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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 13 2022 18:07 GMT
#3036
No lynch loses the game 100% for the town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 13 2022 18:09 GMT
#3037
Are you going to actually vote or not HF?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 13 2022 18:13 GMT
#3038
Well i am off to work, let's see tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2022 04:38 GMT
#3074
On September 14 2022 08:36 Holyflare wrote:
##vote no lynch

wow, so you actually effectively defeated the only possible way to get Chezinu and Vivax to actually play mafia this game. Like literally the only way to get Chezinu to play was to vote for him and depending on what he says either Vivax has to play and try save him or continue absence and just be mafia, or Chezinu just outs himself. Well done. Like you could have even tried!!!

Even in the small span of time look what Chezinu vomited in thread:
On September 14 2022 08:35 Chezinu wrote:
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On September 14 2022 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
On September 14 2022 07:56 Chezinu wrote:
I don't get the whole, I'm going to lynch the confirmed town when we can get more information by no lynching for a day cause policy.


You want to no lynch so a confirmed town dies. What's the difference?

I'm in between two people. Hoping mafia would kill one.

If he genuinely thinks HF is mafia he is insane.
If he genuinely thinks someone else than HF is going to die he is insane.
This doesn't even make any sense at all for a townie to say this.

ONLY mafia benefits from having one less townie alive to decide the final vote, Chezinu is being voted here. Vivax is probably just trolling and doesn't give a shit about the game at all, but for Chezinu to survive he would have to make Vivax mad and try to lynch him (since voting for me effectively does nothing).

Instead of looking for who is town and who is mafia, trying to figure out something, he avoids conflict and just stays peacefully in his brown red corner. Then this:

On September 14 2022 08:59 Chezinu wrote:
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On September 12 2022 23:37 Holyflare wrote:
On September 12 2022 23:33 Chezinu wrote:
Hey Vivax, can you explain how HF is town, cause you've been the only one clear this game in summarizing what happened with night actions concisely.


Copcake flipped vig. Vig shot didn't go off the entire game.

You make a judgement call whether:

1) Mafia held their vig shot for no reason.

2) I am mafia and got roleblocked n1/n2 and the kill didn't go off on one of those nights

3) Mafia shot me and I got saved

Given I was very likely to be protected (and indicated as such at both nights) it should be likely to you (and most people) that I wouldn't want to carry a mafia shot in fear of it getting randomly blocked by a protection role.


So you are saying matthew didn't save you from a hit but stop you from killing? And that is why rayn is town and not Mafia RB?

What is this bullshit even? I am refusing to believe Chezinu is incapable of understanding what that post says.
Then how do you explain Rayn's frustration

This is as much mafia tell than saying Chezinu is mafia because one of the first 4 letters of his account is "e", just like Rels and Cake.
...and obsession with Mafia RB?

I have not been obsessed with mafia rb, i wonder what thread he is reading.
Would Mafia have 2 special roles against town's two blues?

Most likely yes, what does this even matter?
Is Vivax playing Chezinu's style to stay alive?

Doesn't matter anymore, game's over already and mafia wins.

Only questions, stupid questions. Nothing that progresses any sort of reasonable thought process anywhere.
Not even under pressure can Chezinu make a legitmate argument on anything at all and Chezinu is not stupid. He is just mafia.

So holyflare quit and Vivax isn't giving a shit about this game so i guess you guys can keep chatting about starcraft or whatever you want for the rest of the game, i will have other stuff to do on weekend so unless vivax wants to play this day phase i'm just gonna hand the win for mafia and self-vote the next day. Not gonna use a single minute of my time in this game after this phase if this is how people want to play a game of mafia.

well played Koshi, MZ and Mattchew, epic two saves and still we managed to lose. Shame on you HF for avoiding responsibility of making people play when you 100% could achieve that. Shame on Vivax for not playing. gg mafia.


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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2022 05:01 GMT
#3076
It doesn't change anything since all you guys do is talk shit for two days.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2022 05:26 GMT
#3079
Last time i say this:

Basically the only way HF is mafia is if Cake has not used her shot.
And 99 times out of 100 HF makes mafia vigilante shoot N1 because that's the phase for mafia when the town has least information -> the shot is most likely to go through.

HF suspected both Rels and Cake at least N1 if not D1. The other option would be that Mattchew jailed HF who was delivering the night kill. Why does HF deliver the night kill when he is playing pro-town-looking-really-townie game? Hell, even if he doesn't look town he is STILL always a possible, even likely doc/jk protection target. HF will most likely never send a night kill when there is vanilla mafia Rels alive.

Like it's just very simple, he is just easily the most likely townie out of us four for anyone who doesn't know other people's alignments...
And Chez voted off wagon with me when everyone was on cop. So why do you believe it‘s that clear cut who the last one is if you are town?

My read has nothing to do with that. Although that is the dumbest thing a townie has done in this game, not vote for red checked person. And one of you is definitely town so lol.

At the very least HF should tinfoil you and the other way around

Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2022 05:31 GMT
#3080
Like i have tinfoiled HF various points of the game. When he downgraded me having a good Koshi read. When he called he was blocked by mattchew before knowing for sure mattchew was jk.

