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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 15 2020 10:02 GMT
#301
On November 15 2020 17:14 GreYMisT wrote:
ShoCk, what is your reaction to the bolded part of the quote above?


I can see why mafia would prefer not to no lynch ;D
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 15 2020 10:03 GMT
#302
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


I'm not really giving up my voice as town and choosing no lynch.
Life?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 15 2020 10:22 GMT
#303
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


As Vivax and I mentioned last page, I am operating under the assumption that we were in mylo D1. So a cavalier “you should lynch me or him”’is rather suspicious because it both does not fully point the finger at a player or nail you down to a position, and seems to further a mafia agenda.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 15 2020 10:23 GMT
#304
On November 15 2020 19:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 18:14 Eversince wrote:
@Grey- why is it bad?

1) you give time to town by putting us in mylo unless 3p.
2) you give mafia a free up.
3) as town you are giving up your voice.
3b) you are at a point where you don't have confidence to Lynch.

Which is it?


I'm not really giving up my voice as town and choosing no lynch.


Even if it wasn’t mylo, mislynching a townie very rarely gives any good information anyway. Especially in a game like this, mafia would have very little at stake in backing that lynch.
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 13:57 GMT
#305
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote:
On side notes.

Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.

Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much.
Overall I agree.

Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.

Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.

Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.

I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.

I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..


This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.

Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:33 GMT
#306
On November 15 2020 14:47 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.


Ok.

Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot.
Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.

Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?

If you had to Lynch who would be?


I am confused a little bit with this, we don't know if it is two mafia or one mafia one third party.

Btw this is a general question for everyone.

IF there is one mafia and one third party... ¿Isn't it the same as two mafia in different groups pretty much?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:35 GMT
#307
On November 15 2020 14:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well Vivax seems to be getting nuked by Artanis, whatever that means.

Second person I'm kinda weary about is Cop due to how much she tries to get me lynched pretty quickly.

Cop just check my first post with you, it will only tell you truth if you're telling the truth about your role.


Quickly not, just gave my opinion, unlike ever i don't think you are being fluffy, but remember also that in the past I have misslynched you a lot as town. But don't worry you are probably now the third person I find scummy now.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:37 GMT
#308
On November 15 2020 05:11 Vivax wrote:
I'm kinda reluctant to vote, don't feel any committment to my reads.

I'm sort of okay just sheeping cop here.


And I want to point this one again, I know he says that what is on the game stays in game, etc but to ME this is still ODD.

Why? Because generally my reads are based on "tone" and Vivax is more of a logical player like Rayn.

This looks like if there was a misslynch I would get all the blame for it.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 14:51 GMT
#309
On November 15 2020 22:57 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote:
On side notes.

Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.

Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much.
Overall I agree.

Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.

Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.

Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.

I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.

I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..


This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.

Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?


Because Vivax has a lot of post they say not many things.
I have less time to play which will cause problems for me. Obvious reasons unless I'm playing with people that know my activity is always nia. Not the case.

The point of the game is to Lynch scum. Check basically any game I've ever played. I never advocate no lynch. Kill scum. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong. Doing nothing doesn't sit right.

Conclusion is if it's going to be difficult for town to decide my alignment.. We lynch into the person I think is most scummy and the '?' (Me). Hopefully that makes sense.

As for Shock, on catching up it felt like he was absent, then around but not saying anything. Granted I did enjoy our conversation earlier. Re stating what I said before though. I feel better on Vivax still being a better lynch. -> so I say 'hmm.. I feel like you could be a fox eyeballing my hens, let me investigate this a little. So I did :p.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 14:54 GMT
#310
On November 15 2020 23:33 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 14:47 Eversince wrote:
On November 15 2020 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
In all honesty, with how slow the game is going, no lynching is our best bet. End of N1 will give us more details than the current posts that we have.


Ok.

Assuming that it's 2 mafia they get a free shot.
Assuming it's 1 mafia, 1 3p, maby even for town if mafia hit 3p.

Why take the odds? Because obviously if we drug feet through mud for 48 hours.. We gain the lost of 3p if luck?

If you had to Lynch who would be?


I am confused a little bit with this, we don't know if it is two mafia or one mafia one third party.

Btw this is a general question for everyone.

IF there is one mafia and one third party... ¿Isn't it the same as two mafia in different groups pretty much?



