EPTAnyone got an idea why TT spammed votes? Was he so bored he wanted to mess with a votecount bot?
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Anyone got an idea why TT spammed votes? Was he so bored he wanted to mess with a votecount bot? | ||
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On December 01 2020 10:47 Fecalfeast wrote: basically if I believe hapa is town which honestly I do from all this posting and I don't believe trfel is fake JK then it has to be vivax tt and that's kinda nice so I could switch to vivax If you bother to compare his earlier days posting (sizeable and sparse) with today's posting (fast reactive) do you not reach the conclusion that he changed his posting style to survive? It just seems logical to me that mafia would squeeze through a last effort here. And I don't think that Hapa switching from aforementioned posting style to one-liner spam should make him town. He fell out of character, so to say. | ||
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If rayn is indeed mafia with Hapa here then kudos to all the fake rage with mod intervention. But I don't see a reason for town-Hapa to even be mad just cause rayn isn't townreading him, esp. when it looks like the wagon is on me now, so that just might be staged. I'll drop that line of reasoning for the moment because it's mostly for posterity in case they pulled off a VE-Toad style bus. On December 01 2020 07:22 Hapahauli wrote: This is also why Vivax is mafia, because he somehow believes that bussing is a "good thing" for mafia here. This is also why TicTock is mafia, because he somehow believes that it is optimal play for a Hapa/Vivax mafia team to willingly walk into a murderous situation for "our team" by bussing the shit out of each other from early N1. This is nonsense because you aren't in a position to retract your scumread on me easily. Also I take it you have no preference for either TT or me? That matters for the next post. On December 01 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote: Let's make a deal TT. I think Vivax is mafia. You think Vivax is mafia. Let's kill Vivax. After that, since we both think that Trfel is the JK, he can simply block me tomorrow and "confirm me as mafia". Sounds good? Game solved and over from your perspective. No need to argue or do anything. This post is not something a townie would write. In theory, at lylo you'd want to aim for the tough call in your position and lynch the scumread you're less certain about, and then have the lock-in mafia read jailed. But given that it's mylo, mafia will simply not shoot. And your argumentation is that the no-shot would clear you after my hypothetical red flip. In conclusio, today you are mostly flailing and appealing to emotion and not even thinking things through properly. It might work on the likes of FF and Trfel though. | ||
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On December 01 2020 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax why am i mafia with Hapa? I know you said some bussing shit but what in my play makes me mafia? I think your tunnel on him earlier in the day looked too one-sided when we have to think in pairs. So the only explanation left is that you're trying to milk it. If my theory is correct, then TT is town and reacted exactly like he should to that. | ||
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On December 02 2020 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: "only explanation left is that you're trying to milk it. If my theory is correct, then TT is town" ???? If you and Hapa are mafia then TT is town and giving you the cred you would have tried to obtain, yes. That is to say, his reaction seems like the reaction I'd expect from a gullible townie. | ||
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On December 02 2020 01:49 Hapahauli wrote: I need a sarcasm font. No you need a muzzle. You and rayn are blatantly buring my posts in nonsense. | ||
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On December 02 2020 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: like you are sure i am mafia with hapa, but only IF your theory is correct then TT is town. I don't have a crystal orb and can only think in possibilities. What's your point? That I should deal in absolutes and bet my house on you and Hapa being mafia? I'm still open to the possibility that TT is mafia, it's just not the more likely scenario in my opinion. | ||
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On December 02 2020 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: isnt that what you just said? Semantics. Been there done that, I'll wait for Trfel and Fefe, enjoy your shitposting in the meantime, both of you. | ||
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On December 02 2020 03:01 Trfel wrote: You guys are posting so quickly I admit I had to skim the last 2 pages or I would never have caught up. Sorry for being away for so long, sleepy Trfel was sleepy.Why can't you be mafia with Hapahauli? And, come to think of it, you really think that Hapahauli and Vivax are mafia together, with how they've pushed each other? But I suppose raynpelikoneet disagrees. And his reasoning makes sense. But I'd like to hear yours? Yeah, I know  What? Not wanting to get lynched in MYLO makes someone mafia? I've got to take another look at the P61 thing and Hapahauli's explanation. Who doesn't want to not get lynched at MYLO? That doesn't mean that as town you start spamming after pretending to favour a more condensed style. What Hapa and rayn are doing is clearly disruptive. I don't see the need to start swearing and spamming, burying more informative posts in the process, and with only two mafia in the thread most likely. The outcome is still undecided and if you and FF (and TT maybe) won't change your mind then fine. I just wish you luck picking the target at night because you will decide the game. | ||
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On December 02 2020 03:11 Trfel wrote: Again, I've never seen Hapahauli play as scum (okay that's kind of a lie, I did try and read one of his games last night, good old 7 years old meta...) but I'd say this is definitely within raynpelikoneet's town range, no? Even if it isn't the most "productive" thing to be doing. If you think that and I think you were one of those advocating that mafia wouldn't be likely to bus here, why am I TTs preferred lynch? You are in a TT + Vivax world? Why isn't he voting Hapa? | ||
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On December 02 2020 03:19 Hapahauli wrote: Why are you encouraging Trfel to be suspicious of TT when your mafia team is Hapa/Rayn? OhrightwellVivaxismafiathings. I'm doing the opposite. Read more carefully while spamming scummy drivel. | ||
