter? Not exactly for attacking me but the manor of you attacking me. Felt like you went for an easy target in me (I am the most lynchable person in TL Mafia ever). Plus remember when you asked me about why I thought Koshi was killed? I had already had answered it and felt scummy how you did answer that post.
Why do you think you are an easy target and the most lynchable person ever,. if that were the case don't you think you would have got more than 1 vote yesterday?
In fact most people have not been interested in pursuing you as a lynch all game, that basically demonstrates to me you are not the most lynchable person in TL mafia ever.
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On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia?
To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town.
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On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town.
OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical?
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On May 29 2023 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:49 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:25 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Why do you think I am mafia, you seem very sure about this, to the point of not moving your vote on to mafia from me. So you must have a really strong reason, lets see it. Stuff from what I posted earlier in my filter (My case on you) plus seeing VE flipped red the mindmeld could be faked. In addition right now I feel like your posting to post towards me? So I am mafia for attacking you? Is there anything else that you have considered in my 22 pages of filter? Not exactly for attacking me but the manor of you attacking me. Felt like you went for an easy target in me (I am the most lynchable person in TL Mafia ever). Plus remember when you asked me about why I thought Koshi was killed? I had already had answered it and felt scummy how you did answer that post. Why do you think you are an easy target and the most lynchable person ever,. if that were the case don't you think you would have got more than 1 vote yesterday? In fact most people have not been interested in pursuing you as a lynch all game, that basically demonstrates to me you are not the most lynchable person in TL mafia ever.
Because I get lynched a lot as town mostly on Day 1 and Day 2 because people find my playstyle as town as scummy which is why I am considered one of the most lynchable people in TL Mafia. I will be honest though I am surprised I wasn't even lynched as well as not being modkilled(which I did post about the modkilled part) because I was absent for so long.
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On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical?
If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him.
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Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives.
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On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical? If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him.
You think marv and I could be mafia together?
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On May 29 2023 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives.
The problem is, I read slam and Chez both as town, I know I am town, so in a world in which you are town, I want to kind of see if I can agree with any of your thought processes or reads, and see if we can read the game in a way that makes sense together.
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I've been sleeping all day, i just got up for a minute to write this before eon.
I think it's fairly certain TTT is town. Like before meapak flipped and after the flip for some time i thought the way he approached the game from mafia perspective, but at some point his his view changes to that VE is easily most likely to be mafia, and at that point there is no real pressure yet on VE. It doesn't make any sense for mafia to invent a story where marv is pushing a lynch on town meapak just to change his focus completely to his scumbuddy AFTER he has PROOF that his original assessment could be right (meapak flip).
I also think Slam and Chezinu are town. Now that we know meapak has flipped town, there is pretty much no real reason for slam to praise marv all D1 then vote on Vivax instead of Meapak. Like it's a contradiction he would notice if he was mafia, there is no harm voting Meapak over Vivax as both are town, it just doesn't make much sense to me as mafia. Chezinu has been quite on point on his suspects, i really liked his suspects list D2, and i think VE voting for Chezinu is a point on his favor as well. Like i think VE could vote for his scumbuddy in a situation like that, but i don't think that's the case here. He had other options as well, and it really make it look worse for VE rather than make a good play by distancing.
mebaby is hard to crack but after all i see her townie. VE could technically hard-clear her, but i still doubt in case they were both mafia. Maybe 75% chance that alone makes her town. Another thing is that afer inventing the story on ray + Vivax being mafia, mebaby had all the reasons as mafia to go after me, and while noone would believe her most likely, noone would also blame her for it most likely. Instead of doing that, she invents ANOTHER story of how Vivax got lynched, throws in her scumbuddy VE, votes for him, and says VE is 10000% mafia. I don't buy it she does that as mafia.
So while i know i could be wrong here somewhere, that's still what i think at the moment. And that leaves me with LS / DP / marv.
LS looks definitely worst in the bunch. Disconnected with the game, and while i have nothing really that says "this guy is definitely scum", i have also nothing that says this guy is definitely town. Everyone else looks just more town, that's it. I think you should always lynch LS the next day, it's just the most likely correct answer by poe and his disconnect with the game. Low volume poster or not, his posts still feel like no intention to solve.
