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On April 30 2020 00:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Kurumi if you think this is spammy you would have hated it a couple years ago...
Shit more like 5 years ago Yea, I went from 40 players with about 20 page games to 10 players with 200+ pages, now its 10 with 70 pages, so not that bad anymore.
I do know. I've been part of this forum for 9 years now and did my fair share of spamming.
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:alakaslam: + Show Spoiler +On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally. On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.
If Vivax is right.
But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason. You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it. Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.
Trfel's questions were useless or bad. One they asked Alakaslam made absolutely no sense given that Trfel was one giving a cop-out. The way they questioned me about my opening post was not to make me introduce me into the game, but to learn how committed I am to the game. Why do they need to know how committed I am to the game? Well, it makes deciding how the N1 KP goes.
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Well, it makes deciding how the N1 KP goes a lot easier.
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On April 29 2020 16:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Hey guys, meta reads here. I will lead town to victory. Hey Shockeyy can you open up this post for a bit more?
Just watch the thread, you'll see. But in all seriousness, I was just referring to the amount of time I can put into the game. If this would of started last week, forget about it, I was dealing with a lot of company issues... This week, I'm free as a bird, so I'll just be putting a lot of effort into winning the game; especially how I lost my last game 
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On April 30 2020 00:23 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list. Why koshi?
That entrance is sounds totally like Koshi mafia entrance.
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On April 30 2020 00:27 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 30 2020 00:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Kurumi if you think this is spammy you would have hated it a couple years ago...
Shit more like 5 years ago Yea, I went from 40 players with about 20 page games to 10 players with 200+ pages, now its 10 with 70 pages, so not that bad anymore. I do know. I've been part of this forum for 9 years now and did my fair share of spamming. Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:alakaslam: + Show Spoiler +On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally. On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.
If Vivax is right.
But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason. You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it. Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel. Trfel's questions were useless or bad. One they asked Alakaslam made absolutely no sense given that Trfel was one giving a cop-out. The way they questioned me about my opening post was not to make me introduce me into the game, but to learn how committed I am to the game. Why do they need to know how committed I am to the game? Well, it makes deciding how the N1 KP goes.
I don't know whether to disagree with you or scumread you.
I can't see how you've had such a reaction to rayn and trfel questioning how you started the game. You seem genuinely pissed off and i don't get why. Trfel's post is one that you see in about 70% of game openings and sometimes its a town post; sometimes its a mafia post, but you really can't tell from whether someone follows up on day 1 by being exactly as active as they said they would.
I also really don't buy this theory that rayn and trfel are mafia coming after you for pinging trfel. Mafia are probably trying to hide or just watch right now. Maybe one of them is, but both, like this on day one? Nah
On April 30 2020 00:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:23 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 30 2020 00:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list. Why koshi? That entrance is sounds totally like Koshi mafia entrance.
say no more
##vote: koshi
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Fuck it, let's turn the heat up a bit.
##vote: Koshi
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Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far
Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote
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On April 30 2020 00:27 Jockmcplop wrote:-snip- Holy wall of text Batman. You also seem overdefensive in this post (for someone who doesn't have any votes on them.) Show nested quote +Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars. Rayn goes on saying that I'm illogically pushing Trfel for this, as if nothing Trfel would've done would change my attitude towards them. So here's what I can give on this front: if Trfel were truthful to their game-opening declaration, they'd be suspicious to me. BUT they would not be read as scum to me simply because of lack of information. Given how all this turned out, I believe Trfel to be scum. Are you sure trfel was lying and didn't just get into the game more than he expected to?
Wall of text? You people don't do big list posts or case posts anymore?
As for the overdefensive comment, I'll take that as a good joke.
Why do they think they have to get into the game more when all that's happened is I pinged them out? Overdefensive much, huh?
On April 30 2020 00:42 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:27 Kurumi wrote:On April 30 2020 00:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 30 2020 00:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Kurumi if you think this is spammy you would have hated it a couple years ago...
Shit more like 5 years ago Yea, I went from 40 players with about 20 page games to 10 players with 200+ pages, now its 10 with 70 pages, so not that bad anymore. I do know. I've been part of this forum for 9 years now and did my fair share of spamming. On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:alakaslam: + Show Spoiler +On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally. On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.
If Vivax is right.
But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason. You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it. Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel. Trfel's questions were useless or bad. One they asked Alakaslam made absolutely no sense given that Trfel was one giving a cop-out. The way they questioned me about my opening post was not to make me introduce me into the game, but to learn how committed I am to the game. Why do they need to know how committed I am to the game? Well, it makes deciding how the N1 KP goes. I don't know whether to disagree with you or scumread you. I can't see how you've had such a reaction to rayn and trfel questioning how you started the game. You seem genuinely pissed off and i don't get why. Trfel's post is one that you see in about 70% of game openings and sometimes its a town post; sometimes its a mafia post, but you really can't tell from whether someone follows up on day 1 by being exactly as active as they said they would. I also really don't buy this theory that rayn and trfel are mafia coming after you for pinging trfel. Mafia are probably trying to hide or just watch right now. Maybe one of them is, but both, like this on day one? Nah -snip-
Then that's bad practice you allow it. It sets up a potential deflection with "well, gee I told you guys I'm not going to do much..." which only creates confusion in the discussion. Look at what's happened: I call out Trfel ever so slightly and rayn comes swinging at me for no reason, so deep to even implicate himself, but never pushing himself to vote, mostly attacking me instead of defending Trfel. Basically, discrediting me instead of committing to defending Trfel.
