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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:22 GMT
#241
Vivax, are you still in Slam is town train?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22299 Posts
April 29 2020 20:22 GMT
#242
On April 29 2020 13:47 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 13:41 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 13:28 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 10:40 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi Trfel can we be friends this game?
Hopefully, that's kinda on you though

On April 29 2020 07:26 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:
[quote]I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where).

The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what.


I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!


So why were you asking me about how I'm going to play this game, exactly?
Because your post didn't make sense to me.

Claiming you planned on doing a lot of meta reads doesn't make sense if you're unfamiliar with many/most of the players in the game, which I thought you were. Therefore, I was asking to try and learn more about what you meant by that. It makes more sense now that you said you were just faking confidence.

It just feels a bit weird for me for town to come into the thread right at the start of day 1 and say "I'm gonna meta read everyone like crazy," especially if they don't know everyone. But it makes more sense now that you've clarified it.

On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.
Alakaslam, do you really care what people think of you when you're mafia?

On April 29 2020 10:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?


Fishing for how I'm committed to the game is not something I'm going to write up as "Town" in my book. Especially when someone declares that they're going to be less than committed. And as I've stated already in agreement to Vivax, me going for meta reads might not be the best course of action.

I am talking to you "like there is nothing wrong in your behaviour" because it is still early in the game and you might be going off one thing, like you've admitted. I also read your first post after "hi" as combative and wanted to know whether it is light-hearted or not, but you didn't acknowledge me asking about it. Besides, bringing more information into the thread is never wrong, especially when we establish connections people have to each other based on their reactions and interactions.

On April 29 2020 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.



Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.


Although I agree with you about Trfel's opening, it will only be proven if he in fact acts lazy and uses his opening as a cop-out. If he is mafia, he could be using that excuse right out of the bat and simply not play. Trfel usually asks lots of questions as town, forcing people to contribute to the thread. That's townie from him. But I'll let him explain himself.

Actually, @Trfel, one question: why do you believe you'll be lazy in this game? Are you uninterested?
I'm slightly demotivated/a little tired of mafia, yes. I wouldn't have played if there was another person who signed up for the 12th slot. I was serious about being just as happy to not play as to play.

However, I was mostly joking, to see people's reactions. It clearly wouldn't make much sense for me to try and give an excuse at the start of the game when I easily could have done so a few hours before. With the one caveat being that I tend to be a lower page-count player these past few games/years, I try to be more efficient with my posts, and I think it's been working fairly well. I just know some people tend to view that as suspicious.


So you plan to not be lazy?
Also, what do you think of the reactions so far?
I dunno. You get what you get.

Honestly I'm kinda confused, I'm just in a place where I'm trying to get more information and hoping something comes of it. Lemme reread the thread and see.

I'll be around for a bit if anyone wants to talk.


I'll bite.
Assume I wanted to vote for rayn right now, what do you think would be the reason?
I'd think that it's because he made a weakly -reasoned townread on me, and was over-defensive of this read when Kurumi asked about it. I don't really know what to think about what he said about Kurumi; on one hand I agree that Kurumi felt weird around that time, but I don't think it was for the reason that raynpelikoneet mentioned.

My two cents, anyway.


On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


These two posts still don't feel right to me though.
It's like he's seeing reasons for both to be mafia then feels pressured to make a case on Kurumi because of it.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 29 2020 20:23 GMT
#243
On reflection while I ate lunch.

##Vote: ShoCkeyy

Don’t want to lynch the more active player between the two.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22299 Posts
April 29 2020 20:25 GMT
#244
On April 30 2020 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, are you still in Slam is town train?


On a 'don't want to lynch him today'-level of confidence, yes.
I'm not too much of a slam-whisperer and know I misread him as town in the past.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:26 GMT
#245
On April 30 2020 05:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 13:47 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 13:41 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 13:28 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 10:40 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi Trfel can we be friends this game?
Hopefully, that's kinda on you though

On April 29 2020 07:26 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here.

On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:
[quote]

I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long.


I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now.
Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining!


So why were you asking me about how I'm going to play this game, exactly?
Because your post didn't make sense to me.

Claiming you planned on doing a lot of meta reads doesn't make sense if you're unfamiliar with many/most of the players in the game, which I thought you were. Therefore, I was asking to try and learn more about what you meant by that. It makes more sense now that you said you were just faking confidence.

It just feels a bit weird for me for town to come into the thread right at the start of day 1 and say "I'm gonna meta read everyone like crazy," especially if they don't know everyone. But it makes more sense now that you've clarified it.

On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.
Alakaslam, do you really care what people think of you when you're mafia?

On April 29 2020 10:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 29 2020 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
[...]
-asked me how I'm going to play and fished for whether I checked out the player roster for past games and meta
-now questions GlowingBear about Vivax which is first "OK" thing.
[...]