But i don't tinfoil people when it's like 99,99999% sure they are town. Now i don't know how sure HF is about me being town but idgaf because i am sure he is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2022 05:39 GMT
#3081
There is also this thing where Chezinu calls red/blue sickness and i am certain he said he thought i am blue at some point before the claims so it makes perfect sense for him to shoot me N3 and not even lie about his read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 14 2022 06:00 GMT
#3082
On September 14 2022 14:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this thing where Chezinu calls red/blue sickness and i am certain he said he thought i am blue at some point before the claims so it makes perfect sense for him to shoot me N3 and not even lie about his read.

nah he didn't actually say that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 16 2022 19:13 GMT
#3094
##vote raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2022 01:46 GMT
#3136
On September 19 2022 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Thanks rayn for counteracting the obvious at the end

I quit the game 4 days before the "end".
I know what would have been smart, but idgaf.
You can have your island. "good job"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-22 23:26:37
September 22 2022 23:21 GMT
#3139
On September 22 2022 00:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Town played like ass at the end, this frustrates him.

No, people didn't play at all at the end, so i couldn't care less how the game ends. What's the point of a win or loss if noone plays and just randomly decides the result?
+ Show Spoiler +
4:28 AM]raynpelikoneet!: sorry for the game, i didnt have time and didnt want to care anymore after half past the day before the last one
[4:29 AM]Rels: haha of course. TBH last day was pretty deplorable. 2/3 of the town didn't want to play ...
[4:29 AM]Rels: it was still fun 🙂 even though I played pretty badly haha
[4:29 AM]raynpelikoneet!: my original plan was to shoot either vivax or chezinu last night and vote for the other guy and bank on HF not appearing and win but what good it is to win a game like that if it comes to that?
[....]
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: well, i was talking about that if i shoot lets say chezinu, and vote vivax at the start of last day before he votes, and HF does not appear all day (as he said), we always win
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i didnt want thaty
[4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: it's not a way to win
4:31 AM]raynpelikoneet!: nor do i want to have anything to do with TL mafia anymore if i was in a game that was decided by people NOT playing the whole game at all
[4:33 AM]Rels: yeah
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i genuinely put all my time aside work into the game just to have a final day of no show???
[4:34 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i guess they are even proud of winning or some shit? 😄
[4:35 AM]raynpelikoneet!: i mean vivax and chezinu. Koshi f.ex. played quite well, damn that was top notch D1
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 22 2022 23:48 GMT
#3141
On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.

Hey i will message you on discord in a couple of weeks, we will most likely have a flight to US on date X on December and it seems like we will have a stopover for like 10 hours in London, let's have lunch or beer or smth?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 23 2022 01:29 GMT
#3144
On September 23 2022 09:13 Vivax wrote:
What's the issue with using flipped mafia's spew to determine alignments?

Because it has nothing to do with the player in question has said.
Mafia can say anything about anyone.
If someone decided you are mafia because of something a flipped mafia has said, would it be fair? There is no way for you to defend against the accusation, regardless of your alignment, and if people think like this smart mafia will fuck you over in a game just for nothing.

You can do that, and continue doing that. I mean using someone else's sayings as evidence for someone else being mafia. It's just not reasonable, because it doesn't have anything to do what the person in question has done. Sure you get it right sometimes, but most of the times you don't. And anyways, regardless of if you get it right or wrong on me, i will not participate, then you can win or lose on your own time for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 23 2022 01:29 GMT
#3145
On September 23 2022 10:22 Grackaroni wrote:

I also made a huge mistake to allow both no shoot and no lynch, which really dragged out the game and ruined activity. I definitely won't do that again.

You had nothing to do with the activity and you should not apologize for that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 23 2022 01:41 GMT
#3146
Like Vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.

I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.

Chez lol. I've never been able to read him.


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On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Welcome back to the game mate
What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning?
What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH?



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On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:
On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum

me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think.
Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol


No it‘s all whining
Make a single point for Tube being town instead?

Tube is scum
Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at


combined with

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On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p





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On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.

But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?

I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.

I also wonder why chezinu voted me.


And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J.


???? self aware partner vote

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On September 01 2022 15:14 CopCake wrote:
I feel betrayed by chezinu


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On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.

So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.

But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?

Someone?

Nope.

And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.

At least reading slam is such a pleasure.

If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.

You and Slam are town.

Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.

Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.

Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.


After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez.

Pretty much on any other forum this would be a 100% lynch case because it is air tight. Is it though? I think this is a good example of why what you are arguing here is wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 23 2022 05:13 GMT
#3150
On September 23 2022 13:10 Chezinu wrote:
There was no activity because the game was solved. No lynch also served to ensure the game on the weekend.

Youre kidding yourself but that's fine.
On September 23 2022 13:16 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2022 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
I would have come back if it meant anything but I don't think any of them were gonna change their mind and they didn't seem very interested in actually conversing about it anyway.

If rayn didn't vote himself, I would of been paranoid of you being mafia and appearing right before lynch.

Enforced by this. If RAYN didn't do this i would think HF is mafia.

Nice solve on a mafia game people <3
Glad i didn't play.
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