As for you comment to what Mafia is currently doing... why? You just voted Koshi, who's posted NOTHING besides promise of contributing for "pressure". He's pressured himself already a lot more than your vote did. And Shockeyy's. You're abandoning what's already developed in the thread to deflect onto one of the lurkers.
And what the fuck is this "Maybe one of them is, but both, like this on day one? Nah". WHY? So you scumread one of them? What is this sentence even?
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On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment. Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?
Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days? Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today  I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out. So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about? Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post. Maybe a bit of stimulation will help. ##Vote: FF I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead. Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post: Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans. Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before? He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player. shit i think we should kill him then You want to butt heads, eh?  What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game? Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about. And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with. Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?
I didn't see this post previously but this seems better than rayns accusation. Also it involves me so it's more interesting by default
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Jock seems opportunistic for the koshi vote and shockkeeeyy seems like he was just throwing shit at the wall and was surprised it stuck
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On April 30 2020 00:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Jock seems opportunistic for the koshi vote and shockkeeeyy seems like he was just throwing shit at the wall and was surprised it stuck
Jock maybe. Shockey was correct or at least fair to say it.
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On April 30 2020 01:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Jock seems opportunistic for the koshi vote and shockkeeeyy seems like he was just throwing shit at the wall and was surprised it stuck Jock maybe. Shockey was correct or at least fair to say it.
The initial post yes but he voted immediately after jock voted.
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On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far
Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote
What do you dislike about my post?
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On April 30 2020 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far
Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote What do you dislike about my post?
Real quick it seems based on your idea of what kurumi was thinking rather than what was said let me do a real post later
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On April 30 2020 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far
Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote What do you dislike about my post? Real quick it seems based on your idea of what kurumi was thinking rather than what was said let me do a real post later
Did you miss the part where Kurumi basically said that what i wrote is accurate?  sure its ip to debate if it makes him mafia or not but... lol
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On April 30 2020 01:04 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 01:03 Koshi wrote:On April 30 2020 00:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Jock seems opportunistic for the koshi vote and shockkeeeyy seems like he was just throwing shit at the wall and was surprised it stuck Jock maybe. Shockey was correct or at least fair to say it. The initial post yes but he voted immediately after jock voted.
Yeah why wouldnt he do it as townie though. First a decent remark on my opening, then a pressure vote after jock.
All good in my book.
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On April 30 2020 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote:On April 30 2020 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far
Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote What do you dislike about my post? Real quick it seems based on your idea of what kurumi was thinking rather than what was said let me do a real post later Did you miss the part where Kurumi basically said that what i wrote is accurate? sure its ip to debate if it makes him mafia or not but... lol
Obviously i did miss that
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On April 30 2020 00:58 Kurumi wrote:
Wall of text? You people don't do big list posts or case posts anymore?
As for the overdefensive comment, I'll take that as a good joke.
Why do they think they have to get into the game more when all that's happened is I pinged them out? Overdefensive much, huh?
I meant wall of text as in you didn't press enter at all and it makes it harder to read.
Then that's bad practice you allow it. It sets up a potential deflection with "well, gee I told you guys I'm not going to do much..." which only creates confusion in the discussion. Look at what's happened: I call out Trfel ever so slightly and rayn comes swinging at me for no reason, so deep to even implicate himself, but never pushing himself to vote, mostly attacking me instead of defending Trfel.
Meh. Most of the time posts like that come from town.
Anywayit looks to me like rayn's just pressuring you to see what happens. As for trfel he could be mafia but he hasn't posted anything so far that makes me think he is.
As for you comment to what Mafia is currently doing... why? You just voted Koshi, who's posted NOTHING besides promise of contributing for "pressure". He's pressured himself already a lot more than your vote did. And Shockeyy's. You're abandoning what's already developed in the thread to deflect onto one of the lurkers.
Clearly my tongue was in my cheek for that vote, hence the smiley and the fact that of course i don't just believe shockeyy that koshi made his mafia entrance, or even has a koshi style of mafia entrance.
And what the fuck is this "Maybe one of them is, but both, like this on day one? Nah". WHY? So you scumread one of them? What is this sentence even?
I just don't think mafia would expose and align themselves that much as to both push you at the same time when nothing else has happened/is happening. I don't scumread either of them tbh.
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On April 30 2020 01:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 01:04 Fecalfeast wrote:On April 30 2020 01:03 Koshi wrote:On April 30 2020 00:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Jock seems opportunistic for the koshi vote and shockkeeeyy seems like he was just throwing shit at the wall and was surprised it stuck Jock maybe. Shockey was correct or at least fair to say it. The initial post yes but he voted immediately after jock voted. Yeah why wouldnt he do it as townie though. First a decent remark on my opening, then a pressure vote after jock. All good in my book.
Fair enough
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