EPT[N]A Mostly Normal Game of Mafia - Page 38
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raynpelikoneet
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Have to leave for work in 5 hours >.< | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 16:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i think he is being hypocritical. Let me ask you, do you think you are being hypocritical when you play mafia? In sense of gameplay and what you believe makes people mafia? I have definitely found myself focusing on lurkers while lurking themselves. I generally hate meta reads but I have to admit I use them myself to some extent. So yes. I also think that when people change their thinking or are reacting to an immediate situation they often behave in ways that contradict what they say | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Trfel wants to lynch jock. He was also okay with lynching Vivax and didnt really care if FF dies. There has to be at least one town there. Unless you want to believe there is 3 mafia. Do you think Trfel ever actually tried to discern which is the push that is incorrect? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 28 2020 17:01 Tictock wrote: I also think that when people change their thinking or are reacting to an immediate situation they often behave in ways that contradict what they say Of course, i think people in this game (you too -- actually towards me) have been using this as a scapegoat to call someone mafia. That's why i asked you if it bothers you that you call me mafia for having reads and other people call me mafia for NOT having reads. It just doesnt mean anything lol ^^ | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay whenever you get to this think about it: Trfel wants to lynch jock. He was also okay with lynching Vivax and didnt really care if FF dies. There has to be at least one town there. Unless you want to believe there is 3 mafia. Do you think Trfel ever actually tried to discern which is the push that is incorrect? I think he has very clearly preffered to lynch Jock. I can absolutely understand having a scum read as well as a handful of people you just don't know how to read and are thus ok with multiple targets. Like it's probably not a 1 to 1 comparison but you had a similar position with your mayor submission last phase right? I definitely recall you asking for input as you weren't too locked in on one person How is this situation different? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I know that's fine, but there comes in the live as you preach. shockeyy somehow is not allowed to consolidate, or at least it is questionable. I find it weird from someone who would root for rayn in case i switched my vote now (100% sure  ).I dont think mayor shit is comparable. I kinda wish i executed FF instead of Grack even if it was worse for town because i think i would have more say with lynching mafia. Now i feel useless and i think i have done most of what i can to not lynch town. :/ This is definitely different than mayoral lynch if that's what you are talking about. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 17:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course, i think people in this game (you too -- actually towards me) have been using this as a scapegoat to call someone mafia. That's why i asked you if it bothers you that you call me mafia for having reads and other people call me mafia for NOT having reads. It just doesnt mean anything lol ^^ For as much as you play mafia it always amazes me that you expect people to behave rationally. I understand what you mean though. I thought I had more to add here but I think sleep is finally beconing as I am loosing focus | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote: Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... Honestly if this is what you are talking about, then.... No, Trfel is just over wording a question about Sho changing votes. I think the wishy-washy language is what is triggering you here. I don't think he is trying to imply Sho is scum he just doesn't understand what Sho is thinking | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On November 28 2020 17:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know he is preferred in lynching jock. However he is "giving chances" on Vivax and FF. I know that's fine, but there comes in the live as you preach. shockeyy somehow is not allowed to consolidate, or at least it is questionable. I find it weird from someone who would root for rayn in case i switched my vote now (100% sure ).I dont think mayor shit is comparable. I kinda wish i executed FF instead of Grack even if it was worse for town because i think i would have more say with lynching mafia. Now i feel useless and i think i have done most of what i can to not lynch town. :/ This is definitely different than mayoral lynch if that's what you are talking about. As for the mayor thing, I just mean in terms of having scum reads not voting mechanics. This is also why I was pushing to kill FF D1 and made that post about Grack being more readable as the game goes on whereas I suspect FF will always be a question mark. However we are where we are now. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
We do need to consolidate though due to majority. I won't be able to post or read much but I can change my vote if so have to. | ||
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Vivax
22168 Posts