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1. He's on me and not budging because for someone unknown reason I'm the play here. 2. At some point he sees rayn + Vivax making sense when Hapa reads to me like his main scumread. In theory he'd be open to lynch rayn? Then why say it in a roundabout manner. The thing is, why should scum Hapa vote for him here? Why should scum rayn vote for him here? If TT is mafia, it can be only with me. But I'm not, ergo TT can't be mafia. I have a hunch that lynching TT will mean game over, unless someone is willing to put up with my hipster Hapa + Rayn suggestion. + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2020 19:52 Tictock wrote: Ok, so I was kinda waiting for Vivax to post, but I am leaning far back into Hapa/Vivax being mafia here. I think they bussed each other yesturday and I think I can back this up. I'll go through what I see in their filters but a large part of it is that they both call each other mafia with some conviction but back off those reads in soft ways. A big part of this stems from Hapa not taking a stance on who he thinks is mafia today. Despite several times saying he thinks Vivax is scum, and a big chunk of his arguments as to why Mafia would not kill him RELIES on Vivax being mafia. Hapa did post some reads after his claim, which he even reaffirms later to rayn. In both he says he is down to Rayn/Vivax/Myself but states Vivax is his most confident scum read. Bit of a tangent, but still in order of Hapa's filter, Hapa tells us he did not run for mayor because he wanted to use his role, but he also points out that he made it clear the only role he would not run for mayor with is Hatter. Mind you he feels he outed his role so clearly that Mafia should know that's his role. Anyone else see the irony in this? + Show Spoiler [quotes] + On November 30 2020 08:50 Hapahauli wrote: In that whole post, I'm saying that running for mayor is good with CPR Doc, JK, and Investigative role. So if I'm not running for mayor, that leaves two things: Mad Hatter or Vigi. On November 30 2020 08:53 Hapahauli wrote: And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town. Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor. All this brings me to this Now I do actually find the notion that if mafia know Hapa was Jailed they might not shoot him fearing another jail. However, this was Hapa's first thoughts as to why he would be killed and I think it's really important because of his 2nd point. Again we get the sense that from Hapa's pov Vivax HAS to be mafia. Whats even more interesting? This was Hapa's last post before he claimed Hatter. Put yourself in mafia's shoes, does this make you feel certain that a clearly HatterHapa is bombing Vivax so you shouldn't kill him? No more quotes as this post is big enough but when I asked Hapa what his reads were at the end of the lengthy discussion he claims he has no strong reads and seems to keep wanting to focus on Rayn. Now to me it seems like Hapa clearly thinks Vivax is scum, but he has yet to actually push Vivax or put down a vote on him. Which matches a lot with the way that he backed off his Vivax read (even mildly calling him town) when voting Jock don't you think? This all reads to me like Hapa KNOWS Vivax is mafia, but is reluctant to actually lynch him today if he doesn't have to. On December 01 2020 07:24 Tictock wrote: I need to round our Hapa's post on me, looks like he missed a few of my posts. I made the yolo team here in the game. I think it is relevant to read the next few posts after mine as I interacted with Vivax and explained where that team came from. Hapa choose not to include that post. This post was in response to Hapa's case on Vivax I also find it a bit funny he calls this... attacking Trfel's read. Not caught up yet, and more or less just waking up so might have to grab coffee and food soon. On December 01 2020 08:41 Tictock wrote: He is kinda on the same boat as me. Hapa claimed mafia would not kill him because they might set off his bomb on mafia!Vivax. Rayn was rightfully hounding down that that makes no sense when they knew he didn't have a bomb down and could RB and kill him without any worry. The only mechanical kink in that theory is that mafia knowing you are JK might be trying to play around protection. However this was still Happa's initial suggestion for why mafia would not kill him. While I find that all telling, I think looking at Happa's overall play it is clear his thinking is fualty if he was in fact Hatter. First he contradicts himself saying he didn't want mayor because getting shit let's hit use the role, but he later attempts to clearly breadcrum his role. I also think him using his blue claim as an excuse to drop off the game for awhile is telling. Then you can add in my point about his clearly having a strong scum read on Vivax at the start of day, they spends a few posts going "I don't know who is mafia, I keep flip flopping on Rayn" after several pages of defending his claim to me and rayn On December 01 2020 14:34 Tictock wrote: Humm, is this so crazy? It suppose it could explain some things. On December 01 2020 14:43 Tictock wrote: Yes I say that after making a big deal of not wanting to move my vote earlier. I thought Vivax had been the safe bet for most of the day but Hapa made me lose my shit by not pushing Vivax earlier. On December 01 2020 14:48 Tictock wrote: I am not getting into that, just saying Vivax should be the lynch here. | ||
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If Trfel and Fefe don't see the light, then so be it. | ||
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On December 02 2020 04:41 Tictock wrote: Oh, well this is what I get for going to sleep? GG, WP Rayn/Vivax Funny how Rayn has townread me all game until I suggest he could be mafia and want to lynch his buddie. You can blame yourself because you gave yourself plenty of reasons to scumread Hapa but are still stubbornly fixated on me being mafia when we had a chance at early consolidation. We'd have had much better chances of winning without you straying off the course. We really needed Hapa lynched today and it's hard not to see how happy he is that he gets to lynch you now. | ||
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The hazy-eyed, dazed rousing rabble again with a comical display of ineptness. Oh well. GG Haparayn. | ||
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On December 02 2020 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: i was vigi though didnt use my shot because i didnt want to ![[image loading]](https://media.tenor.com/images/6d6ab4c495357fb14f0383ff2a076b4a/tenor.gif) | ||
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Gz to you and Hapa. | ||
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On December 02 2020 05:41 Hapahauli wrote: I'll save the discussion for post game, but if you're mafia, I'm going to ship you a drink of choice to Finland. Please don't respond to this now, just think about it after the game ends. Imagine the face when you get the bill for a Billionaire Vodka. | ||
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Surprisingly good song. | ||
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