I recommend knowing the rules. This one is closed, though. What does [B][M] stand for? Bowel movements of cour-
Pardon me. Bad Manner. Because I am badly mannered and-
Goodness, twice in a row? Third time lucky.
It means Bastard Mini. Now, this isn’t and INTENTIONAL bastard game. But, I suck at gauging balance when comparad to GreYMisT and iGrok. Meeting iGrok and Conversion was cool by the way. We went to Klatt in Ktown. Great stuff but I revealed my despicable nature to iGrok
Ask him how bad I am before joining if you are concerned, join if you dare.
AFTER THAT SHITTASTIC DISCLAIMER:
I’ve done my best to balance this! I know I could ask for help. But the success or failure of this setup largely relies on it’s total and complete secrecy. I have been infected with the Spirit of GlaDOS; I MUST test! I cannot let the better minds and goodwill of better men prevent me. Indeed, Japanese war criminals are directly responsible for much of our medical advancement since prior to the second great war...
Free Your Mind! Join this game! Availability is limited, for I must not burn all bridges.
***WARNING: SETUP IS KNOWN BY IGROK AND IS ***NOT*** APPROVED. CONVERSION THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING, BUT ALSO DEFERRED TO IGROK’S BETTER OPINION.
KEEP EXPECTATIONS LOW, OR WAIT FOR THE GREYMIST GAME; THIS EXPERIMENT SHOULD BE TINY, AND PERFORMED BY PEOPLE WHO AREN’T SURE THEY AGREE WITH IGROK WHO IS ONE OF THE BEST GAME BALANCERS TL HAS SEEN.***
I think this could be fun. He did not think so. Keep that in mind.
“...slam. Why are you hosting this?”
I have seen great people be wrong. Some things cannot be known until they are tried.
“Slam, you dumbass. What is the timetable for this game? How do I know I am not committed to 8+years of caller-esque madness that only chezinu will have the loyalty to support?”
Oh yeah
This will be a normal cycle game should be over in a week
We will start, uh, after my daughter is born. She gets to be a pre veteran’s day kid. So! Fun birthday for her, lotta duties for me. Game should start on Veteran’s day (Nov 11 in USA, 12 in Asia/Eastern Europe/USA since the deadline is pretty late) unless there are any scheduling issues. Gotta bring hapa in on the setup too
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
On November 10 2020 12:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 10 2020 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 10 2020 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: + Show Spoiler +
Who are these?
Was this on Artanis wedding?
That’s rayn and arty yup
Rayn is the one who looks like Richard Hammond but sexier.
Rels wishes he was as handsome as me! And yeah that was at our wedding.
^Me and rsoultin, my wife
Of course, I wouldn't have dared to be prettier than you during your own wedding!
It's appreciated, and you were still at least the 3rd most handsome guy there ♥
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
On November 10 2020 12:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 10 2020 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 10 2020 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: + Show Spoiler +
Who are these?
Was this on Artanis wedding?
That’s rayn and arty yup
Rayn is the one who looks like Richard Hammond but sexier.
Rels wishes he was as handsome as me! And yeah that was at our wedding.
^Me and rsoultin, my wife
Of course, I wouldn't have dared to be prettier than you during your own wedding!
It's appreciated, and you were still at least the 3rd most handsome guy there ♥
By the way, sorry I jumped to #1 every time I opened my mouth and used my great accent. I can't help it
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
On November 10 2020 12:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 10 2020 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 10 2020 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: + Show Spoiler +
Who are these?
Was this on Artanis wedding?
That’s rayn and arty yup
Rayn is the one who looks like Richard Hammond but sexier.
Rels wishes he was as handsome as me! And yeah that was at our wedding.
^Me and rsoultin, my wife
Of course, I wouldn't have dared to be prettier than you during your own wedding!
It's appreciated, and you were still at least the 3rd most handsome guy there ♥
By the way, sorry I jumped to #1 every time I opened my mouth and used my great accent. I can't help it
Can't really argue with that tbh, your outrageously strong but still very clear and understandable accent is unmatched.
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
On November 10 2020 12:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 10 2020 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 10 2020 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: + Show Spoiler +
Who are these?
Was this on Artanis wedding?
That’s rayn and arty yup
Rayn is the one who looks like Richard Hammond but sexier.
Rels wishes he was as handsome as me! And yeah that was at our wedding.
^Me and rsoultin, my wife
Of course, I wouldn't have dared to be prettier than you during your own wedding!
It's appreciated, and you were still at least the 3rd most handsome guy there ♥
Oh wow that's a blast from the past lol Top left to right: Mondragon, me, Lamer, Testie, ?, Tasteless, ?, and I wanna say the last guy is SeleCT Bottom left to right: MidiaN, mnm, some random dude, Lilsusie, GoOdY
She was born! No complications, chill baby with a middle name Chell (thanks for the reminder GreYMisT) who came into the world in an explosion of fluids.
On November 11 2020 18:59 Alakaslam wrote: She was born! No complications, chill baby with a middle name Chell (thanks for the reminder GreYMisT) who came into the world in an explosion of fluids.
On November 11 2020 18:59 Alakaslam wrote: She was born! No complications, chill baby with a middle name Chell (thanks for the reminder GreYMisT) who came into the world in an explosion of fluids.
On November 11 2020 18:59 Alakaslam wrote: She was born! No complications, chill baby with a middle name Chell (thanks for the reminder GreYMisT) who came into the world in an explosion of fluids.
On November 11 2020 18:59 Alakaslam wrote: She was born! No complications, chill baby with a middle name Chell (thanks for the reminder GreYMisT) who came into the world in an explosion of fluids.
Zerg baby much. My wife must be royalty; a Queen.
I believe it's the spawning pool you're talking about.
On November 11 2020 18:59 Alakaslam wrote: She was born! No complications, chill baby with a middle name Chell (thanks for the reminder GreYMisT) who came into the world in an explosion of fluids.
Zerg baby much. My wife must be royalty; a Queen.
I believe it's the spawning pool you're talking about.
He's lucky that there wasn't a booming voice mid labor "SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS".
Due to the unforeseen issues that arise on night 0 of a baby’s lif-/;/
Ahem.
Due to the fact that babies cry, an obvious fact that literally everyone knows, my fam is bushwhacked even though my kid is actually really chill. I will need a while before I can host this- maybe a weekend start?
On November 12 2020 06:54 GreYMisT wrote: On a serious note, a cohost is how Aperture managed to get run on time with a newborn. Thanks publicly Artanis!
On November 12 2020 06:54 GreYMisT wrote: On a serious note, a cohost is how Aperture managed to get run on time with a newborn. Thanks publicly Artanis!
On November 12 2020 11:44 Grackaroni wrote: I'll be mafia.
Just don't tell anybody else.
Welcome! You areTotally Mafia! Seriously! No really! Each night, you may deliver a “factional kp” to a player. That player will be said to have died with no flip in the day post, but will be explicitly told by the host that they are still alive. They may post and their vote will count, though it will not be reflected in the total vote count in the vote thread. Because you do not actually kill people, medic protection will not prevent your ability. In addition, each player you “kill” will be sent to a collective obs QT. You win when all the real mafia are dead, and you equal or outnumber all players not “dead” either actually or by your fake gun.
On November 12 2020 11:44 Grackaroni wrote: I'll be mafia.
Just don't tell anybody else.
Welcome! You areTotally Mafia! Seriously! No really! Each night, you may deliver a “factional kp” to a player. That player will be said to have died with no flip in the day post, but will be explicitly told by the host that they are still alive. They may post and their vote will count, though it will not be reflected in the total vote count in the vote thread. Because you do not actually kill people, medic protection will not prevent your ability. In addition, each player you “kill” will be sent to a collective obs QT. You win when all the real mafia are dead, and you equal or outnumber all players not “dead” either actually or by your fake gun.
That's actually a pretty funny role. I wonder if this "SK light" will work in a normal game setup that would normally have an SK, but needs less real bullets flying around?
On November 12 2020 11:44 Grackaroni wrote: I'll be mafia.
Just don't tell anybody else.
Welcome! You areTotally Mafia! Seriously! No really! Each night, you may deliver a “factional kp” to a player. That player will be said to have died with no flip in the day post, but will be explicitly told by the host that they are still alive. They may post and their vote will count, though it will not be reflected in the total vote count in the vote thread. Because you do not actually kill people, medic protection will not prevent your ability. In addition, each player you “kill” will be sent to a collective obs QT. You win when all the real mafia are dead, and you equal or outnumber all players not “dead” either actually or by your fake gun.
That's actually a pretty funny role. I wonder if this "SK light" will work in a normal game setup that would normally have an SK, but needs less real bullets flying around?
This would potentially be a pretty fun way to do a cult I think.
I might try it one day as part of a slightly less than normal game
I am super cheesy and love christmas hallmark movies, at least they are bettwe than the netflix ones they had been airing the last two years for the exception of the holidate and noel.
On November 12 2020 22:31 Number 4 wrote: I am super cheesy and love christmas hallmark movies, at least they are bettwe than the netflix ones they had been airing the last two years for the exception of the holidate and noel.
On November 12 2020 22:31 Number 4 wrote: I am super cheesy and love christmas hallmark movies, at least they are bettwe than the netflix ones they had been airing the last two years for the exception of the holidate and noel.
Klaus was really good.
Oh that is the one I meant! Idk why I said Noel.
Klaus was adorable and loved how they created the story of the legend.
Before I receive alignment disclaimer: time has no meaning for me anymore, so I might be posting at inconsistent times as I try to keep a tiny one alive.
Aww! Super happy for you Slam :3!! I have many obligations for December. Starting soon rather later is best for me. That said, a babe is much more important than a game. If it starts late I'll do my bestest unless someone wants to sub me if needs.
On November 12 2020 11:44 Grackaroni wrote: I'll be mafia.
Just don't tell anybody else.
Welcome! You areTotally Mafia! Seriously! No really! Each night, you may deliver a “factional kp” to a player. That player will be said to have died with no flip in the day post, but will be explicitly told by the host that they are still alive. They may post and their vote will count, though it will not be reflected in the total vote count in the vote thread. Because you do not actually kill people, medic protection will not prevent your ability. In addition, each player you “kill” will be sent to a collective obs QT. You win when all the real mafia are dead, and you equal or outnumber all players not “dead” either actually or by your fake gun.
Slam I'll help with this. But, I'm not saying I condone. We will see how it goes. Hapa it's fine. It's gonna be fun actually! You watch! Fun for who, though? Yourself?
DISCLAIMER: not a real convo. Game flavah sson you see not with the eyes of CHUPA-
SLAM has been SLAMMED!
Hapa has more or less assumed control! Slam is not dead though. Maybe he will be back.
Days are 48 hours long. However, if a majority vote is reached before the 24 hour deadline, a lynch will commence. Nights are 24 hours.
