On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
I’ll own that failure. However, in the games I play, and indeed in post games of my themed setups, I often encourage players to try to play classic mafia and ignore setup speculation, as it is very easy for mafia to participate in this and look townie. So I would argue that my non analysis of the setup is irrelevant.
I would be very interested to hear from Artanis today. We have some more data from other players. I would be especially interested in hearing his thoughts on the post I quoted from Ever, and Vivax and Copcake’s interaction regarding sheeping.
Honestly the last 2 pages really havent felt that helpful to me. Vivax feels more townie to me than before due to his usual tin foil hatting right after finding a reason to townread me. Only caveat I have on him is completely ignoring Shockeyy in the entire game despite him having been a topic, but he's my second strongest townread next to Cop at this point.
Ever's posting has not impacted my reading on her much. I can see her believing Vivax is mafia and follow her reasoning a bit, but it all feels forced out due to pressure rather than having an innate desire to do something.
On November 15 2020 14:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: Well Vivax seems to be getting nuked by Artanis, whatever that means.
Second person I'm kinda weary about is Cop due to how much she tries to get me lynched pretty quickly.
Cop just check my first post with you, it will only tell you truth if you're telling the truth about your role.
This post proves to me shockey isnt reading the thread critically. Initially was gonna say I think it makes him more likely town cause surely this would be discussed in a scum qt, but then realized it might be too obvious to even bring up in there. Would also make sense with Ever since she seems to be out of the loop as well.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
Don't cry wolf at me. I obviously caught up. Was I 'out of the loop'? Yes. I admitted as much. I still giving up sleep to try and help. Am I mafia for it? Give me bullet points.. I must be dense..
My thoughts on literally every single player are in the game is in filter. If you want to expand on them I encourage you to do so.
Disclaimer: I'm half drunk and super tired. On that note.. I think I'll make a bath with another glass of scotch.
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote: @Grey- why is it bad?
1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p. 2) you give mafia a free up. 3) as town you are giving up your voice. 3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.
Which is it?
As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
Do you believe everything you said here, Grey?
I may not have phrased it appropriately but I’ll stand by it. I do not see the town motiviation behind that statement, especially in a game this small.
Less than 12 hours remain of N01 lol at my N0 homboii is tired, my daughter is so chill though. I’m loving this stage, hope to find a way to cheer my wife on though, she has borne the brunt of this time.
You're still trading a townie for information. You're condemning a townie to die because none of you have the guts to walk that tight rope. You're willing to sacrifice the one time we can be wrong, because you're scared.
On November 16 2020 04:46 Eversince wrote: You're still trading a townie for information. You're condemning a townie to die because none of you have the guts to walk that tight rope. You're willing to sacrifice the one time we can be wrong, because you're scared.
I'm not. Who needs to die?
Sacrificing a townie for information to a lynch is very rarely worth it. That’s because mafia is more than happy to ride the lynch like everyone else. We should never lynch a townie for information expect for truly exceptional circumstances.
For reference, indirect you to this line from Incog himself, he said it better:
A common misconception in a majority lynch system is that no-lynch is bad due to the notion that flips are the only source of information. While flips are useful in confirming information, there are many cases where it is clear that town is bandwagoning a player and will lead to a mislynch. In most cases, a bandwagon lynch on a townie is not going to produce any useful information. Without serious competition for a lynch target, the mafia don’t have any incentive to either jump on or stay off the bandwagon.
On November 16 2020 00:24 GreYMisT wrote: So am I your top scum read now?
I had a spidey sense on you from the start but you not analyzing the setup before I did when you're one of the most diligent hosts on the site was really a nail in the coffin.
I’ll own that failure. However, in the games I play, and indeed in post games of my themed setups, I often encourage players to try to play classic mafia and ignore setup speculation, as it is very easy for mafia to participate in this and look townie. So I would argue that my non analysis of the setup is irrelevant.
I would be very interested to hear from Artanis today. We have some more data from other players. I would be especially interested in hearing his thoughts on the post I quoted from Ever, and Vivax and Copcake’s interaction regarding sheeping.
Honestly the last 2 pages really havent felt that helpful to me. Vivax feels more townie to me than before due to his usual tin foil hatting right after finding a reason to townread me. Only caveat I have on him is completely ignoring Shockeyy in the entire game despite him having been a topic, but he's my second strongest townread next to Cop at this point.
Ever's posting has not impacted my reading on her much. I can see her believing Vivax is mafia and follow her reasoning a bit, but it all feels forced out due to pressure rather than having an innate desire to do something.
So you think then it’s between Ever, Grey and myself that are mafia?
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