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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 29 2020 17:19 GMT
#201
On April 30 2020 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I sm going to have to read what jock has posted when i grt home. I am just loosely following the thread at work.

I'm doing the same
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:17 GMT
#202
I think Kurumi comes out very town in the exchange between him and rayn. Kurumi was aggressive interrogatory towards rayn and rayn was "gtg I go sleep and reread tomorrow" which shows weakness.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:32 GMT
#203
GB is not making any waves. Very slippery.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:36 GMT
#204
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:39 GMT
#205
On April 30 2020 03:17 Koshi wrote:
I think Kurumi comes out very town in the exchange between him and rayn. Kurumi was aggressive interrogatory towards rayn and rayn was "gtg I go sleep and reread tomorrow" which shows weakness.

No this is not fair towards rayn. He gave his opinion with restricted enthousiasm as well.

I am still fine with rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:42 GMT
#206
On April 30 2020 03:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.

I think the posts Jock quoted here are pretty good posts to quote.

Slam does appear to hide behind a potential thread leading townie while townish-reading the person that is scumread by said person.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:42 GMT
#207
Good stuff Jock. I had to reread your post 5 times but I get it now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:48 GMT
#208
On April 30 2020 01:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 01:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait jock says his vote on koshi was jokes?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Nah I genuinely thought he was mafia after his one post and shockeyy saying that post made him mafia. I was convinced. but alas! Now I have seen the light.

##unvote: koshi


No way.

##Unvote
##Vote: Jockmcplop


You're mafia.

The difference between the conviction in the posts from kurumi/fefe and here gb is why I think the first 2 arz town and gb is mafia.

I also had the wtf how scummy is the jock fella with his vote and backtrack on me. But I also had a healthy amount of doubt and confusion.

I think fefe and kurumi both showed some conservatism in their posts.


GB did not. GB looked like a wolf jumping on a poor misguided sheep.

##Vote GB
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 18:51 GMT
#209
Hey Koshi are you around in an hour or so?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:53 GMT
#210
Anyway. Seems like Vivax and rayn think slam is town. GB not mentioned a lot.

I shall keep an eye on these 2 then. GB without doubt most mafia guy in the thread so far.

No waves
Wolftype attack on obvious mafiaish post made by thinking about the game townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 18:54 GMT
#211
On April 30 2020 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Koshi are you around in an hour or so?

I could be but watching tv most likely.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 19:02 GMT
#212
On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?

Also not the worst post tbh.

My thoughts are that Kurumi showed interest in rayns alignment by asking him question which rayn could or could not correctly answer from Kurumi's POV.

I think Kurumi scumreading rayn after the exchange shows that Kurumi was not impressed by rayn his answers and therefore scumreads him.

Which is a very townie thought and handling process.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 19:06 GMT
#213
On April 30 2020 00:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 13:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don’t like a couple of slam posts so far. He’s on my scummy list.
Care to explain which ones?


Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 04:36 Alakaslam wrote:
But well what of it, dead game is dead game will come back when she wakes up


His post here about dead game being a dead game, then his follow up post here to you Trfel.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.


Typically as town I act like I don't care, but I do care. As a mafia member, I actually wouldn't care about what town thinks since the end game is winning and killing town.

@rayn

Do you understand why Shockey thinks slam is mafia? If you do, do you believe that Shockey should think slam is mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 19:10 GMT
#214
1 GB
2 Shockey
3 Slam

Current list. Ordered by preferred lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22132 Posts
April 29 2020 19:13 GMT
#215
On April 30 2020 00:12 Koshi wrote:
Been a while. Glad this didnt start 2 days earlier. I'll see what I can come up with.


On April 30 2020 00:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 00:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list.

Why koshi?


That entrance is sounds totally like Koshi mafia entrance.


Okay, why?


On April 30 2020 00:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 00:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list.

Why koshi?


That entrance is sounds totally like Koshi mafia entrance.


say no more
##vote: koshi



What?And this was serious?

Jock what is this shit?

On April 29 2020 23:21 Jockmcplop wrote:
Is it bad or not?

Let's let Team Liquid decide.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


This post is bad and you should feel bad for it.


Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.


oh.
@Glowingbear why is this such a bad post to you? I mean I don't agree with it really or see how it will have the intended effect but it doesn't seem so bad from an AI perspective


Why the 'let TL decide part', and then it's just about me voting FF, but you somehow quote Kurumi and then end up asking GB about it. Could you walk me through what you were thinking doing that?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 19:14 GMT
#216
On April 30 2020 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 00:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Kurumi if you think this is spammy you would have hated it a couple years ago...

Shit more like 5 years ago


Yea, I went from 40 players with about 20 page games to 10 players with 200+ pages, now its 10 with 70 pages, so not that bad anymore.


I do know. I've been part of this forum for 9 years now and did my fair share of spamming.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.



Trfel's questions were useless or bad. One they asked Alakaslam made absolutely no sense given that Trfel was one giving a cop-out. The way they questioned me about my opening post was not to make me introduce me into the game, but to learn how committed I am to the game. Why do they need to know how committed I am to the game? Well, it makes deciding how the N1 KP goes.

That's just your opinion and you should let people play like they want. You may or may not be tunneled already because linking simple questions to scum nkdeciding couple hours into the game sounds supertunneled. Pretty sure no scum ever did that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 19:15 GMT
#217
Hi detective Vivax! How are you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 29 2020 19:18 GMT
#218
##vote glowingbear

Let's do this
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22132 Posts
April 29 2020 19:22 GMT
#219
On April 30 2020 04:15 Koshi wrote:
Hi detective Vivax! How are you?


Feel like shit tbh. I have a feeling the 'rona doesn't really go away and I slept through the rest of the day after coming home. Now I'll be up most of the night.

Gonna look into GB real quick.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 29 2020 19:25 GMT
#220
On April 30 2020 01:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 01:30 Kurumi wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 30 2020 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Dislike rayns post on kurumi and i like kurumi so far

Shockckckckckeyyyy why is it a koshi mafia entrance and why did it take until jock voted for you to vote

What do you dislike about my post?

Real quick it seems based on your idea of what kurumi was thinking rather than what was said let me do a real post later

Did you miss the part where Kurumi basically said that what i wrote is accurate? sure its ip to debate if it makes him mafia or not but... lol

Obviously i did miss that


Because it never happened. Or, at least until rayn shows where this has happened.

Can we resolve this

Rayn can you address this?

Where did kurumi say your narrative was correct?
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