On November 13 2020 17:58 GreYMisT wrote: Vivax, Artanis, one of you town? Join me, and together we shall get our revenge on scum for ever daring to stand against us.
Of course I'm town! I'm working with polls, and I'm Coag-certified.
On November 13 2020 17:58 GreYMisT wrote: Vivax, Artanis, one of you town? Join me, and together we shall get our revenge on scum for ever daring to stand against us.
Revenge is cold, like ice cream and I love love love ice cream
I'm glad we agree. So, let's discuss imaginary roles?
I'm the Poll Worker. Each day, I may create as many polls as I wish. I send in to the hosts what I imagine the results will be. If they are off by a margin of 10% or less, I may ##Stuff ballots in order to change it to the outcome I desire. If this changes the winner of a poll at least three times, I become mayor and decide the lynch.
On November 13 2020 17:58 GreYMisT wrote: Vivax, Artanis, one of you town? Join me, and together we shall get our revenge on scum for ever daring to stand against us.
Revenge is cold, like ice cream and I love love love ice cream
Isn't it way too cold in Finland to have ice cream?
You are the dogo of christmas, you are a lazy christmas helper since all you want is to sleep and eat but you love your family so much you use once per game any of this abilities to protect the gifts from the grinch and any other evil doers.
Sniffing the truth: Once per game you can select a post and lie detect it. Carol Bark: Once per game you can select and doc one player during the night. Your bark will scare anyone! Poo of Justice: Once per game you can poo close to one player, that will make the selected player actions fail.
On November 13 2020 17:58 GreYMisT wrote: Vivax, Artanis, one of you town? Join me, and together we shall get our revenge on scum for ever daring to stand against us.
Revenge is cold, like ice cream and I love love love ice cream
Isn't it way too cold in Finland to have ice cream?
Lmaoooooo it is not that cold and there is ice cream all year around. I am waiting for the snow tho, I want to feel the christmas spirit.
On November 14 2020 00:14 CopCake wrote: slow game is slow
But will the americans save it?
At the earliest time zone here it is 7:23, so hopefully we will have everyone up soon.
I’ll admit it’s hard for me to think about how to start day one conversation without a “button” or “device” or “database” for town to discuss. I guess just talking will do the trick.
So copcake! It’s been a while! Didn’t realize you were Number 4. Who in this game would you say you can read the best and who would you say you have the hardest time with.
I will personally say I have seen many of Vivax’s games as scum and mafia and I think I can get a good handle on him. I sometimes have a hard time with Artanis because he tends to joke around a bit, which I have done as mafia before. I have not played with Shock or Ever that I am aware of. I don’t think I have played with you either, but I have of course hosted you.
You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
I must have been thinking of Cakepie then.
So that would leave me as the one you are most worried about reading then?
Tangentially someone could take offense to that claim. Obviously, I am referring to this game in particular; people are free to be ignorant of evil elsewhere!
On November 14 2020 00:14 CopCake wrote: slow game is slow
But will the americans save it?
At the earliest time zone here it is 7:23, so hopefully we will have everyone up soon.
I’ll admit it’s hard for me to think about how to start day one conversation without a “button” or “device” or “database” for town to discuss. I guess just talking will do the trick.
So copcake! It’s been a while! Didn’t realize you were Number 4. Who in this game would you say you can read the best and who would you say you have the hardest time with.
I will personally say I have seen many of Vivax’s games as scum and mafia and I think I can get a good handle on him. I sometimes have a hard time with Artanis because he tends to joke around a bit, which I have done as mafia before. I have not played with Shock or Ever that I am aware of. I don’t think I have played with you either, but I have of course hosted you.
How exactly does me joking around make it more difficult for you to read me?
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
I have absolutely no memory of this game o.o do you know when it was?
On November 14 2020 00:14 CopCake wrote: slow game is slow
But will the americans save it?
At the earliest time zone here it is 7:23, so hopefully we will have everyone up soon.
I’ll admit it’s hard for me to think about how to start day one conversation without a “button” or “device” or “database” for town to discuss. I guess just talking will do the trick.
So copcake! It’s been a while! Didn’t realize you were Number 4. Who in this game would you say you can read the best and who would you say you have the hardest time with.
I will personally say I have seen many of Vivax’s games as scum and mafia and I think I can get a good handle on him. I sometimes have a hard time with Artanis because he tends to joke around a bit, which I have done as mafia before. I have not played with Shock or Ever that I am aware of. I don’t think I have played with you either, but I have of course hosted you.
How exactly does me joking around make it more difficult for you to read me?
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
I have absolutely no memory of this game o.o do you know when it was?
Mainly I remember in the last game I played with you you hydras with rsoul and I think I read you as mafia in that game. I think it’s just that it’s easy to hide behind humor, and it’s something town and mafia can do. It’s kinda a signal vs noise issue if that makes sense
On November 14 2020 00:14 CopCake wrote: slow game is slow
But will the americans save it?
At the earliest time zone here it is 7:23, so hopefully we will have everyone up soon.
I’ll admit it’s hard for me to think about how to start day one conversation without a “button” or “device” or “database” for town to discuss. I guess just talking will do the trick.
So copcake! It’s been a while! Didn’t realize you were Number 4. Who in this game would you say you can read the best and who would you say you have the hardest time with.
I will personally say I have seen many of Vivax’s games as scum and mafia and I think I can get a good handle on him. I sometimes have a hard time with Artanis because he tends to joke around a bit, which I have done as mafia before. I have not played with Shock or Ever that I am aware of. I don’t think I have played with you either, but I have of course hosted you.
How exactly does me joking around make it more difficult for you to read me?
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
I have absolutely no memory of this game o.o do you know when it was?
Mainly I remember in the last game I played with you you hydras with rsoul and I think I read you as mafia in that game. I think it’s just that it’s easy to hide behind humor, and it’s something town and mafia can do. It’s kinda a signal vs noise issue if that makes sense
You are the dogo of christmas, you are a lazy christmas helper since all you want is to sleep and eat but you love your family so much you use once per game any of this abilities to protect the gifts from the grinch and any other evil doers.
Sniffing the truth: Once per game you can select a post and lie detect it. Carol Bark: Once per game you can select and doc one player during the night. Your bark will scare anyone! Poo of Justice: Once per game you can poo close to one player, that will make the selected player actions fail.
Dogs poop more frequently than once per 3-4 days, and definitely more frequently near players to annoy them.
On November 14 2020 00:14 CopCake wrote: slow game is slow
But will the americans save it?
At the earliest time zone here it is 7:23, so hopefully we will have everyone up soon.
I’ll admit it’s hard for me to think about how to start day one conversation without a “button” or “device” or “database” for town to discuss. I guess just talking will do the trick.
So copcake! It’s been a while! Didn’t realize you were Number 4. Who in this game would you say you can read the best and who would you say you have the hardest time with.
I will personally say I have seen many of Vivax’s games as scum and mafia and I think I can get a good handle on him. I sometimes have a hard time with Artanis because he tends to joke around a bit, which I have done as mafia before. I have not played with Shock or Ever that I am aware of. I don’t think I have played with you either, but I have of course hosted you.
How exactly does me joking around make it more difficult for you to read me?
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
I have absolutely no memory of this game o.o do you know when it was?
You made rsoultin a passport picture with a dog wearing a russian hat, that is why i never forget.
On November 14 2020 00:14 CopCake wrote: slow game is slow
But will the americans save it?
At the earliest time zone here it is 7:23, so hopefully we will have everyone up soon.
I’ll admit it’s hard for me to think about how to start day one conversation without a “button” or “device” or “database” for town to discuss. I guess just talking will do the trick.
So copcake! It’s been a while! Didn’t realize you were Number 4. Who in this game would you say you can read the best and who would you say you have the hardest time with.
I will personally say I have seen many of Vivax’s games as scum and mafia and I think I can get a good handle on him. I sometimes have a hard time with Artanis because he tends to joke around a bit, which I have done as mafia before. I have not played with Shock or Ever that I am aware of. I don’t think I have played with you either, but I have of course hosted you.
How exactly does me joking around make it more difficult for you to read me?
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
I have absolutely no memory of this game o.o do you know when it was?
You made rsoultin a passport picture with a dog wearing a russian hat, that is why i never forget.
I'm trying to find it but drawing a blank from the TL Mafia database. Was it a game all three of us played in?
On November 14 2020 00:56 CopCake wrote: You haven't hosted me if I remember correctly lol. I think Shockey is the easiest pick for me to read.
I think second would be Vivax because is the second person I have played the most from the list and I know this will piss some people off but "He is a veteran and if he doesn't die early game you should suspect him" kind of person. But I don't rely only on this, I think I am a "tone reader" or "soul reader"
I know Artanis but the last game I remember him he was mafia and wrote shit like "shdshkaljvh shhkafk" so people believed that mafia targeted him and made him say shit like that.
I was cop with Ever and it was insane!!!! (Hydra) but I don't think I have seen her to be mafia.
And myself as mafia?
Muahahahahahahaha Ask Shockey about it >:D
Thought I remembered hosting you. You were in PYP Intriguing as mafia.
Days are 48 hours long. However, if a majority vote is reached before the 24 hour deadline
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Classic Alakaslam, needlessly vague and confusing
So that means, technically there is a deadline every 24 hours at 06:30 GMT (+00:00) another mistake not 18:30 GMT (+00:00) (I’ll fix the daypost). But, if there is no majority, y’all get the full day to decide; another 24 hours and therefore a normal 48 hour day.
Days are 48 hours long. However, if a majority vote is reached before the 24 hour deadline
?
Classic Alakaslam, needlessly vague and confusing
So that means, technically there is a deadline every 24 hours at 06:30 GMT (+00:00) another mistake not 18:30 GMT (+00:00) (I’ll fix the daypost). But, if there is no majority, y’all get the full day to decide; another 24 hours and therefore a normal 48 hour day.
On November 13 2020 17:58 GreYMisT wrote: Vivax, Artanis, one of you town? Join me, and together we shall get our revenge on scum for ever daring to stand against us.
Of course I'm town! I'm working with polls, and I'm Coag-certified.
100% mafia. I'm splitting wood already. Only Coag can use Coag town seal. Obviously scum. :3
On November 14 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote: Artanis encrypted a soft scum claim. There's a baby up in the thread and he posted a seal ergo he posted a baby seal.
Ggnore
Damn you got me, oh well mind as well full claim then ##nuke Vivax
You were the host in this one, but Idk why I remember you to be write only dkjshflgwjqfjewq like shit (not making sentences) in a game, maybe it was HF.
I also saw I have played with Ruxxar before ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my memory is too bad with the name lmaooooo
On November 14 2020 04:00 CopCake wrote: Shockey how town are you????
Btw Grey I don't remember that game it was probably that season in which I rolled mafia so many times together that I got destroyed mentally.
I enjoy being mafia A LOT but too many times in a row is a no no.
