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Trfel
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Trfel
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The thing that makes me doubt (other than ShoCkeyy being difficult to read, caveat that I've read him correctly as both alignments) is that he did seem to care who was lynched Day 1. That makes me more unsure and hesitant. | ||
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Trfel
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And second, he doesn't feel very invested. He's been here and calling things out and it's logical and makes sense but he can do that as mafia, easily. But it doesn't feel like he really cares about what he's saying. He didn't clearly and concisely say why he thought Vivax was mafia until requested to, where if he really wanted Vivax lynched he could post a case on his own accord and actually push for that lynch. Before the flip raynpelikoneet didn't seem to care, and after he didn't seem to care either, only talking about Jockmcplop and not any of his other scumreads. I'm trying to not focus too hard on deadline stuff because apparently he needed to sleep but despite that he feels a bit disconnected and slightly apathetic to the game, despite being very present. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Trfel
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On June 04 2020 16:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think he plays in a similar way when he is mafia? (doing things that make people think he is mafia) And as far as being irrational, it feels to me like he tried to capitalize on a chance for free scumreads but couldn't produce a reason to justify it when pressured. Feels like he made it up.But why would shockeyy be orrational and do things that make people call him mafia if he is mafia, trfel? I could be wrong but that's my thinking right now anyway. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Jockmcplop
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On June 04 2020 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you explain this to me as i am 5, because: - self preservation, even if it's that, doesnt make anyone anything because townies too probably think someone else is a better lynch than them,right? -threat to switch to trfel and her not switching only ever makes copcake mafia if trfel is mafia too So wtf jock???? I can explain my thinking yeah. Its all in my filter really i was just deciding whether to lynch vivax and a green flip would have implicated copcake or to just go for copcake. At the time when she was going to maybe switch to trfel, i was losing interest in the vivax lynch, and if i switched it would leave a bunch of players on two votes, including copcake. Her wanting to switch to trfel looked like self preserving at the expense of the lynch she wanted (she'd rather just lynch whoever than her her lynch target because as mafia survival is the only priority). It also kinda looked like she didn't care who got lynched. That's why in my filter there are these posts: (I was already thinking what shockeyy was thinking here) On June 04 2020 04:55 Jockmcplop wrote: I still like the vivax lynch. Copcake said she was deciding whether vivax would play like this as scum and i really want to know what she thinks. On June 04 2020 05:31 Jockmcplop wrote: So copcake you switching to trfel? (This was me being super sus of copcake) It just looked wrong to me. Waiting for Vivax to vote for her and then just going in on the vivax kill, the 'maybe i'll switch to trfel' when the vivax kill looked like it might not happen. Add to that: On June 04 2020 05:18 CopCake wrote: Nah, you can town read someone and that person be wrong. Nothing bad about it since you are studying Shockey's feelings. :p This, when i was already considering that i was maybe being pocketed by copcake, looked bad in that context. I was wrong, so sorry Copcake :/ | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Jockmcplop
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On June 04 2020 20:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why were you losing interest in Vivax lynch? I felt no-one was fighting against it, and i couldn't shake the 'too mafia to be mafia' feeling i was having. I was also worried that the last game where we were mafia together was coloring my opinion on this game unfairly. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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What was shockeyy supposed to do? He already had three scumreads which none of was vivax. Zey wasnt around(?) Jeekaka fell asleep. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
On June 04 2020 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Trfel was fighting against it? What was shockeyy supposed to do? He already had three scumreads which none of was vivax. Zey wasnt around(?) Jeekaka fell asleep. That's how it felt to me at the time. Its all in my filter from last night. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
On June 04 2020 05:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Everyone except shockeyy is ok with vivax/trfel and shockeyy is my town read. Feels bad. I'm feeling maybe I've got day 1 very wrong. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
On June 04 2020 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: You realise that there is 2 mafia in this game? If vivax and trfel are mafia (which is something at least i find highly possible) then why should anyone else be wary of lynching into vivax/trfel from town pov?? You don't have to try and convince me i was wrong. Copcake flipped town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Which is why the last question. So your explanation is just that you fucked up? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
On June 04 2020 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am kot trying to convince you of you being wrong. There is nothing scummy in being wrong in general because people are wrong all the time in this game. I am trying to figure out your motives because it doesnt add up to me. Which is why the last question. So your explanation is just that you fucked up? mmmm yeah. I fucked up. I have explained what I was thinking at the time and it makes sense. Its always the question on day 1. Do you vote for the people who are openly scummy or the people you think are trying to plan something? To me it looked like copcake was planning whereas both trfel and vivax were just being openly not very townie but without trying to do anything sneaky. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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You explicitly asked me about why i scumread Vivax. Why didnt you have any follow up after my answer? I mean you must think that my case is either right or wrong or bad enough for me to be mafia. You followed the rest of the day with the thought of Vivax still not being mafia, why didnt you try to convince me voting either trfel or tictock since you vlearly thought my case is not good? | ||
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