|
Fecalfeast, if you are not killed, would you play more?
|
On November 26 2020 04:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just followed my preferred candidate to someone I think of as town
Is any mayoral candidate NOT likely going to kill me? I submitted Grackaroni currently. That said, I definitely do expect more from you in the future.
|
On November 26 2020 04:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 04:14 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2020 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Trfel I don't really want a Grack lynch. Can we arrange that or do I vote another mayor?
Not because he's supertown or anything but I think he's enjoyable to play with.
Lynching Shockeyy would also help, because I have a hunch that I'm going to think he's mafia at some point anyway based on past experiences. And now I can't tell what he is. Why allow a pokerface in town? Yes, I agree that Grackaroni is enjoyable to play with, and in that sense I'd like to keep him around longer, but I do think he has an okay chance of being mafia here. I can take another look at ShoCkeyy, I do think he could be mafia, I guess I would prefer to have reasons why he is mafia before lynching him though. I don't really like lynching people if I can't say why they are mafia. I'm not certain about voting for Grackaroni, we can talk about it, though I don't mind if you want to vote for someone else for mayor either. If you and Hapahauli could agree on someone that would help too. Can I ask what you don't like about the reasons Hapahauli brought up to suspect Grackaroni? + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.
So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.
Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.
I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."
Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences. I think he just wanted to make a funny entrance. Don't really see him being mafia atm.Shockeyy is always like that. If I'd kill him then not because I think he's scum but because I will never be sure about what he is, probably. Someone mentioned earlier that Jock seemed less analytical than in his usual town games and I'll agree. I also find it odd in his case that he doesn't think Trfel is town given when they have been teammates and imo Trfel doesn't post like in that game (the "Trfel help" one). That said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few. "He ran for mayor and then stopped caring" is a bad metric. And feels lazy by Hapa. I don't think that was Hapahauli's reasoning? Or mine for that matter.
|
On November 26 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2020 04:45 Vivax wrote:On November 26 2020 04:14 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2020 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Trfel I don't really want a Grack lynch. Can we arrange that or do I vote another mayor?
Not because he's supertown or anything but I think he's enjoyable to play with.
Lynching Shockeyy would also help, because I have a hunch that I'm going to think he's mafia at some point anyway based on past experiences. And now I can't tell what he is. Why allow a pokerface in town? Yes, I agree that Grackaroni is enjoyable to play with, and in that sense I'd like to keep him around longer, but I do think he has an okay chance of being mafia here. I can take another look at ShoCkeyy, I do think he could be mafia, I guess I would prefer to have reasons why he is mafia before lynching him though. I don't really like lynching people if I can't say why they are mafia. I'm not certain about voting for Grackaroni, we can talk about it, though I don't mind if you want to vote for someone else for mayor either. If you and Hapahauli could agree on someone that would help too. Can I ask what you don't like about the reasons Hapahauli brought up to suspect Grackaroni? + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.
So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.
Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.
I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."
Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences. I think he just wanted to make a funny entrance. Don't really see him being mafia atm.Shockeyy is always like that. If I'd kill him then not because I think he's scum but because I will never be sure about what he is, probably. Someone mentioned earlier that Jock seemed less analytical than in his usual town games and I'll agree. I also find it odd in his case that he doesn't think Trfel is town given when they have been teammates and imo Trfel doesn't post like in that game (the "Trfel help" one). That said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few. "He ran for mayor and then stopped caring" is a bad metric. And feels lazy by Hapa. I don't think that was Hapahauli's reasoning? Or mine for that matter. Yea ok it was about him running without targets. Regardless, the point stands. I think he just posted his candidacy to post his story, not because he actually wanted to be mayor. And Hapa instantly imposes the point of view that he really wanted to run for mayor. How about Grackaroni just not having reads this game? Until three hours ago, anyway. Mayoral campaign aside.
He's been here and he hasn't been really contributing much, especially before three hours ago.
|
On November 26 2020 04:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 04:53 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:On November 26 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2020 04:45 Vivax wrote:On November 26 2020 04:14 Trfel wrote:On November 26 2020 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Trfel I don't really want a Grack lynch. Can we arrange that or do I vote another mayor?
