• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:18
CEST 09:18
KST 16:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End6Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles0GSTL Returns in 2026!43Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion SC4ALL II: Brood War Player Announcement 3/4 - soO Rush's Odyssey Controversy [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group A [ASL22] Ro24 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0 CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6746 users

[B][M]_WTH Slam? Mafia - Page 16

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 29 Next All
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 15 2020 10:02 GMT
#301
On November 15 2020 17:14 GreYMisT wrote:
ShoCk, what is your reaction to the bolded part of the quote above?


I can see why mafia would prefer not to no lynch ;D
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 15 2020 10:03 GMT
#302
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


I'm not really giving up my voice as town and choosing no lynch.
Life?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 15 2020 10:22 GMT
#303
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 15 2020 10:23 GMT
#304
On November 15 2020 19:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


I'm not really giving up my voice as town and choosing no lynch.


Even if it wasn’t mylo, mislynching a townie very rarely gives any good information anyway. Especially in a game like this, mafia would have very little at stake in backing that lynch.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 13:57 GMT
#305
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote:
On side notes.

Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.

Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much.
Overall I agree.

Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.

Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.

Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.

I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.

I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..


This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.

Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:33 GMT
#306
On November 15 2020 14:47 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.


Ok.

Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot.
Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.

Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?

If you had to Lynch who would be?


I am confused a little bit with this, we don't know if it is two mafia or one mafia one third party.

Btw this is a general question for everyone.

IF there is one mafia and one third party... ¿Isn't it the same as two mafia in different groups pretty much?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:35 GMT
#307
On November 15 2020 14:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well Vivax seems to be getting nuked by Artanis, whatever that means.

Second person I'm kinda weary about is Cop due to how much she tries to get me lynched pretty quickly.

Cop just check my first post with you, it will only tell you truth if you're telling the truth about your role.


Quickly not, just gave my opinion, unlike ever i don't think you are being fluffy, but remember also that in the past I have misslynched you a lot as town. But don't worry you are probably now the third person I find scummy now.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:37 GMT
#308
On November 15 2020 05:11 Vivax wrote:
I'm kinda reluctant to vote, don't feel any committment to my reads.

I'm sort of okay just sheeping cop here.


And I want to point this one again, I know he says that what is on the game stays in game, etc but to ME this is still ODD.

Why? Because generally my reads are based on "tone" and Vivax is more of a logical player like Rayn.

This looks like if there was a misslynch I would get all the blame for it.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 14:51 GMT
#309
On November 15 2020 22:57 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote:
On side notes.

Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.

Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much.
Overall I agree.

Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.

Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.

Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.

I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.

I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..


This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.

Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?


Because Vivax has a lot of post they say not many things.
I have less time to play which will cause problems for me. Obvious reasons unless I'm playing with people that know my activity is always nia. Not the case.

The point of the game is to Lynch scum. Check basically any game I've ever played. I never advocate no lynch. Kill scum. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong. Doing nothing doesn't sit right.

Conclusion is if it's going to be difficult for town to decide my alignment.. We lynch into the person I think is most scummy and the '?' (Me). Hopefully that makes sense.

As for Shock, on catching up it felt like he was absent, then around but not saying anything. Granted I did enjoy our conversation earlier. Re stating what I said before though. I feel better on Vivax still being a better lynch. -> so I say 'hmm.. I feel like you could be a fox eyeballing my hens, let me investigate this a little. So I did :p.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 14:54 GMT
#310
On November 15 2020 23:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 14:47 Eversince wrote:
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.


Ok.

Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot.
Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.

Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?

If you had to Lynch who would be?


I am confused a little bit with this, we don't know if it is two mafia or one mafia one third party.

Btw this is a general question for everyone.

IF there is one mafia and one third party... ¿Isn't it the same as two mafia in different groups pretty much?



Depends.. If 3p can win with town or their own win con. Makes it swing. But I'm terrible at game balance so I'll leave that question for people smarter than me..
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:54 GMT
#311
On November 15 2020 23:51 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 22:57 CopCake wrote:
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote:
On side notes.

Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.

Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much.
Overall I agree.

Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.

Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.

Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.

I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.

I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..


This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.

Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?


Because Vivax has a lot of post they say not many things.
I have less time to play which will cause problems for me. Obvious reasons unless I'm playing with people that know my activity is always nia. Not the case.

The point of the game is to Lynch scum. Check basically any game I've ever played. I never advocate no lynch. Kill scum. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong. Doing nothing doesn't sit right.

Conclusion is if it's going to be difficult for town to decide my alignment.. We lynch into the person I think is most scummy and the '?' (Me). Hopefully that makes sense.

As for Shock, on catching up it felt like he was absent, then around but not saying anything. Granted I did enjoy our conversation earlier. Re stating what I said before though. I feel better on Vivax still being a better lynch. -> so I say 'hmm.. I feel like you could be a fox eyeballing my hens, let me investigate this a little. So I did :p.


But when we were hydra together we sticked to Monadel's plan of not lynching because town loses more and it is a game as small as this.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 14:59 GMT
#312
Cake hun you know that's only because I let you make executive decisions basically all game.
I even said after Rayn died he'd of been passed for no lynching when we knew we had hit mafia 95%.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 14:59 GMT
#313
Ebwop

Pissed*
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 15 2020 15:00 GMT
#314
Balance wise I'd say 3p has to exist alongside 2 scum.

Don't really see a complex setup here cuz Slam probably just yolo'd it and think 2 scum vs 4 town is more likely.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 15 2020 15:01 GMT
#315
EBWOP: If 3p, it would exist alongside two scum (and make town sort of pointless?)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 15:01 GMT
#316
That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.

The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.

Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 15:06 GMT
#317
On November 16 2020 00:01 CopCake wrote:
That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.

The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.


Yes which is my poiby. Even if we weren't I still would pushed for a Lynch between a C.f. fight. But different scenarios. I'm not sure what this conversation is supposed to go from here though..

I don't think not lynching is a good play. Very few exceptions to this for me.

Does it make me scum?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 15:08 GMT
#318
Wow auto correct butchered that better than my neighbors.
I think it's readable. If not I'll type it again.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 15:09 GMT
#319
On November 16 2020 00:06 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 00:01 CopCake wrote:
That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.

The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.


Yes which is my poiby. Even if we weren't I still would pushed for a Lynch between a C.f. fight. But different scenarios. I'm not sure what this conversation is supposed to go from here though..

I don't think not lynching is a good play. Very few exceptions to this for me.

Does it make me scum?


What is odd is saying "between vivax and me".

You should have said "Vivax is most likely mafia"
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
November 15 2020 15:12 GMT
#320
Why is me understanding the fact I'm be hard to read(always but more so when I'm pressed for time).
It seemed like most were concerned already on me.
I said what I thought, then said what I think was towns best option was?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 594
Bale 40
Noble 37
Icarus 11
Light 0
League of Legends
JimRising 586
Counter-Strike
summit1g6467
shoxiejesuss2
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King158
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr43
Other Games
singsing1432
Coldzera 1055
ceh9433
WinterStarcraft401
Happy276
Hui .122
NeuroSwarm93
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick559
BasetradeTV37
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH344
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2346
League of Legends
• Rush1206
• Lourlo1049
• Stunt650
• HappyZerGling69
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
2h 42m
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
GSL
3h 42m
PiGosaur Cup
16h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 2h
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 4
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
2026 GSTL
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.