I'm town trust me.
No comma between 'town' and 'trust', yet perfect punctuation other than that? There's nothing town about you, buddy.
On November 14 2020 04:13 CopCake wrote:
You were the host in this one, but Idk why I remember you to be write only dkjshflgwjqfjewq like shit (not making sentences) in a game, maybe it was HF.
I also saw I have played with Ruxxar before ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my memory is too bad with the name lmaooooo
I did just make Yamato have to talk like a rabbit in the Aperture game that recently finished, maybe that's why it's in your head?
On November 14 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote: Artanis encrypted a soft scum claim. There's a baby up in the thread and he posted a seal ergo he posted a baby seal.
Ggnore
Damn you got me, oh well mind as well full claim then ##nuke Vivax
Was a good effort but nothing my association addled paranoid mind wouldn't see right through.
Blue font is also reserved for moderators and termination by moderation has been requested.
You were the host in this one, but Idk why I remember you to be write only dkjshflgwjqfjewq like shit (not making sentences) in a game, maybe it was HF.
I also saw I have played with Ruxxar before ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my memory is too bad with the name lmaooooo
I did just make Yamato have to talk like a rabbit in the Aperture game that recently finished, maybe that's why it's in your head?
No, that's the second time (last game).
The first time I saw it was with a game with you, never forget because mafia got away with it and town foolish believed it. I found awesome even if we lost.
On November 14 2020 04:00 CopCake wrote: Shockey how town are you????
Btw Grey I don't remember that game it was probably that season in which I rolled mafia so many times together that I got destroyed mentally.
I enjoy being mafia A LOT but too many times in a row is a no no.
I'm town trust me.
No comma between 'town' and 'trust', yet perfect punctuation other than that? There's nothing town about you, buddy.
On November 14 2020 04:13 CopCake wrote:
You were the host in this one, but Idk why I remember you to be write only dkjshflgwjqfjewq like shit (not making sentences) in a game, maybe it was HF.
I also saw I have played with Ruxxar before ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my memory is too bad with the name lmaooooo
I did just make Yamato have to talk like a rabbit in the Aperture game that recently finished, maybe that's why it's in your head?
No, that's the second time (last game).
The first time I saw it was with a game with you, never forget because mafia got away with it and town foolish believed it. I found awesome even if we lost.
Perhaps this is mafia induced delusion in your head?
On November 14 2020 04:11 Eversince wrote: Thought on cakes claim?
You have any ideas? I have not played with you either, so now that you are here can you talk about your experience with the other players here? Who concerns you the most and who do you buddy with a lot?
On November 14 2020 04:00 CopCake wrote: Shockey how town are you????
Btw Grey I don't remember that game it was probably that season in which I rolled mafia so many times together that I got destroyed mentally.
I enjoy being mafia A LOT but too many times in a row is a no no.
I'm town trust me.
No comma between 'town' and 'trust', yet perfect punctuation other than that? There's nothing town about you, buddy.
On November 14 2020 04:13 CopCake wrote:
You were the host in this one, but Idk why I remember you to be write only dkjshflgwjqfjewq like shit (not making sentences) in a game, maybe it was HF.
I also saw I have played with Ruxxar before ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my memory is too bad with the name lmaooooo
I did just make Yamato have to talk like a rabbit in the Aperture game that recently finished, maybe that's why it's in your head?
No, that's the second time (last game).
The first time I saw it was with a game with you, never forget because mafia got away with it and town foolish believed it. I found awesome even if we lost.
Perhaps this is mafia induced delusion in your head?
Idk, we lost that game terribly believing the person who wrote "fshff", it looked like "mafia doesn't want that person to participate"
On November 14 2020 04:11 Eversince wrote: Thought on cakes claim?
You have any ideas? I have not played with you either, so now that you are here can you talk about your experience with the other players here? Who concerns you the most and who do you buddy with a lot?
Sure honey
Vivax is underwhelming. Par the course for his usual start. Small game might lead to bias problems. Cake isn't swinging like she did when we hydra. But game is early. The 'fale claim' seemed to me like softing tracker or possible JK. Shock is just meh to me. He has opinions. Why he isn't vocalize yet is his own reasons.
I'm in need of conversation though or I will be snoozing on my phone.
On November 14 2020 04:11 Eversince wrote: Thought on cakes claim?
You have any ideas? I have not played with you either, so now that you are here can you talk about your experience with the other players here? Who concerns you the most and who do you buddy with a lot?
Sure honey
Vivax is underwhelming. Par the course for his usual start. Small game might lead to bias problems. Cake isn't swinging like she did when we hydra. But game is early. The 'fale claim' seemed to me like softing tracker or possible JK. Shock is just meh to me. He has opinions. Why he isn't vocalize yet is his own reasons.
I'm in need of conversation though or I will be snoozing on my phone.
On November 14 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote: Artanis encrypted a soft scum claim. There's a baby up in the thread and he posted a seal ergo he posted a baby seal.
Ggnore
Damn you got me, oh well mind as well full claim then ##nuke Vivax
Was a good effort but nothing my association addled paranoid mind wouldn't see right through.
Blue font is also reserved for moderators and termination by moderation has been requested.
Glory to Arstotzka.
I’m not responsible enough to catch shit like this!
On November 14 2020 04:48 CopCake wrote: Wait, Vivax was serious about it?
I'm snitching what I can.
Already got Arty to jail once.
What makes you believe Artanis is mafia?
What do you think of grey and ever?
I'm not really taking posts at face value yet, except maybe yours because you seem to be in the mindset.
Would probably do a filter dive and look for a first awkward attempt by someone at trying to look like he means business. Then decide how likely it is that it makes them mafia.
On November 14 2020 05:27 Vivax wrote: Gun to my head I'd probably murder Artanis and Grey. As a welcome back gift (but no, really because I think they might be scum).
Rest of the game seems too chill to be mafia atm.
That’s not very nice!
Trying and reading, just have one hand at the moment.
Sounds like you think 2 scum is likely? I agree. Or 1 scum and 1 3p
On November 14 2020 05:27 Vivax wrote: Gun to my head I'd probably murder Artanis and Grey. As a welcome back gift (but no, really because I think they might be scum).
Rest of the game seems too chill to be mafia atm.
Really not sure how most of the thread is chiller than me tbh. Guess I'm just too hot to handle. Might be that nuke in my back garden heading for you shortly.
On November 14 2020 05:27 Vivax wrote: Gun to my head I'd probably murder Artanis and Grey. As a welcome back gift (but no, really because I think they might be scum).
Rest of the game seems too chill to be mafia atm.
Really not sure how most of the thread is chiller than me tbh. Guess I'm just too hot to handle. Might be that nuke in my back garden heading for you shortly.
On the outside you may think you look placid, but my piercing gaze sees right through to your squirming inner life.
On November 14 2020 05:27 Vivax wrote: Gun to my head I'd probably murder Artanis and Grey. As a welcome back gift (but no, really because I think they might be scum).
Rest of the game seems too chill to be mafia atm.
Really not sure how most of the thread is chiller than me tbh. Guess I'm just too hot to handle. Might be that nuke in my back garden heading for you shortly.
On the outside you may think you look placid, but my piercing gaze sees right through to your squirming inner life.
More like reminiscing. I remember the first time we played voice mafia. I'd only played with you on TL mafia and knew you as a crazy, aggressive dude. I nuked you and the first thing you said was something along the lines of: "I'd like to thank my mother for giving birth to me."
It was glorious and completely different from what I expected :D
More like reminiscing. I remember the first time we played voice mafia. I'd only played with you on TL mafia and knew you as a crazy, aggressive dude. I nuked you and the first thing you said was something along the lines of: "I'd like to thank my mother for giving birth to me."
It was glorious and completely different from what I expected :D
I've grown better at hid...handling the craziness. And some boldness was required in the bigger games if you wanted to get something done.
Ok! serious time. anyone can feel free to ask me anything.
I feel pretty good about CopCake, she seemed like she was trying to get some stuff done when the thread was being silly. I feel decent about Vivax. Artanis leans townie to me as well.
Can't really read Shock and Ever. My intuition is telling me that at least one is mafia.
I legitimately dreamt Copcake made a massive case on me and I OMGUSed her, then I check the thread and there's only 3 new posts. Not sure how I feel about this tbh.
On November 14 2020 13:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: No baby today. Yet.
I hope labor isn’t too hard on your wife for this long... my wife had a long labor but it was in a good hospital and she had an epidural put in to help with the pain.
On November 14 2020 16:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I legitimately dreamt Copcake made a massive case on me and I OMGUSed her, then I check the thread and there's only 3 new posts. Not sure how I feel about this tbh.
You are that happy to see me? Maybe you believed I was like rayn.
On a side note, I feel bad my christmas plant is dying I would call myself mafia just for that.
And so far I think that Grey is mega town, that is my only strong lead of town, I want to lynch Shockey.
On November 14 2020 08:21 GreYMisT wrote: Ok! serious time. anyone can feel free to ask me anything.
I feel pretty good about CopCake, she seemed like she was trying to get some stuff done when the thread was being silly. I feel decent about Vivax. Artanis leans townie to me as well.
Can't really read Shock and Ever. My intuition is telling me that at least one is mafia.
On November 14 2020 16:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I legitimately dreamt Copcake made a massive case on me and I OMGUSed her, then I check the thread and there's only 3 new posts. Not sure how I feel about this tbh.
You are that happy to see me? Maybe you believed I was like rayn.
On a side note, I feel bad my christmas plant is dying I would call myself mafia just for that.
And so far I think that Grey is mega town, that is my only strong lead of town, I want to lynch Shockey.
Haha we'll call it that. What makes you feel good about Grey?
Both you and Vivax do not appear to be trying to hide and you have engaged multiple people. In my mind the best cues on day 1 are to look at who is speaking to who. Town players are not afraid to talk to everyone and I see that in you, cop, and vivax’s play.
On November 14 2020 17:37 CopCake wrote: I just learned that if I spill water on the leaves they are going to fall. The water needs to go directly to the ground.
Explains a lot about the leaves I just took out.
After some time do you still have Artanis and Shock as you scum reads? I’d be willing to lynch Shock as things stand.
I think we need to give ourselves the full 48 hour day though.
On November 14 2020 17:37 CopCake wrote: I just learned that if I spill water on the leaves they are going to fall. The water needs to go directly to the ground.
Explains a lot about the leaves I just took out.
After some time do you still have Artanis and Shock as you scum reads? I’d be willing to lynch Shock as things stand.
I think we need to give ourselves the full 48 hour day though.
Shock still the same, there is something odd on him, Artanis I feel better specially about his dream, doubt mafia would share something like that, if he was mafia he wouldn't share something like that.
On November 14 2020 17:37 CopCake wrote: I just learned that if I spill water on the leaves they are going to fall. The water needs to go directly to the ground.