Not because he's supertown or anything but I think he's enjoyable to play with.
Lynching Shockeyy would also help, because I have a hunch that I'm going to think he's mafia at some point anyway based on past experiences. And now I can't tell what he is. Why allow a pokerface in town? Yes, I agree that Grackaroni is enjoyable to play with, and in that sense I'd like to keep him around longer, but I do think he has an okay chance of being mafia here. I can take another look at ShoCkeyy, I do think he could be mafia, I guess I would prefer to have reasons why he is mafia before lynching him though. I don't really like lynching people if I can't say why they are mafia. I'm not certain about voting for Grackaroni, we can talk about it, though I don't mind if you want to vote for someone else for mayor either. If you and Hapahauli could agree on someone that would help too. Can I ask what you don't like about the reasons Hapahauli brought up to suspect Grackaroni? + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.
So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.
Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.
I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."
Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences. I think he just wanted to make a funny entrance. Don't really see him being mafia atm.Shockeyy is always like that. If I'd kill him then not because I think he's scum but because I will never be sure about what he is, probably. Someone mentioned earlier that Jock seemed less analytical than in his usual town games and I'll agree. I also find it odd in his case that he doesn't think Trfel is town given when they have been teammates and imo Trfel doesn't post like in that game (the "Trfel help" one). That said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few. "He ran for mayor and then stopped caring" is a bad metric. And feels lazy by Hapa. I don't think that was Hapahauli's reasoning? Or mine for that matter. Yea ok it was about him running without targets. Regardless, the point stands. I think he just posted his candidacy to post his story, not because he actually wanted to be mayor. And Hapa instantly imposes the point of view that he really wanted to run for mayor. How about Grackaroni just not having reads this game? Until three hours ago, anyway. Mayoral campaign aside. He's been here and he hasn't been really contributing much, especially before three hours ago. Oh but Shockeyy and TT did? TT's comeback content can best be described as rushed. ShoCkeyy hasn't really been here, and is (unfortunately) known for not doing much throughout the game, especially Day 1.
Your Tictock point has more merit. I just feel like Grackaroni is scummier than Tictock; Tictock's posts come off a bit townier to me, more genuine. I guess it's a slight tonal thing, I dunno how to explain it in the time before the deadline really.
|
That's good, right? I think so? He would have stolen a player, and then had 1 KP... Did town need to eliminate him to win? I guess it's a moot point but just curious
Anyway I have a meeting soon but I'll be around later.
|
Jockmcplop
- Jockmcplop spent much of his Day 1 pushing suspicion at Alakaslam, only to say that he wasn't ever scumreading him
+ Show Spoiler [explanation] +Jockmcplop's posts pushing suspicion at Alakaslam: On November 24 2020 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
Does it look to anyone else like slam just wants the protection of being mayor but none of the responsibility? I'm not sure if its mafia motivated but it puts a different slant on his mayoral run. He's portraying it as the utilitarian option where town gets to choose but to me it just looks like he's asking people to early town read him for no real reason. On November 24 2020 21:09 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 09:00 Trfel wrote:On November 24 2020 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 24 2020 08:52 Trfel wrote:
For me, Alakaslam's mayor candidacy feels genuine. While I don't necessarily agree with his "pliable" argument, it seems to come from a town perspective. I also like his tone this game, it feels like a good balance between serious and playful, which I think is hard for Alakaslam as scum. I've seen him play both very joking and very serious as mafia, but a balance like shown here is harder to achieve. I think i agree with other parts of your post, but why would Slam NOT candidate himself as mayor as mafia? Why would anyone, regardless of alignment, per se not wanna be mayor? On November 24 2020 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you think there is 3 mafia? Slight possibility, no? Given the KP formula in the setup post rather than just saying 1 KP. really? so mylo D2 if the mayor lynches town? even worse if the mayor/pardoner happens to be mafia.... As to the second part, I dunno, I didn't really think a ton about it. I just don't count anything 100% out in terms of setup. It doesn't really matter anyway, no? I am not saying that Alakaslam wouldn't try to make himself mayor as mafia. He likely would. I feel that the way he has gone about it is genuine and towny. Hi trfel! Can you see how his run might not seem to me to come from a town perspective at all? Sure it looks like it but also you can also just as easily look at it as mafia trying to get free protection without having to risk anything because town gets the blame for the lynch and not slam. On November 24 2020 22:33 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 06:34 Alakaslam wrote:
So, I think the campaign is actually in itself (due to timing) it’s own credence to the fact that my pliability is a good thing. We should vote for him because his campaign validates him as town by its very nature? But he could just as easily be making this argument as mafia and playing the odds of a townkill by consent on day 1 for the free protection. He shouldn't get any towncred for the promise to do what town decides. Excluding the way he pushes suspicion at me (Trfel) for thinking that Alakaslam's mayoral campaign was towny, or posts including that. Regardless, Jockmcplop clearly criticized Alakaslam's mayoral campaign. On November 25 2020 23:41 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.