Depends.. If 3p can win with town or their own win con. Makes it swing. But I'm terrible at game balance so I'll leave that question for people smarter than me..
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 14:54 GMT
#311
On November 15 2020 23:51 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 22:57 CopCake wrote:
On November 15 2020 13:35 Eversince wrote:
On side notes.

Art looking way better. I'm a little disappointed he voted for me. That said I understand why he thinks it a possibility. I don't see a mafia agenda in it.

Cake is fine -thinking my activity level is alignment indicates for me.. Benefit of doubt though. We haven't played together much.
Overall I agree.

Grey is ok. I've no reason to scum lean. It was Art? I think iirc that scummed Grey? If that still is relevant let's talk.

Shock seems pretty fluffy. I'm not good at reading him yet. He's got few post with little to say. I would Lynch.

Vivax is posting lots more than I'm used to. While is ok normally.. I can't remember a single relevant thing. Red flags everywhere.

I hate no lynching. At this point people should decide between Vivax or myself. I hate to put myself in that position. Sadly I have less time than expected. Leaves me as a question for people and we don't have time for it.

I have a easy way to solve this problem though. I'll wait for thoughts. My time zone is rough to be able to chat with anyone t.t..


This is weird, first the "Vivax or me" part, if you are town you fight as hell to stay alive, well as mafia too but you, yourself calling your self "scummy" it is odd.

Now, how is shockey fluffy in this game?


Because Vivax has a lot of post they say not many things.
I have less time to play which will cause problems for me. Obvious reasons unless I'm playing with people that know my activity is always nia. Not the case.

The point of the game is to Lynch scum. Check basically any game I've ever played. I never advocate no lynch. Kill scum. If I'm wrong, I'll be wrong. Doing nothing doesn't sit right.

Conclusion is if it's going to be difficult for town to decide my alignment.. We lynch into the person I think is most scummy and the '?' (Me). Hopefully that makes sense.

As for Shock, on catching up it felt like he was absent, then around but not saying anything. Granted I did enjoy our conversation earlier. Re stating what I said before though. I feel better on Vivax still being a better lynch. -> so I say 'hmm.. I feel like you could be a fox eyeballing my hens, let me investigate this a little. So I did :p.


But when we were hydra together we sticked to Monadel's plan of not lynching because town loses more and it is a game as small as this.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 14:59 GMT
#312
Cake hun you know that's only because I let you make executive decisions basically all game.
I even said after Rayn died he'd of been passed for no lynching when we knew we had hit mafia 95%.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 14:59 GMT
#313
Ebwop

Pissed*
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22040 Posts
November 15 2020 15:00 GMT
#314
Balance wise I'd say 3p has to exist alongside 2 scum.

Don't really see a complex setup here cuz Slam probably just yolo'd it and think 2 scum vs 4 town is more likely.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22040 Posts
November 15 2020 15:01 GMT
#315
EBWOP: If 3p, it would exist alongside two scum (and make town sort of pointless?)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 15:01 GMT
#316
That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.

The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.

Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 15:06 GMT
#317
On November 16 2020 00:01 CopCake wrote:
That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.

The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.


Yes which is my poiby. Even if we weren't I still would pushed for a Lynch between a C.f. fight. But different scenarios. I'm not sure what this conversation is supposed to go from here though..

I don't think not lynching is a good play. Very few exceptions to this for me.

Does it make me scum?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 15:08 GMT
#318
Wow auto correct butchered that better than my neighbors.
I think it's readable. If not I'll type it again.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
November 15 2020 15:09 GMT
#319
On November 16 2020 00:06 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 00:01 CopCake wrote:
That case was different because we were the cop and knew shockey was lying.

The rest of the town didn't know so, if you put yourself in a "town with no info" the no lynch is always the safest decision.


Yes which is my poiby. Even if we weren't I still would pushed for a Lynch between a C.f. fight. But different scenarios. I'm not sure what this conversation is supposed to go from here though..

I don't think not lynching is a good play. Very few exceptions to this for me.

Does it make me scum?


What is odd is saying "between vivax and me".

You should have said "Vivax is most likely mafia"
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2020 15:12 GMT
#320
Why is me understanding the fact I'm be hard to read(always but more so when I'm pressed for time).
It seemed like most were concerned already on me.
I said what I thought, then said what I think was towns best option was?
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