Explains a lot about the leaves I just took out.
After some time do you still have Artanis and Shock as you scum reads? I’d be willing to lynch Shock as things stand.
I think we need to give ourselves the full 48 hour day though.
Shock still the same, there is something odd on him, Artanis I feel better specially about his dream, doubt mafia would share something like that, if he was mafia he wouldn't share something like that.
On November 14 2020 16:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I legitimately dreamt Copcake made a massive case on me and I OMGUSed her, then I check the thread and there's only 3 new posts. Not sure how I feel about this tbh.
Well the thing with ever is that she said that she wanted people to talk to her and she faded away, like if she didn't care.
So yeah, shockey and her are my biggest scum reads.
Vivax seems town, or at least looks like he is not pulling an agenda but I feel "strange", weird that we are having the same thinking process (Artanis, etc) and Idk, it is aghhhhhhh so strange because we tend to fight.
Its already faded from my memory, though I wouldnt want that to be the reason people townread me anyway -_-
What are the reasons you consider people should town read you?
Well I wouldn't want to do your work for you do I? Finding the reasons would be alignment indicative for others to do on me, but a waste of time for me to do on myself.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
I could see it. I think you're town for your fluid read on me (first scumreading me, then changing that at the drop of a hat with my dream post which as scum you don't really have a reason for) and your attempt to engage with people in the thread.
I think Grey is town for similar reasons and being the first one to speak against the 'I want to lynch Artanis' train that was going on for a bit. Not as strong on it as you are as he hasn't told me why he wants to lynch Shockeyy yet.
I've learned not to read Vivax until after Day 1. As scum he can be active the first day, then he tends to fall off. His change of heart on me reads kinda townie-ish maybe? It depends on if the most likely alternative lynch is scum. If Shockeyy is scum I'm actually kinda sus of Vivax since he inquired to Grey about Eversince rather than Shockeyy, while he hadn't expanded on either mafia-ish read yet.
Shockeyy has practically no content, and that which is out there says absolutely nothing. As such, I don't know if it's because he's mafia and he doesn't like playing mafia, or if he's busy irl. He's pure null for me, which makes him more likely mafia due to other players having town leans.
Eversince has checked in once and I was not impressed.
On November 14 2020 04:11 Eversince wrote: Thought on cakes claim?
Shows she's not really reading the thread; it was clear it was a fakeclaim given my earlier fakeclaim.
On November 14 2020 04:11 Eversince wrote: Thought on cakes claim?
You have any ideas? I have not played with you either, so now that you are here can you talk about your experience with the other players here? Who concerns you the most and who do you buddy with a lot?
Sure honey
Vivax is underwhelming. Par the course for his usual start. Small game might lead to bias problems. Cake isn't swinging like she did when we hydra. But game is early. The 'fale claim' seemed to me like softing tracker or possible JK. Shock is just meh to me. He has opinions. Why he isn't vocalize yet is his own reasons.
I'm in need of conversation though or I will be snoozing on my phone.
Only post she's made with reads. "Vivax doing poorly, which is normal for him."..? In my experience, the early game is usually his best part as either alignment. She could have a different experience, but I'm not sure what the point of this read is. Reads on Cake and Shockeyy are very waffly. She's quantifying everything as 'but game is early', 'small game', 'has his own reasons'. It feels to me like she's trying to excuse her reads as being weak, when... of course they will be. It's the start of the game.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Both busy so they have a passable excuse.
Meanwhile with the lockdown nr 2 imminent here it seems like I'll have time on my hands.
Tbf you saw us as hydra and she said she would be busy yet she posted a lot. You should know.
Shockey is kinda understandable coz baby (This is also for you Artanis, shockey is going to be a dad today or tomorrow) yet his “attitude” is the one I am questioning aside from his absence.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Both busy so they have a passable excuse.
Meanwhile with the lockdown nr 2 imminent here it seems like I'll have time on my hands.
Tbf you saw us as hydra and she said she would be busy yet she posted a lot. You should know.
Shockey is kinda understandable coz baby (This is also for you Artanis, shockey is going to be a dad today or tomorrow) yet his “attitude” is the one I am questioning aside from his absence.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Didn't give up, idk how you can make me out as mafia when I've barely played. You know if I'm mafia, I carry this shit on my back if needed. I'm town, there's more town, I'm just giving town breathing room,
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Didn't give up, idk how you can make me out as mafia when I've barely played. You know if I'm mafia, I carry this shit on my back if needed. I'm town, there's more town, I'm just giving town breathing room,
The issue is we don’t have evidence to the contrary.
What do you think about Ever and her entrance to the thread.
On November 15 2020 05:12 Vivax wrote: Also isn't this D1 mylo.
If the setup is like I assume then 4v2 mislynch = 3v2 they shoot and town power roles cant help anything then scum win.
If we no Lynch we can enter day 2 with 3v2. So yes, mislynch here likely loses us the game.
If setup 1 scum 1 3p then mislynch here leads to 3v1v1, mafia worst case shoot town 2v1v1 meaning we do not lose.
Vivax, I did not see it before, but I think no-lynching might be correct here. And if town has any KP roles that can choose not to fire, we probably need to refrain from that as well do you think?
With activity levels of our collective top suspects I think this might be the right call.
For the record, I recognize this is a lot of "ifs" in a self proclaimed bastard-like setup, but I have to assume the setup is at least somewhat regular until proven otherwise because we just can't do anything assuming everyone is town or whatnot.
I personally put my money on this being 1 mafia 1 3p because thats the setup I would probably make. But, I am not willing to bet the game on that.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Didn't give up, idk how you can make me out as mafia when I've barely played. You know if I'm mafia, I carry this shit on my back if needed. I'm town, there's more town, I'm just giving town breathing room,
The issue is we don’t have evidence to the contrary.
What do you think about Ever and her entrance to the thread.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Didn't give up, idk how you can make me out as mafia when I've barely played. You know if I'm mafia, I carry this shit on my back if needed. I'm town, there's more town, I'm just giving town breathing room,
I can do it because I can do it as easy as that. And yeah you can carry this shit going mia and letting the town to kill each other. That's generally your scum play besides the "robotic" and tone things.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Didn't give up, idk how you can make me out as mafia when I've barely played. You know if I'm mafia, I carry this shit on my back if needed. I'm town, there's more town, I'm just giving town breathing room,
The issue is we don’t have evidence to the contrary.
What do you think about Ever and her entrance to the thread.
Idk, it’s seems like not enough to make a good thought. I think it’s null for me. I’m willing to no lynch today as well. Her entrance does seem like standard mafia busy entrance, but I also did the same and I know I’m 100% certified town.
On November 15 2020 03:32 CopCake wrote: Rip the game
for some reason I kinda feel it is shockey and ever and they just gave up
Didn't give up, idk how you can make me out as mafia when I've barely played. You know if I'm mafia, I carry this shit on my back if needed. I'm town, there's more town, I'm just giving town breathing room,
I can do it because I can do it as easy as that. And yeah you can carry this shit going mia and letting the town to kill each other. That's generally your scum play besides the "robotic" and tone things.
You can't blame for that.
I don’t want to go down this route of screaming mafia at each other either. Mafia would love it.
On November 15 2020 05:11 Vivax wrote: I'm kinda reluctant to vote, don't feel any committment to my reads.
I'm sort of okay just sheeping cop here.
THIS IS THE MOST OUT OF CHARACTER POST EVER MADE IN ALL MAFIA GAMES.
Low self esteem or scum?
Not low self esteem but you are generally mean to me.
I can assure you that any animosity stays in the game it was generated in. This game is way too chill so far to get my fingers in motion much about anything.
Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.
Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much. Overall I agree.
Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.
Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.
Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.
I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.
I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote: In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.
Ok.
Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot. Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.
Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?
No Lynch happened. It is now N1! Pm any actions to both myself and Hapahauli plz don’t forget do it or the result will just be no action kthxbye gonna go dri- ah, sleep
T A K E N O T I C E T H A N K S
& S T U F F H I D D E N I P R O M I S E T H A N K S again
On November 15 2020 16:06 Eversince wrote: @host/ co-host can you put time stamp in count please? I have wet noodles for brains sometime. Time converting is a pain .
@Shock that leads me back to where I was.
I'm have to check out for a while. Hopefully some more check in. My day is about to be real more busy. I'll try checking in when I can.
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote: On side notes.
Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.
Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much. Overall I agree.
Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.
Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.
Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.
I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.
I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
I'm not really giving up my voice as town and choosing no lynch.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
I'm not really giving up my voice as town and choosing no lynch.
Even if it wasn’t mylo, mislynching a townie very rarely gives any good information anyway. Especially in a game like this, mafia would have very little at stake in backing that lynch.
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote: On side notes.
Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.
Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much. Overall I agree.
Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.
Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.
Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.
I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.
I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..
This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote: In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.
Ok.
Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot. Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.
Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?
If you had to Lynch who would be?
I am confused a little bit with this, we don't know if it is two mafia or one mafia one third party.
Btw this is a general question for everyone.
IF there is one mafia and one third party... ¿Isn't it the same as two mafia in different groups pretty much?
On November 15 2020 14:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: Well Vivax seems to be getting nuked by Artanis, whatever that means.
Second person I'm kinda weary about is Cop due to how much she tries to get me lynched pretty quickly.
Cop just check my first post with you, it will only tell you truth if you're telling the truth about your role.
Quickly not, just gave my opinion, unlike ever i don't think you are being fluffy, but remember also that in the past I have misslynched you a lot as town. But don't worry you are probably now the third person I find scummy now.
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote: On side notes.
Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.
Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much. Overall I agree.
Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.
Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.
Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.
I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.
I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..
This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.
Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?
Because Vivax has a lot of post they say not many things. I have less time to play which will cause problems for me. Obvious reasons unless I'm playing with people that know my activity is always nia. Not the case.
The point of the game is to Lynch scum. Check basically any game I've ever played. I never advocate no lynch. Kill scum. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong. Doing nothing doesn't sit right.
Conclusion is if it's going to be difficult for town to decide my alignment.. We lynch into the person I think is most scummy and the '?' (Me). Hopefully that makes sense.
As for Shock, on catching up it felt like he was absent, then around but not saying anything. Granted I did enjoy our conversation earlier. Re stating what I said before though. I feel better on Vivax still being a better lynch. -> so I say 'hmm.. I feel like you could be a fox eyeballing my hens, let me investigate this a little. So I did :p.
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote: In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.
Ok.
Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot. Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.
Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?
If you had to Lynch who would be?
I am confused a little bit with this, we don't know if it is two mafia or one mafia one third party.
Btw this is a general question for everyone.
IF there is one mafia and one third party... ¿Isn't it the same as two mafia in different groups pretty much?
Depends.. If 3p can win with town or their own win con. Makes it swing. But I'm terrible at game balance so I'll leave that question for people smarter than me..
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote: On side notes.
Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.
Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much. Overall I agree.
Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.
Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.
Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.
I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.
I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..
This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.
Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?
Because Vivax has a lot of post they say not many things. I have less time to play which will cause problems for me. Obvious reasons unless I'm playing with people that know my activity is always nia. Not the case.
The point of the game is to Lynch scum. Check basically any game I've ever played. I never advocate no lynch. Kill scum. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong. Doing nothing doesn't sit right.
Conclusion is if it's going to be difficult for town to decide my alignment.. We lynch into the person I think is most scummy and the '?' (Me). Hopefully that makes sense.
As for Shock, on catching up it felt like he was absent, then around but not saying anything. Granted I did enjoy our conversation earlier. Re stating what I said before though. I feel better on Vivax still being a better lynch. -> so I say 'hmm.. I feel like you could be a fox eyeballing my hens, let me investigate this a little. So I did :p.
But when we were hydra together we sticked to Monadel's plan of not lynching because town loses more and it is a game as small as this.
Cake hun you know that's only because I let you make executive decisions basically all game. I even said after Rayn died he'd of been passed for no lynching when we knew we had hit mafia 95%.
On November 16 2020 00:01 CopCake wrote: That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.
The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.
Yes which is my poiby. Even if we weren't I still would pushed for a Lynch between a C.f. fight. But different scenarios. I'm not sure what this conversation is supposed to go from here though..
I don't think not lynching is a good play. Very few exceptions to this for me.
On November 16 2020 00:01 CopCake wrote: That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.
The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.
Yes which is my poiby. Even if we weren't I still would pushed for a Lynch between a C.f. fight. But different scenarios. I'm not sure what this conversation is supposed to go from here though..
I don't think not lynching is a good play. Very few exceptions to this for me.
Why is me understanding the fact I'm be hard to read(always but more so when I'm pressed for time). It seemed like most were concerned already on me. I said what I thought, then said what I think was towns best option was?
On November 16 2020 00:01 Vivax wrote: EBWOP: If 3p, it would exist alongside two scum (and make town sort of pointless?)
I think we just need to assume scum exist and it’s possible for town to win. Further discussion of setup and balance only serves to dilute the thread and help scum.
Vivax, pretend you have a gun. Who do you shoot? Who would you save?
On November 16 2020 00:12 Eversince wrote: Why is me understanding the fact I'm be hard to read(always but more so when I'm pressed for time). It seemed like most were concerned already on me. I said what I thought, then said what I think was towns best option was?
I don't particularly like the vibes from this post btw (it reads sort of apologetic) and tone is sort of off for Ever who tends to appear very carefree as town usually.
On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
I concur, Ever’s posts seem to restate things already posted, flip flop, or don’t say anything. She hasn’t taken a firm stance that she can be nailed to later. These are all classic mafia tells.
On November 16 2020 00:12 Eversince wrote: Why is me understanding the fact I'm be hard to read(always but more so when I'm pressed for time). It seemed like most were concerned already on me. I said what I thought, then said what I think was towns best option was?
I don't particularly like the vibes from this post btw (it reads sort of apologetic) and tone is sort of off for Ever who tends to appear very carefree as town usually.
Im just tired r.r.. You know my occupation. Try running it from across ocean..
On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
I’ll own that failure. However, in the games I play, and indeed in post games of my themed setups, I often encourage players to try to play classic mafia and ignore setup speculation, as it is very easy for mafia to participate in this and look townie. So I would argue that my non analysis of the setup is irrelevant.
I would be very interested to hear from Artanis today. We have some more data from other players. I would be especially interested in hearing his thoughts on the post I quoted from Ever, and Vivax and Copcake’s interaction regarding sheeping.
I have some doubts on Artanis because he tends to be more spammy.
I'd pit Ever and Artanis against each other in a MMA octahedron tomorrow fully expecting Ever to win because farm work makes you ripped and I don't think a "get ripped" on a townie seal means a whole lot except for meek boasting.
On November 16 2020 00:39 Eversince wrote: And Grey just validated my point. Im ? So we should of done that last cycle.
List off what I've done to further mafia agenda?
What's mafia agenda in this game? Considering the low activity and very relaxed early game I expected at least a bit of fooling around and less of a watch and wait approach. And in the I'm a cop game you and cop fooled around a lot
Isn't it always the same? Discord, manipulation, kill town??
I've admittedly not done much this game. Trying my bestest but there is the other edge of the knife. I have little to work with. I just go through saying 'does this advanced game?' Sadly the amount of nai post are like 1/3 of the game. More so early on d1 when I reread and posted my thoughts..
On November 16 2020 01:07 CopCake wrote: Why do you think Vivax is mafia Ever?
He's coasting. The vivax I know is usually weak d1. He would of got pass for that. But he's also very smart. Which is exactly why I usually pass. He was here. He was interacting. He said 0 useful things.
Now we are talking about past games and rl concerns. While I do love to do this, it doesn't help me find mafia at all..
On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
I’ll own that failure. However, in the games I play, and indeed in post games of my themed setups, I often encourage players to try to play classic mafia and ignore setup speculation, as it is very easy for mafia to participate in this and look townie. So I would argue that my non analysis of the setup is irrelevant.
I would be very interested to hear from Artanis today. We have some more data from other players. I would be especially interested in hearing his thoughts on the post I quoted from Ever, and Vivax and Copcake’s interaction regarding sheeping.
Honestly the last 2 pages really havent felt that helpful to me. Vivax feels more townie to me than before due to his usual tin foil hatting right after finding a reason to townread me. Only caveat I have on him is completely ignoring Shockeyy in the entire game despite him having been a topic, but he's my second strongest townread next to Cop at this point.
Ever's posting has not impacted my reading on her much. I can see her believing Vivax is mafia and follow her reasoning a bit, but it all feels forced out due to pressure rather than having an innate desire to do something.
On November 15 2020 14:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: Well Vivax seems to be getting nuked by Artanis, whatever that means.
Second person I'm kinda weary about is Cop due to how much she tries to get me lynched pretty quickly.
Cop just check my first post with you, it will only tell you truth if you're telling the truth about your role.
This post proves to me shockey isnt reading the thread critically. Initially was gonna say I think it makes him more likely town cause surely this would be discussed in a scum qt, but then realized it might be too obvious to even bring up in there. Would also make sense with Ever since she seems to be out of the loop as well.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
Don't cry wolf at me. I obviously caught up. Was I 'out of the loop'? Yes. I admitted as much. I still giving up sleep to try and help. Am I mafia for it? Give me bullet points.. I must be dense..
My thoughts on literally every single player are in the game is in filter. If you want to expand on them I encourage you to do so.
Disclaimer: I'm half drunk and super tired. On that note.. I think I'll make a bath with another glass of scotch.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
Do you believe everything you said here, Grey?
I may not have phrased it appropriately but I’ll stand by it. I do not see the town motiviation behind that statement, especially in a game this small.
Less than 12 hours remain of N01 lol at my N0 homboii is tired, my daughter is so chill though. I’m loving this stage, hope to find a way to cheer my wife on though, she has borne the brunt of this time.
You're still trading a townie for information. You're condemning a townie to die because none of you have the guts to walk that tight rope. You're willing to sacrifice the one time we can be wrong, because you're scared.
On November 16 2020 04:46 Eversince wrote: You're still trading a townie for information. You're condemning a townie to die because none of you have the guts to walk that tight rope. You're willing to sacrifice the one time we can be wrong, because you're scared.
I'm not. Who needs to die?
Sacrificing a townie for information to a lynch is very rarely worth it. That’s because mafia is more than happy to ride the lynch like everyone else. We should never lynch a townie for information expect for truly exceptional circumstances.
For reference, indirect you to this line from Incog himself, he said it better:
A common misconception in a majority lynch system is that no-lynch is bad due to the notion that flips are the only source of information. While flips are useful in confirming information, there are many cases where it is clear that town is bandwagoning a player and will lead to a mislynch. In most cases, a bandwagon lynch on a townie is not going to produce any useful information. Without serious competition for a lynch target, the mafia don’t have any incentive to either jump on or stay off the bandwagon.
On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
I’ll own that failure. However, in the games I play, and indeed in post games of my themed setups, I often encourage players to try to play classic mafia and ignore setup speculation, as it is very easy for mafia to participate in this and look townie. So I would argue that my non analysis of the setup is irrelevant.
I would be very interested to hear from Artanis today. We have some more data from other players. I would be especially interested in hearing his thoughts on the post I quoted from Ever, and Vivax and Copcake’s interaction regarding sheeping.
Honestly the last 2 pages really havent felt that helpful to me. Vivax feels more townie to me than before due to his usual tin foil hatting right after finding a reason to townread me. Only caveat I have on him is completely ignoring Shockeyy in the entire game despite him having been a topic, but he's my second strongest townread next to Cop at this point.
Ever's posting has not impacted my reading on her much. I can see her believing Vivax is mafia and follow her reasoning a bit, but it all feels forced out due to pressure rather than having an innate desire to do something.
So you think then it’s between Ever, Grey and myself that are mafia?
So Ever is claiming not town. Cool. I'm guessing the only reason the game isn't over is because its 2v1v1. As such all we can hope for is the 2 opposing parties to shoot each other. I really doubt 5v1 with a vig is a thing. ##No Lynch
On November 16 2020 00:01 Vivax wrote: EBWOP: If 3p, it would exist alongside two scum (and make town sort of pointless?)
I think we just need to assume scum exist and it’s possible for town to win. Further discussion of setup and balance only serves to dilute the thread and help scum.
Vivax, pretend you have a gun. Who do you shoot? Who would you save?
And in general he just felt a bit in the background. Doesn't matter anymore though given he's flipped town.
im kind of missing you imagining yourself in my shoes here thinking i was the only vig and then my top suspect asks me who i’d shoot during the night phase.
On November 14 2020 05:27 Vivax wrote: Gun to my head I'd probably murder Artanis and Grey. As a welcome back gift (but no, really because I think they might be scum).
Rest of the game seems too chill to be mafia atm.
Sorry you are right you suspected Grey.
On my head Grey was clear town just for the whole "no lynch", if he was mafia it would just dragged the whole game for him and it would give us more time.
I am just waiting for slam to answer in the vote thread because it looks like Artanis has another power besides vig.
On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
On November 16 2020 00:39 Vivax wrote: I have some doubts on Artanis because he tends to be more spammy.
I'd pit Ever and Artanis against each other in a MMA octahedron tomorrow fully expecting Ever to win because farm work makes you ripped and I don't think a "get ripped" on a townie seal means a whole lot except for meek boasting.
You are absolutely right, you followed your process and makes sense with your flow.
I think we all should assume that all town have the same role or similar and that is why Shockey's nor Grey's were posted.
On November 14 2020 01:29 Alakaslam wrote: A Query has been lifted regarding the presence ofEvulzin the game. I appreciate this query, but must claim Ignorance as my own possession.