See these are not "only asking questions" things. Regardless of that, i really liked his thought process on your "meta shenanigans" post. I am waiting to see what kind of meta reads you will cook up. You haven't played in what... three years?

I also heavily dislike your approach towards me, because you seem to be thinking Trfel is not doing anything but asking useless questions, and i am not (before this) giving you pretty much anything on that front except for support on him for "no apparent reason". Why are you talking to me like there is nothing wrong in my behavior?


Fishing for how I'm committed to the game is not something I'm going to write up as "Town" in my book. Especially when someone declares that they're going to be less than committed. And as I've stated already in agreement to Vivax, me going for meta reads might not be the best course of action.

I am talking to you "like there is nothing wrong in your behaviour" because it is still early in the game and you might be going off one thing, like you've admitted. I also read your first post after "hi" as combative and wanted to know whether it is light-hearted or not, but you didn't acknowledge me asking about it. Besides, bringing more information into the thread is never wrong, especially when we establish connections people have to each other based on their reactions and interactions.

On April 29 2020 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more clear; Is it normal for a guy who is mafia to say "hey i am gonna lurk and only be around mostly at time X", then question people and follow that up with ANYTHING?

Now i am not saying this CANT be mafia, but like... I think i tried slowwwwwwly try to get Kurumi off that thing in case he genuinely thought that was mafia behavior (in general i mean). I guess no luck, and i think that smells.



Oh come on Ray, what kind of reasoning is this? If anything, we should be concerned that someone that has shown less interest in the game changes their behaviour so fast. If that's the whole picture, that is.


Although I agree with you about Trfel's opening, it will only be proven if he in fact acts lazy and uses his opening as a cop-out. If he is mafia, he could be using that excuse right out of the bat and simply not play. Trfel usually asks lots of questions as town, forcing people to contribute to the thread. That's townie from him. But I'll let him explain himself.

Actually, @Trfel, one question: why do you believe you'll be lazy in this game? Are you uninterested?
I'm slightly demotivated/a little tired of mafia, yes. I wouldn't have played if there was another person who signed up for the 12th slot. I was serious about being just as happy to not play as to play.

However, I was mostly joking, to see people's reactions. It clearly wouldn't make much sense for me to try and give an excuse at the start of the game when I easily could have done so a few hours before. With the one caveat being that I tend to be a lower page-count player these past few games/years, I try to be more efficient with my posts, and I think it's been working fairly well. I just know some people tend to view that as suspicious.


So you plan to not be lazy?
Also, what do you think of the reactions so far?
I dunno. You get what you get.

Honestly I'm kinda confused, I'm just in a place where I'm trying to get more information and hoping something comes of it. Lemme reread the thread and see.

I'll be around for a bit if anyone wants to talk.


I'll bite.
Assume I wanted to vote for rayn right now, what do you think would be the reason?
I'd think that it's because he made a weakly -reasoned townread on me, and was over-defensive of this read when Kurumi asked about it. I don't really know what to think about what he said about Kurumi; on one hand I agree that Kurumi felt weird around that time, but I don't think it was for the reason that raynpelikoneet mentioned.

My two cents, anyway.


Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


These two posts still don't feel right to me though.
It's like he's seeing reasons for both to be mafia then feels pressured to make a case on Kurumi because of it.

No that is not how I read that at all.

He says Kurumi should be investigating rayn more but isn't and just focussed on him without a good enough reason in his eyes.

And if Trfel is town that alligns quite well. He cant understand why kurumi thinks he is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:29 GMT
#246
On April 30 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Sup rayn? Saunas still your thing?

of course.

Here's the thing Koshi, last two games i have completely fucked up because the most obvious people (who did terrible shit) were mafia. I am very very tempted to vote for Jock here because he did something absolutely terrible. Why do you think the whole scheme with his voting and unvoting on you doesn't make him mafia?

The posts he quoted about slam are legit. Read what I say about them. It is good jock pointed that out.

I also believe jock is showing effort to look into the mindset of players on a level a scum would not be botjered to do unless they are very skilled as mafia.


Jock his vote and unvote on me is potentially a townie being too careless and doing something un his eyes fun that is perceived as super duper mafia by the thread.

Too mafia to be mafia? Maybe. I shall not judge jock for that 1 thing.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:35 GMT
#247
On April 30 2020 05:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Sup rayn? Saunas still your thing?

of course.

Here's the thing Koshi, last two games i have completely fucked up because the most obvious people (who did terrible shit) were mafia. I am very very tempted to vote for Jock here because he did something absolutely terrible. Why do you think the whole scheme with his voting and unvoting on you doesn't make him mafia?

The posts he quoted about slam are legit. Read what I say about them. It is good jock pointed that out.

I am trying to find it but i can't.

I also believe jock is showing effort to look into the mindset of players on a level a scum would not be botjered to do unless they are very skilled as mafia.