On November 28 2020 17:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: I mean if I tinfoil here, if Trfel is mafia, while being pardoner can basically stop his lynch anyways. I don’t really see a problem point in discussing Trfel if that’s the case. And if it turns out he's mafia you just never attempt to lynch him? What would you suggest to solve that with. I still think he's town fwiw. My team would be Hapa + Jock atm. I just don't see how Hapa who is super diligent 'mistakenly' claims a roleblock and blurts out he's blue, and neither do I see how he wouldn't think Jock is mafia. Plus he manufactures very convoluted reasoning in cases against me that could be said in a much simpler way. That's because he's prioritizing the convincing over the validity of his case. On November 28 2020 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah no, not a valid point. Between this Grack has been advocating lynching TT. Oh yeah that's true. Point taken. When considering the mayor I also took into consideration the read I had on them and I'm not sure if Jock did that. He based it all on who they claimed as their target, and revisiting his filter I don't find strong evidence he had a TR on Grack aside from a +town points comment at some point. So I find it odd he was happy with mayor rayn knowing he was going to kill Grack. | ||
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Vivax
22168 Posts
Loosely posting with low effort is within his town scope, but that post gives him an impression like he's consciously doing it. | ||
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Vivax
22168 Posts
On November 28 2020 07:40 Trfel wrote: I dunno what to think about Vivax. I am still not completely sold on Hapahauli's reasons for Vivax being mafia, and I think Vivax's response to those reasons was actually decent. But there were some other things I didn't like: Vivax seemed to be accusing Hapahauli the whole time and then ended with "but you're blue" which seems odd to me? But not out of the realm of possibility. And secondly, Vivax didn't seem to do much at all besides defend himself, which I found quite underwhelming. I'll take another look at Vivax's filter. And I dunno what you are reading because I pointed out the Jock thing at the same time. This post is a lot of waffle and tbh I still have to look at what rayn has been saying about you. I don't think I ever called your alignment wrong though. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On November 28 2020 19:32 Vivax wrote: Yeah you are right, that wasn't an accurate statement. It was an impression I had that was untrue. My apologies.And I dunno what you are reading because I pointed out the Jock thing at the same time. This post is a lot of waffle and tbh I still have to look at what rayn has been saying about you. I don't think I ever called your alignment wrong though. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
ShoCkeyy (0): Jockmcplop (4): Fecalfeast, Trfel, Tictock, ShoCkeyy Tictock (0): Raynpelikoneet (0): Fecalfeast (1): Raynpelikoneet Vivax (1): Hapahauli, Hapahauli (0): Trfel (0): No Lynch (0): Not Voting: Jockmcplop, Vivax. Currently, there will be a No Lynch Day 2 ends in on Saturday, Nov 28 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). | ||
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Vivax
22168 Posts
As for FF it's that he's one of those people. Overall posting seems townie. I still think Hapa started off the day just like a mafia softing blue would. He goes whoops on his RB claim and doesn't have to reveal the role. But that obviously doesn't make him scum by itself. It just seems unusually sloppy for him. What imo makes him possible scum is (aside from various misreps, thinking of him calling my posting useless) his preference for active players in the lynches. And right now he should be thinking I'm bussing Jock and maybe deliver a scenario where that's possible. He seems otherwise content to let FF and Shockeyy remain in the null area, while he should be having a better read on rayn by now. Really good mafia pushes vocal players first and finishes the job in a finale of coinflips. Granted, I can't find anything in his filter that makes me go HA. It's just that I get a feeling of dishonesty from his preferences and the way he goes about me. | ||
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Vivax
22168 Posts
I'm a bit worried that he's the only viable wagon. But I'll vote for him in the meantime. Anyone else around? On November 25 2020 00:47 Jockmcplop wrote: Where are you getting the 'joke' candidacy thing from? I'm more critical of people assuming that slam's campaign makes him town, and i'm critical of slam putting that idea forward too. I have never said anything about slam's campaign being a joke or that i think about it in that way. I don't think he's joking at all. I'm voting for grack because he was thinking along similar lines to me as regards to slam's campaign not making him town, and bought it up in the thread before I did, so I gave him town points. I figure I'm better off voting for someone other than myself as mayor because i'm more likely to be able to pick out a town and help them be mayor than i am to do anything useful if i was mayor. At the moment grack has town points so he has my vote. This post is also giving me pause. Because on the followup Hapa avoids to answer Jocks question where he got the joke candidacy from. I don't know if it has been adressed afterwards though. | ||
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