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jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 13:20 GMT
#421
On June 04 2020 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Zey i have a question for you:
You explicitly asked me about why i scumread Vivax. Why didnt you have any follow up after my answer? I mean you must think that my case is either right or wrong or bad enough for me to be mafia. You followed the rest of the day with the thought of Vivax still not being mafia, why didnt you try to convince me voting either trfel or tictock since you vlearly thought my case is not good?


I'm actually also interested in hearing more about Zey, as my only reason to think she's town is Trfels scumminess really :D
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 14:10 GMT
#422
And what comes to people defending Vivax, I think there many.

Shock was very active looking for someone else to lynch.

Zey stated she was ready to lynch TicTock over Vivax. I don't really think Zey had enough thread presence to actively push another lynch, but she might have been ready to jump into another wagon if there was possibility. (Also both Vivax and Zey had TicTock in their lynch pool.)

Then there was Trfel.

And then there was Jock, who decided to lynch Cake because "everybody" were happy about Vivax lynch.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 14:25 GMT
#423
Hmmm, I guess scum!Vivax would not have been so upset if scum!Jock was in his wagon for some wolf theatre.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
June 04 2020 14:27 GMT
#424
On June 04 2020 23:25 jeekaka wrote:
Hmmm, I guess scum!Vivax would not have been so upset if scum!Jock was in his wagon for some wolf theatre.


Obviously you've never been scum with vivax
RIP Meatloaf <3
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 04 2020 14:32 GMT
#425
I fell for the simple mistake that I thought the mafia was the one fighting back, instead the actual mafia preferred to not do anything while I was sort of bashing heads with cop. It was just really hard for me to comprehend how cop could so stubbornly believe TT to be town there.

Trfel is still town hero. Maybe he is the new Palmar.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 14:56 GMT
#426
The hero we deseved.
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 14:57 GMT
#427
I cant stop laughing XD
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 14:58 GMT
#428
And I dont even know who is Palmar.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 04 2020 15:06 GMT
#429
Palmar is probably the oldest vet of the forum. He tends to have a good scum catch rate but in the latest games he got lynched very early for bad reasons so he kind of stopped enjoying the game.

He has a hard time dealing with the British divas that show up from time to time. *cough* HF *cough*
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 15:12 GMT
#430
Ok! Well Trfels scum catch rate has not impressed me this far and if you really think saving your ass was heroic you'd better start solving.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 04 2020 15:19 GMT
#431
Why though. I picked the townie out of my PoE, unfortunately, and still have two guesses to go. For now I see little reason to think one of my townreads is scum, but I'm watching the avenue Trfel is going down with rayn closely.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 04 2020 15:24 GMT
#432
On June 05 2020 00:06 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is probably the oldest vet of the forum. He tends to have a good scum catch rate but in the latest games he got lynched very early for bad reasons so he kind of stopped enjoying the game.

He has a hard time dealing with the British divas that show up from time to time. *cough* HF *cough*


I’m older than Palmar on these forums
Life?
jeekaka
Profile Joined May 2020
Finland111 Posts
June 04 2020 15:27 GMT
#433
Because if you are town, it would actually be helpful to see some town progress to make it possible to read you and maybe even point us to the tracks of the right scum.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2020 17:24 GMT
#434
Trying to get stuff done around the house today to prep for roommates Bday this weekend, so I'm kinda around but mostly just reading. Skimmed a bit but mostly caught up atm.

TinfoilTock really wants the scumteam to be Trfel/Vivax and they made the most epic slithering out of a noose I've ever seen.

I have a lot to say about Trfel right now, but I'd rather wait till I can fact check a little.

Paranoid me is worried Jeeka is trying to pocket me, but he's doing a really good job so I'm just gunna call him town and channel that paranoia into tinfoil.
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 04 2020 17:53 GMT
#435
I encourage peeps to look at TT's filter. It's kinda telling at quick glance.

- Settles for a very early cop townread.
- Agrees with cop early on Shockeyy being scum.
- His followup before deadline doesn't reflect any intention of directing the lynch either way, when he really should have a clear cut opinion of what the game should be doing.
- Most posts are rather focused at discussing stuff from all sorts of topics. Like asking me about what I was saying about cake, but not really coming out with something from it that would make him say I'm wrong and cake is town. Or I'm mafia and cake is town. He just kinda okay's the replies he gets and minds his own business.
- Instead asks me why he should consider zey, then asks Jock why he should consider me. Two posts he's doubting his Trfel read, then his read on me.

He has a very hands-off approach to the game. He did look at zey but didn't come out with a conclusion, just a question of whether zey thinks he's scum. Then he voted me for the sake of not voting cop. Again, easy out.

You don't get the feeling TT analyzes posts and asks question to reach a clear-cut way of seeing the game that he can stick to and influence the lynch the way he likes. It's really just a pretense to be insecure, while usually that should push townies towards reconsidering things in a hurry, he appears more calm and mechanical.

Shouldn't he have had a clear opinion to lynch Shockeyy considering he was questioning my townread on him?
That read just sort of went away towards the end and he was just contemplating Trfel, myself, even after I apparently swayed him that Shock could be town.

tl;dr: I don't think Ticktock has a real opinion on things and he's struggling to make it look like he does.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 04 2020 18:10 GMT
#436
Vivax why do you think Cop was town reading TT?
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 04 2020 18:40 GMT
#437
On June 05 2020 03:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Vivax why do you think Cop was town reading TT?


Well she said it was for agreeing with him for a bunch of stuff basically.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 04 2020 18:50 GMT
#438
TT was my second scummiest person, and Cop turned out town, I mean we have the N1 kill about to come up, and that will help in decided who we should try and lynch for D2, but TT seems like a long shot. I personally think it may be between Trfel and yourself.

And at this point I prefer to really dig into Trfel. I know you're a strong mafia player, but you're also a strong town player, and I rather watch how D2 turns out before I make my final decision.

So that leads me to ask why do you htink Trfel is your town hero? He's barely posted anything that is reliable as a town in my opinion. He thinks I'm mafia and thinks TT is town, so that would make you two disagree with each other on TT and I think that should be dug into even more.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 04 2020 18:52 GMT
#439
It feels like you and Trfel are trying to make plays on getting either myself or TT lynched for D2.
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 04 2020 18:53 GMT
#440
Will consider looking into him a bit harder.
But basically he's been very townie last game and lynched regardless, so maybe now he cba to try too hard.
But that's the point, he's not trying to look like he's trying hard and the way he casually called out rayn felt townie to me.
As mafia he was more...Contributive, but in a quantity over quality way. While he talked about a lot of stuff you didn't get a picture of where his head was at, much like I feel about TT this game.
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