Tangentially someone could take offense to that claim. Obviously, I am referring to this game in particular; people are free to be ignorant of evil elsewhere!
Posting this to discuss it, there must be one mafia (Evulz) and there might be the third party because the game is not over yet if i am correct
On November 16 2020 16:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay so slam is just fucking around. I'm an infinite shot vig and I was gonna shoot ever, then last min changed to shockeyy.
This is literally my role to a point. I'm James Bond.
I feel like vivax will either be productive this cycle or I'll be screaming for his Lynch. Basically same reasons I scum read him in the first place. If this doesn't happen I'll shoot him tonight.
But if you had a gun, why did you want a lynch? why if we misslynched? and then you directly used your vig on shockey??? when you said it was you or vivax?
We don't even have to lynch we coordinate all shots at night but the mafia vig probably also can roleblock at the same time to prevent this sort of thing so need to figure out a way around that.
On November 14 2020 01:29 Alakaslam wrote: A Query has been lifted regarding the presence ofEvulzin the game. I appreciate this query, but must claim Ignorance as my own possession.
Tangentially someone could take offense to that claim. Obviously, I am referring to this game in particular; people are free to be ignorant of evil elsewhere!
I quoted this earlier, there is definitely mafia called "Evulz"
Idk I am trying to think if "not shooting" that would give us a clue if mafia has a kill or not but we lose a townie and if there is a third party it would 1 vs 1 vs 1 and that is dumb
On November 17 2020 02:42 Eversince wrote: I feel like vivax will either be productive this cycle or I'll be screaming for his Lynch. Basically same reasons I scum read him in the first place. If this doesn't happen I'll shoot him tonight. Schock was second place so I shot him.
Not shooting me might have been what gave you away. While you sounded I think more confident about me being mafia, you decided to shoot Shockeyy because you knew there wasn't a lot of consensus for me as scum. But also knowing BEFORE us that everyone was a vig, you knew you had to claim and you would rather have ended in trouble if you shot me.
I'm never not lynching Vivax. I'm never shooting outside of Vivax.
Unless he shits unicorns and rainbows for the rest of the day we should settle on this.
If there is 2 mafia we lose after I shoot if I'm wrong. If there is 3p fine. If you can win with town claim. Otherwise I'm wrong on Vivax, one of us dies tonight. If we are both town that the scenario earlier with 1v1v1 with a no lynch. Thread being dead for 7 hours is wasted time. And I'm short enough on it. Lets do somethings already. I will not waste another 3 days refreshing this thread for no reason.
Last art said was I claim anti town. Which is bullshit because why me claims a shot on town make me mafia when someone else did the same thing = not mafia?
Honestly realizing the setup made me fairly unmotivated to lynch anyone but Slam.
@Ever that was presuming I was the only vig in the game, but after Vivax claimed a vig shot as well I figured we're all just vig-es and Slam is being funny. The only alternative I see is that Copcake is mafia. I really don't think you or Vivax would play the way you have at the start of this day as Mafia.
That is the point we're at because thread is dead like 12 hours. Which makes me pause. This day has been a total waste of time outside art looking worse to me for thinking I'm anti town. You thinking I'm mafia for shooting schock over you when art also claims shot on him.
I'm waffling this super hard right now.. CC doesn't have the same fire she had last game I played. We barely talked and nailed most scum by like end of d1. I'm willing to entertain this thought. I'm open new tab and look but can you fellers check her filter to? I'm slow ..
On November 17 2020 17:28 Vivax wrote: We just no lynch again and don't use the shots at night and let the game run forever until Slam capitulates. A war of attrition it is.
I will never give up! I trust my instincts!
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On November 17 2020 17:34 Vivax wrote: I haven't really had the feeling of being on the table at any point. I think night consensus was you?
Hmm, I guess I owe it to Grey that we lynch you
That's more or less what I meant.
I wanted you lynched. Everyone was '?' on me Grey/schock had heat little..
So why am I the one left alive? If everyone else had me as there most likely choice, with all these guns, obvious means I wasn't the top pick. If I had a vest as s!es, got shot, town claim shot, Lynch between us. It didn't happen though. I'm the mislynch of choice. Or mafia hoping I get shot tonight.
On November 17 2020 17:34 Vivax wrote: I haven't really had the feeling of being on the table at any point. I think night consensus was you?
Hmm, I guess I owe it to Grey that we lynch you
That's more or less what I meant.
I wanted you lynched. Everyone was '?' on me Grey/schock had heat little..
So why am I the one left alive? If everyone else had me as there most likely choice, with all these guns, obvious means I wasn't the top pick. If I had a vest as s!es, got shot, town claim shot, Lynch between us. It didn't happen though. I'm the mislynch of choice. Or mafia hoping I get shot tonight.
I don't see it. Mafia would never shoot you, so the only logical conclusion is that the town viges all ended up not shooting you in the end, myself included. It shouldn't imply anything.
Given Vivax claimed a shot on GreY, and I would argue that CopCake was more universally townread than GreY anyway, the question is why didn't mafia kill CopCake? To me, the answer is that either it's because it is her, or because there are no mafia in the game. I'm 45/50 on that, with a 5% chance that they stacked with Vivax on GreY or that Vivax is mafia and somehow fakeclaimed being a second vig in a 6-player setup. Possible, but very unlikely.
Mafia would never shoot me per previous. If town did, why not claim it and force 1v1? If I was scum with vest I loss. If I'm telling truth I'm dead. If I'm scum why would I openly claim the shot on schock instead of trying to lie when I know claims going to make me look terrible before any else has claimed?
On November 17 2020 18:01 Eversince wrote: I don't know anymore really.
Mafia would never shoot me per previous. If town did, why not claim it and force 1v1? If I was scum with vest I loss. If I'm telling truth I'm dead. If I'm scum why would I openly claim the shot on schock instead of trying to lie when I know claims going to make me look terrible before any else has claimed?
A lot of these claims are WIFOM. It could be one or both of the dead townies that shot you. Perhaps scum is invulnerable to all shots and can only lose due to a lynch. We don't know as it depends on the setup.
However, the biggest ? I have, more than you still being alive, is why CopCake is still alive if there's a non-CopCake mafia player.
Cop it is I think. And me + art + ever all shot someone and cop saying nobody reads a bit like 'I don't want to look like I did the same', but who knows, I'll just yolo this too.
On November 17 2020 18:01 Eversince wrote: I don't know anymore really.
Mafia would never shoot me per previous. If town did, why not claim it and force 1v1? If I was scum with vest I loss. If I'm telling truth I'm dead. If I'm scum why would I openly claim the shot on schock instead of trying to lie when I know claims going to make me look terrible before any else has claimed?
A lot of these claims are WIFOM. It could be one or both of the dead townies that shot you. Perhaps scum is invulnerable to all shots and can only lose due to a lynch. We don't know as it depends on the setup.
However, the biggest ? I have, more than you still being alive, is why CopCake is still alive if there's a non-CopCake mafia player.
Because I am not dead I am mafia? is what you are saying?
On November 17 2020 18:10 Vivax wrote: Cop it is I think. And me + art + ever all shot someone and cop saying nobody reads a bit like 'I don't want to look like I did the same', but who knows, I'll just yolo this too.
##Vote CopCake
More like being the smart not wanting to kill town on a friendly fire.
I would suggest a no lynch and I am SURE going to shoot you next night.
On November 17 2020 18:01 Eversince wrote: I don't know anymore really.
Mafia would never shoot me per previous. If town did, why not claim it and force 1v1? If I was scum with vest I loss. If I'm telling truth I'm dead. If I'm scum why would I openly claim the shot on schock instead of trying to lie when I know claims going to make me look terrible before any else has claimed?
A lot of these claims are WIFOM. It could be one or both of the dead townies that shot you. Perhaps scum is invulnerable to all shots and can only lose due to a lynch. We don't know as it depends on the setup.
However, the biggest ? I have, more than you still being alive, is why CopCake is still alive if there's a non-CopCake mafia player.
Because I am not dead I am mafia? is what you are saying?
Can we also get to know your character?
Basically, either that or there are no mafia in the game are the most likely options from where I'm sitting. I'm Daisuke Jiggen, whoever that is.
On November 17 2020 17:34 Vivax wrote: I haven't really had the feeling of being on the table at any point. I think night consensus was you?
Hmm, I guess I owe it to Grey that we lynch you
That's more or less what I meant.
I wanted you lynched. Everyone was '?' on me Grey/schock had heat little..
So why am I the one left alive? If everyone else had me as there most likely choice, with all these guns, obvious means I wasn't the top pick. If I had a vest as s!es, got shot, town claim shot, Lynch between us. It didn't happen though. I'm the mislynch of choice. Or mafia hoping I get shot tonight.
I don't see it. Mafia would never shoot you, so the only logical conclusion is that the town viges all ended up not shooting you in the end, myself included. It shouldn't imply anything.
Given Vivax claimed a shot on GreY, and I would argue that CopCake was more universally townread than GreY anyway, the question is why didn't mafia kill CopCake? To me, the answer is that either it's because it is her, or because there are no mafia in the game. I'm 45/50 on that, with a 5% chance that they stacked with Vivax on GreY or that Vivax is mafia and somehow fakeclaimed being a second vig in a 6-player setup. Possible, but very unlikely.
Why can't Ever be like "alive" because well, she is mafia? No one shoot her that is right of the people ALIVE, but what if Shockey or Grey shot her and she is still alive?
On November 17 2020 17:34 Vivax wrote: I haven't really had the feeling of being on the table at any point. I think night consensus was you?
Hmm, I guess I owe it to Grey that we lynch you
That's more or less what I meant.
I wanted you lynched. Everyone was '?' on me Grey/schock had heat little..
So why am I the one left alive? If everyone else had me as there most likely choice, with all these guns, obvious means I wasn't the top pick. If I had a vest as s!es, got shot, town claim shot, Lynch between us. It didn't happen though. I'm the mislynch of choice. Or mafia hoping I get shot tonight.
I don't see it. Mafia would never shoot you, so the only logical conclusion is that the town viges all ended up not shooting you in the end, myself included. It shouldn't imply anything.
Given Vivax claimed a shot on GreY, and I would argue that CopCake was more universally townread than GreY anyway, the question is why didn't mafia kill CopCake? To me, the answer is that either it's because it is her, or because there are no mafia in the game. I'm 45/50 on that, with a 5% chance that they stacked with Vivax on GreY or that Vivax is mafia and somehow fakeclaimed being a second vig in a 6-player setup. Possible, but very unlikely.
Why can't Ever be like "alive" because well, she is mafia? No one shoot her that is right of the people ALIVE, but what if Shockey or Grey shot her and she is still alive?
Look, you instantly got me back to thinking you're town with how you returned into the thread guns blazing, but I can't decide between Ever, art.