DP and marv.. Ugh... Like every time i am in the thread with marv we're seeing things pretty similarly. That's usually town tell. I consider myself a decent player and if another decent player agrees with me then we're usually doing right things, and even if he is mafia we're still doing right things. That is early on. Lately there have been things that bug me. All the questions i asked yesterday i think are worth asking. I am not completely sure they make him look mafia but they are still worth asking. Maybe the biggest thing is i don't get how he can feel so strongly about DP being mafia, even before VE flip. It doesn't make sense to me, nor does the AFTER flip reaction when i have just kinda lead a lynch on mafia VE:
On May 28 2023 14:19 marvellosity wrote:
Great result with VE.
If rayn is thinking about pushing me now maybe i am wrong about DP and I have been mega duped by rayn. Maybe that’s why Koshi died N1.
Because I look at the number of posts rayn hard-reads me as town and now this? I don’t understand it.
Like.... rayn leads a lynch on mafia VE, DP is big suspect for marv, suddenly after flip i am mafia just because i have doubts about him as i clearly can't figure out all mafia as Onegu also flips. It's just... idk, maybe he is just a bit butthurt i am calling him mafia, i really don't know because it doesn't look natural. Another thing is i think DP was way more natural to flip his read on VE. To me that felt like "i thought he was town but shiiiitt.. this is good you nailed it dude!", which is really natural when i read an ACTUAL good case.
I also know marv has had doubts on VE a long time, but never really acted on them. I don't think there was a lot of time left when i made my case on VE, i DO have a feeling marv SHOULD see those things before, and acted on them. Hell he wrote good stuff like "VE lynches Vivax because D1 is the only day when he can lynch town Vivax", really good shit. But not realising VE is mafia earlier when all the evidence is there? Weird.
I think DP has looked more natural in his read progression. If LS is mafia, i don't know why DP has to have him as soft buss all game? Like DP can bus for sure, but i don't know what's it worth? If LS is town why wasn't LS up for lynch by mafia DP on D2? With LS wagon distraction there it could be possible, even LIKELY that there is a town lynch instead of VE lynch, and noone could even blame DP for that because he has been playing towards it whole game. Hell even if LS is mafia lynching inactive mafia member in team instead of hyper active VE is a win in comparison to situation now.
I don't know. PoE says LS is mafia and after that occam's razor says one of marv or DP is mafia. Don't get me wrong, just if i analyse both of them individually they look town, but there HAS TO BE third mafia in this game. Gun to head i would say marv over DP, but i am really not sure.
That's the vomit in case i die.
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On May 29 2023 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives. The problem is, I read slam and Chez both as town, I know I am town, so in a world in which you are town, I want to kind of see if I can agree with any of your thought processes or reads, and see if we can read the game in a way that makes sense together.
I making this assumption in which you also do flip town along with Chez and Slam just for this: Team would be Marv and TTT by PoE mostly because I think Rayn is town because he didn't trappy play Day 1 like he did in XXX along with how he been posting and playing seems like normal town Rayn. dmb I don't see how she could ever be mafia with VE given what I posted about it earlier. I know my own alignment as town and by PoE it would be them in that case.
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On May 29 2023 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical? If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him. You think marv and I could be mafia together?
Can be mafia together but mostly out independent of each other mind you when I made that post.
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DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team?
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On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team?
Yep. Marv and DMB.
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On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team? Yep. Marv and DMB.
Reason for DMB?
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You guys really need to discuss more. Last day was mostly me and TTT and a little bit of DP discussing shit. Can't find mafia if people don't force other people to discuss stuff.
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On May 29 2023 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You guys really need to discuss more. Last day was mostly me and TTT and a little bit of DP discussing shit. Can't find mafia if people don't force other people to discuss stuff.
I have a 22 page filter, im trying bro.
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Day 3raynpelikoneet the Vanilla Town has been killed.
Day 3 begins. The day ends on Wednesday, May 31 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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gg gl everyone it was nice to play with you all 
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Am i wrong in thinking that connecto-cases this early tend to be bad?
Like, we only have VE, who played knowing there was a good chance he goes down early. He leaned into getting lynched. Trying to name the entire team before we unburrow a non-throwaway mafia seems like putting the cart before the horse.
What does PoE mean again?
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