So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.
Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.
I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."
Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences. I disagree that townreads aren't important right now. They pretty much narrow down the pool of who can be mayor. Clearly shockeyy has no people townreading him so he won't be mayor. Out of the people claiming they want to be mayor, only slam and ticktock have said what they will do if elected. That's a problem. Out of those two I would probably prefer slam because at least he's been here enough that i'm confident he knows exactly what is happening. Emphasis mine. And: On November 26 2020 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 01:38 Grackaroni wrote:On November 26 2020 01:24 Vivax wrote:On November 26 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)
I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.
Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected. What's your take on Jock? His post about Trfel was a good one and I think he has the right view on Rayn. I'm not sure what his reasoning was for changing his mind on Slam. Although I didn't think slam's campaign naturally made him town, i never scumread him and still don't. So then what was the purpose of these posts about Alakaslam? If it stuck out so much, why didn't it result in a scumread? Or even an "I don't want this guy to be mayor"? It makes no sense from a town perspective. Jockmcplop didn't actually care or follow up on his posts about Alakaslam, despite having valid reasons to suspect Alakaslam and definitely valid reasons to be suspicious of his mayoral campaign.
- Didn't care to push or lynch his only scumread (me)
+ Show Spoiler [explanation] +Jockmcplop was critical of my play in what I can only assume to be a scumread: On November 24 2020 22:44 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 08:52 Trfel wrote:
I don't think anything people say would change my opinion of Alakaslam, I don't ask to figure out more about Alakaslam's alignment, rather I asked to try and help figure out yours. Your answer isn't particularly helpful, but it's also understandable, so not much was gained. Oh well.
For me, Alakaslam's mayor candidacy feels genuine. While I don't necessarily agree with his "pliable" argument, it seems to come from a town perspective. I also like his tone this game, it feels like a good balance between serious and playful, which I think is hard for Alakaslam as scum. I've seen him play both very joking and very serious as mafia, but a balance like shown here is harder to achieve.
This post is bizarre. He says he doesn't think anything anyone will say will change his opinion of slam. But then later on: Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 15:28 Trfel wrote:
That's an interesting point about Alakaslam, I'll have ro think about that. His persistence about the mayor stuff with little substance is giving me pause too. Also: Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 08:52 Trfel wrote:
For me, Alakaslam's mayor candidacy feels genuine. While I don't necessarily agree with his "pliable" argument, it seems to come from a town perspective. I also like his tone this game, it feels like a good balance between serious and playful, which I think is hard for Alakaslam as scum. I've seen him play both very joking and very serious as mafia, but a balance like shown here is harder to achieve.