The conservative choice is ever probably. WIth us three at night if we didn't win we can either double stack Artanis and Artanis can shoot me, or you double stack me and I shoot Artanis. We can discuss that later.
The bolded part I think should be taking out because there was a "day post" that even got edited which names one mafia character, so this is not a set up with all vigs or the mexican whatever vivax said.
So, in case we don't lynch, should we create a plan?
Everyone has basically claimed bullets at this point.
I don't even know what makes me mafia here. Nor at this point do I care. Vivax 180 on me seemed really easy. 'Oh Cake want ES dead? About face!'
Well this is a fun way to wake up. I'm going to work. Art just hammer me. I will not do it myself as it's against my win con and I don't see Cake hammering Vivax. Best choice as town is to get rid of me. Re to my previous point.. I'm not wasting another 3 days after this cycle if we no lynch. I will shoot Vivax tonight if I'm alive.
On November 18 2020 06:02 Eversince wrote: Everyone has basically claimed bullets at this point.
I don't even know what makes me mafia here. Nor at this point do I care. Vivax 180 on me seemed really easy. 'Oh Cake want ES dead? About face!'
Well this is a fun way to wake up. I'm going to work. Art just hammer me. I will not do it myself as it's against my win con and I don't see Cake hammering Vivax. Best choice as town is to get rid of me. Re to my previous point.. I'm not wasting another 3 days after this cycle if we no lynch. I will shoot Vivax tonight if I'm alive.
Ok ##Vote Eversince I also object to the idea that we're voting slam to stay on as host. IM VOTING HIM FOR THE NOOSE DAMNIT
Why did you unvote me Vivax? Why is no lynch the 100% way we keep playing this when time is obviously not what we need. We buy time for extra time to waste it in silence?
We go create a blood bath tonight?
Now getting close to deadline and we sit and do nothing? Please decide. We have a lynch for a reason.
If Slams seriously just troll modding us fine. In good faith I'm going to assume there IS mafia in this game. Let's hang them! Vote friends!
If no lynch happens I'm shooting Vivax. Cop/Art one shoot me. You can double stack on me but if that's the plan let me just self vote and double stack on Vivax.
If either are scum were basically screwed. Let's dance :3
Vivax you're seriously going to be coward enough to REVOTE me with nothing in thread!? It's been 15 fucking minutes! I LITERALLY asked for majority! You can't even come with a reason to put your vote back on me??????
Should I just stop caring at this point? You dense .. Er.. I won't say because it's not who I am. I'm more disappointed than anything else.
I'm ok being lynch. I'm ok sacrifice as town to further town. What I'm not ok is no one is even measure options. If I'm right post game I'm rage super hard.
Apparent I'm talking to myself. I'm back until deadline. This is a waste of time. I have so many things to do. If no one wants to play.. Ok. See you, good luck. I'm fed up.
Look it's a troll game, or maybe not, because you're taking it way too seriously O_o . Especially with everyone having shots at night one could think "oh w/e, we'll just figure it out later".
And it's probably a bad time for you to post looking for replies, it's early morning in Europe.
I didn't set the deadline. It might be a troll game. I'm under the assumption it was a experimental game. What's the point of this game if we aren't 'testing' anything? What your saying basically equal to 'just screw around! This might as well be the community chat instead of a game!'
Then I'm going to reply..
Why did I join to play mafia.. If we aren't playing mafia?
Dunno, I went to bed thinking Hapa was serious with the Slam votecoubt in spoilers. Then Artanis switched and ai switched with him.
I don’t quite get your shift from ‘either vivax or me have to die today’ to ‘lynch me’ at some point and now you don’t like being lynched when the other two players aren’t here.
I don’t know if thinking you might not be mafia made me stupid enough. But if you say that it’s the case, I’ll try to be smarter and call you 100% mafia from now on.
Eversince, who self voted for town's benefits, claims a shot on a confirmed town, tells everyone that we should play mafia instead of trolling, is totes mafia.
Never mind that people wanted to lynch the fucking host. Never mind the fact that I LITERALLY killed myself BY FUCKING LYNCH!! Never mind that I said to shoot me tonight? After I said that I would sacrifice myself? Is everyone here fucking stupid?!?
I honestly have very little motivation to play this game tbh. It feels like it's completely governed by mechanics and whoever wins is because they guessed the mechanics correctly, or town didn't guess it correctly. I don't even know if there is mafia in the game or if we'd win by no shooting for a night.
On November 14 2020 01:29 Alakaslam wrote: A Query has been lifted regarding the presence ofEvulzin the game. I appreciate this query, but must claim Ignorance as my own possession.
Tangentially someone could take offense to that claim. Obviously, I am referring to this game in particular; people are free to be ignorant of evil elsewhere!
On November 14 2020 01:29 Alakaslam wrote: A Query has been lifted regarding the presence ofEvulzin the game. I appreciate this query, but must claim Ignorance as my own possession.
Tangentially someone could take offense to that claim. Obviously, I am referring to this game in particular; people are free to be ignorant of evil elsewhere!
Here
Yeah, he's claiming ignorance regarding whether there are mafia in the game or not. Basically its a non-answer as I understood it.
And if "we are all town" then let's kill each other but you know, you, vivax and myself are characters from the same CARTOON while Ever is James Bond, not even an animated character.
On November 18 2020 21:33 CopCake wrote: Well there has been MOD DAY POSTS naming a mafia.
Oh, missed this so I pointed it out doubly.
I don't know why Ever is tryharding in the wrong place (drive to survive) if not scum at this point, or insisting I have to call her mafia back in the last day.
Maybe she's preparing a signature. "Champion of Slams semi-bastard game of 2020."
Though looking for clues in the OP it seems Slam tried to make it reasonable.
- Saying "It is me or Vivax" calling you scum all game and she didn't kill you? If you know someone is 100% scum you go and kill that person.
- Never claiming she is town, we call her mafia, I have said her character doesn't fit and she hasn't called me out of that (If you do it after this post doesn't count because I told you myself Ever <3)
- Only person on this game that has been wanting to LYNCH since day 1. Even if Grey's point was super valid.
- Jumps on any train, when Artanis (by PoE I suppose) called me mafia she suddenly said that I wasn't acting as my last game with her (the hydra one), when I post in the morning and you changed your mind on me so did she if I remember correctly, need to check that again.
- Says no one considered to lynch the host??? she killed herself??? I don't know some of her rage part doesn't make sense. Shoot me tonight after sacrificing myself? I don't understand...
Overall, I think she is trying to mimic what happened with the "I am the cop, you idiot 1" set up. Frustration.
I give no fucks at the mechanics at the moment and just analyze what is tangible in the game, trying to see who is having an agenda with the posts, etc. and that is Ever.
It also worries me the "go kill me tonight", wondering if she didn't suddenly got a granny power after the lynch.
Well my meaning was more that I did sacrifice myself. I was already majority and moved my own vote onto myself last minute to assure that a no lynch didn't happen. If that's not sacrificing yourself I don't know what is..
I tell people to kill me tonight because it's the best play for town. I'm never going to be a viable choice in lylo. Ie town will loss when I get lynched. I hate it but it's pretty obvious by now everyone wants me burning on a skewer.
I didn't call you mafia Cake. I said you seemed different at that point. I rolled around the idea that you could be mafia when I was talking with Vivax. Even then though should be obvious I wasn't sold considering I said I needed to 'ponder'? I think was the word. Not sold then
I have no idea about why you guys are anime characters and I'm not.. I never even thought about it is true. Wouldn't have either if you hadn't point out.
But I am rambling now.. Best play is just kill me tonight. If my bullet doesn't go through lynch Vivax tomorrow.
I think it's silly. If I'm a monster that per role pm is town, what is my objective? Soak kp? If I can't die by lynch, can't die by bullet, I'm immortal?
Seems broken to me.
If I have a un-notified vest then I'll die when someone sends kp on me. If I don't die then I'm not even sure what I should do. If winning involving nothing more than surviving when I can't die? I could literally afk this while I win? No way.
I guess I have a tinfoil theory where Artanis is scum.
Because I didn't realize you could actually vote for Slam until Hapa put it in spoilers. Artanis backing off there when I was ready to cruise for that lynch if it's even possible could mean he's mafia.
In this game the mafia is either the most tryhard or the most bored. You're the most tryhard, and Artanis is so bored that he is barely playing, not even to shitpost which he loved to do.
On November 19 2020 05:16 Vivax wrote: I guess I have a tinfoil theory where Artanis is scum.
Because I didn't realize you could actually vote for Slam until Hapa put it in spoilers. Artanis backing off there when I was ready to cruise for that lynch if it's even possible could mean he's mafia.
This would be the most ridiculous game of mafia ever if the gosh damn host is scum. Personal opinion is that the hosts were poking fun. I mean Art had 2 votes on Slam and 1 on me. You seriously think all 3 were valid? Serious?
On November 19 2020 05:16 Vivax wrote: I guess I have a tinfoil theory where Artanis is scum.
Because I didn't realize you could actually vote for Slam until Hapa put it in spoilers. Artanis backing off there when I was ready to cruise for that lynch if it's even possible could mean he's mafia.
I voted seriously after because Hapa added
With 3 votes, Slam is set to be voted to be elected Host for another term.
I was hoping it'd be more entertaining than that, but they clearly weren't gonna do anything fun with it
Also, I missed the part with the 'mafia passive ability triggered'. I guess that means there is a mafia in the game. Just wonder if it's actually possible to kill them with a shot. I would imagine that if we're all viges that GreY and Shockey were too. Neither of them shot Ever? Seems unlikely.
I already played with the idea of Grey and Shockey shooting Ever (doubt they would shoot me), that would explain why Vivax, "Ever's biggest mafia" is alive, she probably has several lives and no gun.
I mean, if you want to believe that as mafia I see 2 vig claims at the start of the day and go 'hey let's claim a shot on shockeyy too and then proceed not to push Ever' while caring as little about the game as I have, that is your perogative.
As a matter of attitude. He seems too content being on the sidelines (early everyone was a bit like that but as the game progressed I didn't see him pick up the pace).
Besides Artanis early game kinda hinted vig before the results of the night with the rockets on his garden. So I suggest to go simple atm. If at the end, they are mafia I attack Ever and you go for Artanis.
On November 19 2020 06:16 CopCake wrote: Besides Artanis early game kinda hinted vig before the results of the night with the rockets on his garden. So I suggest to go simple atm. If at the end, they are mafia I attack Ever and you go for Artanis.
Man I hadn't even thought of that, it wasn't intended as a breadcrumb either :D
On November 19 2020 06:29 CopCake wrote: I wonder if Rsoultin is watching the game.
I think she's glossed over the game but it isn't really catching her interest. I can't blame her.
Then make it interesting, I am trying to light up the mood and tbf I am enjoying the game because is the first time me and Vivax are “working together” to solve the game.