Slam's pliable argument IS his entire campaign. Vote for him because he must be town because a vote for him is a vote for whatever town decides, therefore he must be town. I don't see how that comes from a town perspective. Trfel's start is all full of contradictions. He seems ultra confident about slam's tone and then seems to drop that line of thought so easily. On November 25 2020 18:45 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 15:56 Trfel wrote:
The more I think about it, the less I like Jockmcplop's criticisms of Alakaslam's mayoral run. I'm not sure how much incentive there is for mafia to want the mayor's bodyguard protection; how likely is it that mafia will be targeted with KP? There is no confirmed town KP, and a third party with KP (while not out of the question) would still have to target him, which is a bit strange too. Nothing Jockmcplop is saying is technically wrong: mafia could campaign to try and get the mayor protection and absolve themselves of responsibility by lynching town's target and getting townreads. But it's just not very compelling. Alakaslam could also be town doing exactly the same thing. The mafia motivation for that kind of play isn't really more compelling than the town motivation, I don't understand how it makes Alakaslam mafia.
I feel like I worded that poorly but it's late at night so I'm not sure if I can say it any better right now. Let me know if that doesn't make sense.
I think Jockmcplop is likely my top suspect at this time. I thought I made it pretty clear I was more critical of you townreading slam than i was of slam's run. You are exactly right that slam's run *could* be from a town perspective, but my problem was that you immediately assumed it was from a town perspective and didn't even consider the idea that mafia could be doing the same thing for mafia reasons. On November 25 2020 23:41 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 23:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Mornin'.
So we have a lynch in 6 hours. This discussion needs to be about a) who is mayor, and b) who town wants dead. There are too many people talking about light suspicions and townreads. That is not important right now.
Trfel for mayor. Whoever is mayor should shoot Grack or Shockeyy.
I think Grack is mafia, and I think Trfel brought up the best point against him: he has been relatively active and running for mayor, but reading his filter, I have no sense of what is "platform" is and who he even wants lynched. That seems like the hallmark of scum "looking like they want to contribute."
Shockeyy is remarkably disengaged in this game. He is existing, but again, no idea of what he wants to accomplish beyond his mayoral preferences. I disagree that townreads aren't important right now. They pretty much narrow down the pool of who can be mayor. Clearly shockeyy has no people townreading him so he won't be mayor. Out of the people claiming they want to be mayor, only slam and ticktock have said what they will do if elected. That's a problem. Out of those two I would probably prefer slam because at least he's been here enough that i'm confident he knows exactly what is happening. I'm unvoting grack because I don't feel like he has continued to engage with the mayor thing at all really like he never really wanted to be mayor in the first place. Trfel seems like an odd choice to me. He hasn't said he wanted to be mayor and has given no indication of what he would do if he was mayor. I can't vote for him anyway. (emphasis mine) This is by far the strongest suspicion Jockmcplop has shared in his entire filter. However, Jockmcplop never even directly says he is suspicious of me, or scumreading me, or anything to that effect. He never advocates for a lynch on me. In the end, he ends up slightly advocating for a lynch on Tictock: On November 26 2020 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:slam:Will do what town decides grack:TT
TT:FeFe Rayn:FF or TT Fefe:TT maybe Shockeyy Trfel:me, shockeyy, FF, TT, Grack We need to get this down to 2 candidates who are trusted by town. Personally I would have one of grack/rayn as mayor and maybe slam as pardoner. I will probably revote grack just because I think TT has been super lazy just picking something Fefe said on the first page and leaving that as his scumread for the whole time.Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 01:38 Grackaroni wrote:On November 26 2020 01:24 Vivax wrote:On November 26 2020 00:54 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were mayor I'd kill Ticktock. I think he's less comfortable playing scum and more likely to lurk through the day because of his role than FF. (I know he's playing WoW but the thread isn't overwhelmingly large)
I wouldn't be upset though if any of FF/ShoCkey/TT are lynched.
Of active players Trfel is most likely mafia but I wouldn't gamble on that today, though I'd definitely like to avoid him being elected. What's your take on Jock? His post about Trfel was a good one and I think he has the right view on Rayn. I'm not sure what his reasoning was for changing his mind on Slam. Although I didn't think slam's campaign naturally made him town, i never scumread him and still don't. (emphasis mine) Calling Tictock lazy, not even mafia. This means that Jockmcplop is content having essentially no scumreads, almost no suspicions, the entire Day 1. He can try to explain it away as a mayoral election, yet he still says it's important to know what the candidates will do if elected. This isn't the insightful town Jockmcplop I am used to seeing. It's not a matter of time either, as Jockmcplop said he had plenty of time to play today: On November 25 2020 21:38 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 21:20 Trfel wrote:On November 25 2020 18:45 Jockmcplop wrote:On November 25 2020 15:56 Trfel wrote:
The more I think about it, the less I like Jockmcplop's criticisms of Alakaslam's mayoral run. I'm not sure how much incentive there is for mafia to want the mayor's bodyguard protection; how likely is it that mafia will be targeted with KP? There is no confirmed town KP, and a third party with KP (while not out of the question) would still have to target him, which is a bit strange too. Nothing Jockmcplop is saying is technically wrong: mafia could campaign to try and get the mayor protection and absolve themselves of responsibility by lynching town's target and getting townreads. But it's just not very compelling. Alakaslam could also be town doing exactly the same thing. The mafia motivation for that kind of play isn't really more compelling than the town motivation, I don't understand how it makes Alakaslam mafia.
I feel like I worded that poorly but it's late at night so I'm not sure if I can say it any better right now. Let me know if that doesn't make sense.
I think Jockmcplop is likely my top suspect at this time. I thought I made it pretty clear I was more critical of you townreading slam than i was of slam's run. You are exactly right that slam's run *could* be from a town perspective, but my problem was that you immediately assumed it was from a town perspective and didn't even consider the idea that mafia could be doing the same thing for mafia reasons. @First paragraph: I see, sorry I missed that. @Second paragraph: It's the way that Alakaslam was going about his campaign that seemed towny to me, not the fact about it. Mostly a tonal read at first. I do think that the "pliability" argument is more likely to come from town, as (in my opinion) lynch blame doesn't really exist and as a result, it feels a bit strange for mafia to come up with that argument. But the tonal read was the main part of my read.
In other news, I really do want you to be town this game  But right now, I'm just not seeing it. You feel minimally involved and not very invested. I assume you disagree with my assessment? No you're exactly right. I haven't had a whole lot of time so far but i'm here all day (minus video game playing time of course) today so you'll get more out of me. Yet even in a short game, seems content with having no scumreads. The simplest and most likely explanation is that he is mafia.
Conclusion
Jockmcplop hasn't accomplished anything this game. He has no scumreads, almost no suspicions even, yet seems very content with this. His words and posts also don't match the (lack of) conclusions he draws from them. In combination with not caring about who is lynched Day 1, Jockmcplop is very likely mafia.
|
On November 26 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I heavily disagree here. I get that he hasn't made any single glaring blunder, but he still reads very much like mafia to me. In fact, I'd say that he's made some basic mistakes, in his reads not matching the suspicion he has been throwing (especially towards Alakaslam).
|
@raynpelikoneet:On November 25 2020 21:38 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2020 21:20 Trfel wrote:On November 25 2020 18:45 Jockmcplop wrote:On November 25 2020 15:56 Trfel wrote:
The more I think about it, the less I like Jockmcplop's criticisms of Alakaslam's mayoral run. I'm not sure how much incentive there is for mafia to want the mayor's bodyguard protection; how likely is it that mafia will be targeted with KP? There is no confirmed town KP, and a third party with KP (while not out of the question) would still have to target him, which is a bit strange too. Nothing Jockmcplop is saying is technically wrong: mafia could campaign to try and get the mayor protection and absolve themselves of responsibility by lynching town's target and getting townreads. But it's just not very compelling. Alakaslam could also be town doing exactly the same thing. The mafia motivation for that kind of play isn't really more compelling than the town motivation, I don't understand how it makes Alakaslam mafia.
I feel like I worded that poorly but it's late at night so I'm not sure if I can say it any better right now. Let me know if that doesn't make sense.