On November 19 2020 06:29 CopCake wrote: I wonder if Rsoultin is watching the game.
I think she's glossed over the game but it isn't really catching her interest. I can't blame her.
Then make it interesting, I am trying to light up the mood and tbf I am enjoying the game because is the first time me and Vivax are “working together” to solve the game.
If the game is still going on tomorrow I can do a mystery of sorts like Holyflare did with Scooby Doo in really small mafia, but I imagine the guns will end the game before then. Don't have time/motivation to make it interesting earlier than that
On November 19 2020 06:38 CopCake wrote: Artanis, on a serious way before I start to be paranoid like Vivax
Why is Ever town in your eyes?
Partially it's the instant claim of being a vig and killing Shockeyy that makes me think she's either got more information than all of us as mafia, or she's exactly what I am. Partially it's really not how I would play as mafia when suspected by everyone and not having a partner, but of course she might not be like me. Part of me also wants to stick up for the one everyone's suspecting because I've been in that position before as town. I also can't make heads nor tails of her play if she's mafia.
I don't really think you are mafia either though, which makes the game kinda annoying.
PASSIVE MAFIA MECHANIC DEACTIVATED. The castle in the air is on the move. It is all or nothing.
This lynch decides the game! You may vote No-Lynch, but this is not recommended. It is still possible to continue beyond by no-lynching, but. . . Let none say you went unwarned!
Then I don't know what you are questioning, I did shoot her which is why first thing I did was to vote for her, at least I don't have a shit ton of lives.
On November 19 2020 04:25 Eversince wrote: I think it's silly. If I'm a monster that per role pm is town, what is my objective? Soak kp? If I can't die by lynch, can't die by bullet, I'm immortal?
Seems broken to me.
If I have a un-notified vest then I'll die when someone sends kp on me. If I don't die then I'm not even sure what I should do. If winning involving nothing more than surviving when I can't die? I could literally afk this while I win? No way.
I can!? Darn I could of saved a lot of time!
So I'm immune to Lynch? Your assumption is immune to kp 1 time each player. If anyone has shot me I've killed them before they can call it?
Cake is never not going to vote me. Art when you're around let's just decide. There is little point in dragging this out to be a dead thread for another day.
Honestly I skimmed Cake's filter and I just can't seem to find her scum. That leaves you. Which is a problem that isn't solvable.. So if your scum gg. Otherwise I think we should call it.
With no one else to turn to, Milo, Tock, the Humbug, Rhyme, and Reason have had to abandon Daisuke Jigen to the wiles of The demons of Ignorance! Not known for their capacity for mercy, Jigen was overrun resulting in Mafia victory.
Congratulations to CopCake for a game remarkably well played.
“... slam. SLAM. FULL DISCLOSURE GODDAMN IT!!”
Yes yes I will do this. It’s coming. And it will be faster than Blazinghand’s analysis of British Empire.
Well, in this game, every town member was a vigilante. 4 had J names, three were famous gunmen, two were cartoons from the same series, and two were specifically named John. Please give that some thought and don’t accuse me of yeeting setups again
Mafia had a fakeclaim- Samurai Jack. Played properly, as we saw, this worked great- they can associate as Goemon Ishikawa. Or, well, Jack is a J name- and close to John in that it has 4 letters.
The odd name out was Lupin; he could serve as an all claim miller since he is the only non J name.
See? I put a lot of thought into this setu-
“FUCK YOU SLAM! My shot did not go through! WTF!!”
HEY! Cop didn’t even have a shot until N1! And the way the mechanics worked, your shot was cut off by-
“W H A T !!?! you are saying mafia couldn’t shoot?!?[/i]”
Yes! Hear me out!
So everyone was a vig except CopCake. How does all that work? How does town not instantly suicide?
Well, one way is to think, and not be trigger happy or too sus. But then, mafia literally can’t shoot till someone dies, so. Meh. But here are a few additional safeguards anyway, ripped from the hosting spreadsheet:
< If two players target each other, the shots cancel> < If a player dies who is shooting another player, that player's shot does not go through. The one who starts the chain is not shot, so the third guy survives. Then, his shot goes through, and the fifth guy is saved- whose shot also goes through. If that shot targets the first player, all shots are null as the chain collapses the space time continuum.> < If three players are shooting each other in a chain, they all survive.> < If four players are shooting at each other in a chain, they all survive. If three players are shooting each other and another player is shooting into the chain, that player that was shot twice dies and so does the target of the player they were shooting.>
“...So basically, diplomacy mafia.”
This only works with a closed setup! But that seems to also be why it doesn’t, sadly enough. CopCake, who we swore would be underpowered (since she couldn’t shoot until someone died) became massively overpowered. Let’s talk her powers by the way.
I did not want a scum with no NK playing on their own able to die N1. N2 though, they should be able to die. Especially if they are the only suspect; at that point town has won already. So, 7 vests should do the trick.
And lynch protection. But that’s too powerful, right? So, that lynch protection? It protects EVERYONE- until MYLO- because, there is so much town KP flying around that doing it this way means 1. Townies have a harder time killing each other and 2. This doesn’t make them OP against this essentially powerless scum by denial of information.
But what with everyone being a vig, if everyone full flips and one person just happens to survive every shot aimed at them... game becomes obvious. So, flips are alignment only.
Every time Mafia were to get shot (which never happened), I would have put a copy of this for each shot:
< Flavor every time CopCake is shot:
Yes it was in there for Hapa.
So Town had tools; they just happened to not prog a single one of them in this playthrough. Frustrating and cool at the same time, tbh.
On November 20 2020 15:51 Eversince wrote: Thanks for the game friends! Thanks for hosting Slam :3.
Sorry for the bad play ฯ.ฯ I made a lot of mistakes this game..
Setup kinda screwed you too though. Must have seemed like I was intentionally framing you. I am sorry for that and promised I wasn’t. It will be explained when I finish full disclosure- or Hapa is free to beat me to that punch, obviously he knows how this hot mess went down too.
Again, amazingly good utilization of the position by CopCake. Only suboptimal play was holding her shot; she could have shot and had a chance of winning in the night phase.
It's ironic that I literally shot about the only chance at town winning.. Sorry Vivax *cries*
Honestly by the time I submitted that I wasn't sure. If I hadn't shot at that point I was obvious lynch. Still better would of been to leave Vivax alive and just die myself so town might of had a chance..
Welp, gonna confess I was paranoid kinda, I was getting vibes that besides the shot maybe town had some extra power (I didn't know how Ever survived, even believed she was another mafia) so my ignorance not understanding the mechanics and lack of info helped me a little bit. That is why I didn't decide to use my gun btw.
I was also lucky that the two persons alive where from the same cartoon and decided to transform my fake claim into part of the main trio of the show, Ever being James Bond and the only not cartoon character was also helpful.
Well I'm glad my instincts on ever were right even if I ended up lynching her twice >>. I'll be honest, I considered unvoting this day based on how hard copcake went in against my simple question. I just didnt want to throw away the gsme on a mild suspicion when I reslly didnt hard suspect her and it felt everyone and their mom thought it was ever.
5x Town Vigi - Vigi's can shoot 1KP every night. Vigi's cannot "save" KP. - Vigi shots are subject to the "hidden rules" outlined in Slam's previous post.
1x Mafia Super-Veteran - Has 7 bulletproof vests. - Slam and I had discussed giving a one-time use 1KP to mafia, although, I don't know if it was ever given or used.
Additionally, Mafia had a hidden passive mechanic that would have invalidated every single lynch except for LYLO.
It was a fun setup to watch, but from a game design perspective, I dislike mechanics that make players feel like they are "wasting" effort or time. I think some of the hidden mechanics unintentionally had that effect (particularly the "fake" lynch mechanic).
On November 21 2020 06:29 Hapahauli wrote: It was a fun setup to watch, but from a game design perspective, I dislike mechanics that make players feel like they are "wasting" effort or time. I think some of the hidden mechanics unintentionally had that effect (particularly the "fake" lynch mechanic).
A solution here might be to have made 24 hour days, and preferably do something with the lynch mechanic. Some ideas: Mayor vote (with some powers), Town votes to give out an item (vest, bullets, etc), Jail (town roleblock).
I also am not a fan of setups with only one mafia. Or... well, I feel like this setup has Mafia and Town on very even grounds. Both parties are basically devoid of information and have similar objectives.
I could maybe see this evolving into something like the Assassin vs King (I forget the actual name) where Scum has a target they want to find and Town has vague knowledge about who they need to protect.
On November 21 2020 06:29 Hapahauli wrote: The setup was:
5x Town Vigi - Vigi's can shoot 1KP every night. Vigi's cannot "save" KP. - Vigi shots are subject to the "hidden rules" outlined in Slam's previous post.
1x Mafia Super-Veteran - Has 7 bulletproof vests. - Slam and I had discussed giving a one-time use 1KP to mafia, although, I don't know if it was ever given or used.
Additionally, Mafia had a hidden passive mechanic that would have invalidated every single lynch except for LYLO.
It was a fun setup to watch, but from a game design perspective, I dislike mechanics that make players feel like they are "wasting" effort or time. I think some of the hidden mechanics unintentionally had that effect (particularly the "fake" lynch mechanic).
On November 21 2020 06:29 Hapahauli wrote: It was a fun setup to watch, but from a game design perspective, I dislike mechanics that make players feel like they are "wasting" effort or time. I think some of the hidden mechanics unintentionally had that effect (particularly the "fake" lynch mechanic).
A solution here might be to have made 24 hour days, and preferably do something with the lynch mechanic. Some ideas: Mayor vote (with some powers), Town votes to give out an item (vest, bullets, etc), Jail (town roleblock).
I also am not a fan of setups with only one mafia. Or... well, I feel like this setup has Mafia and Town on very even grounds. Both parties are basically devoid of information and have similar objectives.
I could maybe see this evolving into something like the Assassin vs King (I forget the actual name) where Scum has a target they want to find and Town has vague knowledge about who they need to protect.
These all sound like excellent ideas, and good hotfixes if I ever run something like this again.
On November 21 2020 06:29 Hapahauli wrote: The setup was:
5x Town Vigi - Vigi's can shoot 1KP every night. Vigi's cannot "save" KP. - Vigi shots are subject to the "hidden rules" outlined in Slam's previous post.
1x Mafia Super-Veteran - Has 7 bulletproof vests. - Slam and I had discussed giving a one-time use 1KP to mafia, although, I don't know if it was ever given or used.
Additionally, Mafia had a hidden passive mechanic that would have invalidated every single lynch except for LYLO.
It was a fun setup to watch, but from a game design perspective, I dislike mechanics that make players feel like they are "wasting" effort or time. I think some of the hidden mechanics unintentionally had that effect (particularly the "fake" lynch mechanic).
Reason I eventually gave up r.r..
You could play as vanilla, dont rely 100% on mechanics.