I think Jockmcplop is likely my top suspect at this time. I thought I made it pretty clear I was more critical of you townreading slam than i was of slam's run. You are exactly right that slam's run *could* be from a town perspective, but my problem was that you immediately assumed it was from a town perspective and didn't even consider the idea that mafia could be doing the same thing for mafia reasons. @First paragraph: I see, sorry I missed that. @Second paragraph: It's the way that Alakaslam was going about his campaign that seemed towny to me, not the fact about it. Mostly a tonal read at first. I do think that the "pliability" argument is more likely to come from town, as (in my opinion) lynch blame doesn't really exist and as a result, it feels a bit strange for mafia to come up with that argument. But the tonal read was the main part of my read.
In other news, I really do want you to be town this game But right now, I'm just not seeing it. You feel minimally involved and not very invested. I assume you disagree with my assessment? No you're exactly right. I haven't had a whole lot of time so far but i'm here all day (minus video game playing time of course) today so you'll get more out of me. This answer, as to why Jockmcplop felt uninvolved and not very present in the game.
It was an answer I expected to hear regardless of alignment but I wanted to see how he said it. The fact that he said he should have more time today and then that wasn't reflected in his play at all is very telling in my opinion.
|
In other news, I'm starting to think less and less that raynpelikoneet is mafia. And I'm wondering more about Fecalfeast. Though I'm not sure if Fecalfeast would be quite this useless as mafia? Probably a terrible metric.
Not really confident at all on who else is mafia (regardless of if I am right or not on Jockmcplop), unfortunately.
Also, I won't be around for the deadline tomorrow, since it's a night deadline that should be fine though.
|
Do you know who else is mafia then? Other than Jockmcplop, if I am reading your post correctly. No worries if not, just curious.
|
Honestly a bit down IRL still, but recovering. If anyone wants to talk about anything I am happy to!
|
I was making another list post and then I realized it was useless so I deleted it. Forgot that my thoughts on the Vivax case were in there, so I never actually posted them. Sorry.
I don't really see Vivax's pursuit of multiple lynch targets as particularly compelling, I suppose. I agree with you that it's improper gameplay for town, but at the same time I could see it coming from town. I'm interested to see what Vivax has to say about it though, I'll let him speak for himself. Maybe I'm being dumb here.
As for the incongruencies around Grackaroni, you're saying that Vivax said both:
(1) Grackaroni isn't supertown or anything
(2) Didn't buy the arguments for Grackaroni being mafia
To me, Vivax having effectively a null read of Grackaroni satisfies both of these conditions. He wouldn't want to keep him alive because he's towny, but he still wouldn't want to lynch him because he's not scummy.
I'll keep re-evaluating though.
|
On November 26 2020 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2020 12:41 Trfel wrote:
Honestly a bit down IRL still, but recovering. If anyone wants to talk about anything I am happy to! What happened? Nothing in particular, just I've been dealing with a heavy case of clinical depression for a few years now, unfortunately.
|
Fecalfeast, have you decided yet if you want to play this game?
|
Do you have any thoughts on who you think is mafia?
|
Thanks guys, appreciate it. I'm not sure how treatable my depression is, I'm on medication for it, but I'm just not sure how much that helps, unfortunately.
@Alakaslam, can I ask why you are suspecting Vivax now? Is it based on what Hapahauli said, or other reasons?
|
Nice job Hapahauli 
Just got back. Kinda surprised about the Alakaslam kill, but he had a role and I like playing with him so that's disappointing.
I'll take another look at the Vivax stuff in a second.
|
Yeah, I can see what you're saying Hapahauli, it certainly doesn't give a good look for Vivax. I guess I'm just super confident in Jockmcplop being mafia right now, it's hard to see me preferring any other lynch. Obviously with today being majority lynch, I'm happy to compromise.
I suppose technically I could use my pardoner ability to hold town hostage and get the lynch I want but I'll stop tempting myself That's never getting used. Even if I am lynched.
|
Mechanically speaking, we're down to 6 town and 2 mafia (most likely). We can get a claim from the bodyguard and 1-2 blue claims as well (presumably Hapahauli).
I guess I don't really see how that's a solved game, given that we have only two lynches? Seems like there's definitely still some work to be done here, unless I'm missing something.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