Jock his vote and unvote on me is potentially a townie being too careless and doing something un his eyes fun that is perceived as super duper mafia by the thread.

Too mafia to be mafia? Maybe. I shall not judge jock for that 1 thing.

Jock is very good at playing this game as mafia until he does something really stupid. Which i think he did.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:35 GMT
#248
GB:
Silly questions
No waves
Bit unfunny oncomfortable gif
Comes out of lurk to devour poor green jock
Excuses to continue lurk
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:35 GMT
#249
On April 30 2020 03:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.

Here
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:36 GMT
#250
On April 30 2020 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:29 Koshi wrote:
On April 30 2020 05:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 05:18 Koshi wrote:
Sup rayn? Saunas still your thing?

of course.

Here's the thing Koshi, last two games i have completely fucked up because the most obvious people (who did terrible shit) were mafia. I am very very tempted to vote for Jock here because he did something absolutely terrible. Why do you think the whole scheme with his voting and unvoting on you doesn't make him mafia?

The posts he quoted about slam are legit. Read what I say about them. It is good jock pointed that out.

I am trying to find it but i can't.

Show nested quote +
I also believe jock is showing effort to look into the mindset of players on a level a scum would not be botjered to do unless they are very skilled as mafia.


Jock his vote and unvote on me is potentially a townie being too careless and doing something un his eyes fun that is perceived as super duper mafia by the thread.

Too mafia to be mafia? Maybe. I shall not judge jock for that 1 thing.

Jock is very good at playing this game as mafia until he does something really stupid. Which i think he did.

Well. I cant judge meta on him.
I can see it be an innocent mistake.
If he is too good to make that mistake. Maybe he is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:38 GMT
#251
On April 30 2020 04:02 Koshi wrote:
My thoughts are that Kurumi showed interest in rayns alignment by asking him question which rayn could or could not correctly answer from Kurumi's POV.

I think Kurumi scumreading rayn after the exchange shows that Kurumi was not impressed by rayn his answers and therefore scumreads him.

Which is a very townie thought and handling process.

I honestly don't agree with this at all, being on the "receiving end" here. I mean that's not how i feel like it went at all. But i am not really interested in Kurumi right now, probably not a D1 lynch anyways.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22299 Posts
April 29 2020 20:39 GMT
#252
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
GB:
Silly questions
No waves
Bit unfunny oncomfortable gif
Comes out of lurk to devour poor green jock
Excuses to continue lurk


i lol'd

Rayn what's the really dumb thing Jock did?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:40 GMT
#253
Jock is very very capable of making very townie looking posts as mafia but at points his conclusions don't match his posts. That's pretty much Jock.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:40 GMT
#254
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 03:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.

Here

Read it multiple times and try to understand jock.

It is an attack on slam with indepth analysis on kurumi. That proofs he is thinking about the game on a decent level.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:40 GMT
#255
On April 30 2020 05:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
GB:
Silly questions
No waves
Bit unfunny oncomfortable gif
Comes out of lurk to devour poor green jock
Excuses to continue lurk


i lol'd

Rayn what's the really dumb thing Jock did?

The whole voting Koshi then unvoting and every piece of it for shit reasons.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:42 GMT
#256
On April 30 2020 05:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
On April 30 2020 03:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.

Here

Read it multiple times and try to understand jock.

It is an attack on slam with indepth analysis on kurumi. That proofs he is thinking about the game on a decent level.

Okay, and then he does what? Vote for you because Shockeyy said some random shit?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:45 GMT
#257
On April 30 2020 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jock is very very capable of making very townie looking posts as mafia but at points his conclusions don't match his posts. That's pretty much Jock.

Hmm ok. That post looked townie to me. I would like to keep him alive till people like gb actually do something.

Like you think GB is not lurking but opened this thread at random, stumbeled on jock his post, decided jock must be 1000% mafia, and posted an excuse to lurk again instead of trying to convince the thread why jovk is mafia?
Or be like arrogant he didnt have to do shit anymore cuz he found 100% mafia or something?

Dnu. Felt fake as fuck. Entire GB.



But I should afk a bit because I am getting tunneled.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:46 GMT
#258
On April 30 2020 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
On April 30 2020 03:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.


This post shows jock is thinking about the game and the thought process of others.

Is townie.

Here

Read it multiple times and try to understand jock.

It is an attack on slam with indepth analysis on kurumi. That proofs he is thinking about the game on a decent level.

Okay, and then he does what? Vote for you because Shockeyy said some random shit?

Some people have a fucked up sense of what is funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 20:47 GMT
#259
GB is sick. I am playing a diplomacy game with him atm, he is legit sick. That doesn't make him town or mafia with what he has posted but yeah..
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 29 2020 20:48 GMT
#260
On April 30 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is sick. I am playing a diplomacy game with him atm, he is legit sick. That doesn't make him town or mafia with what he has posted but yeah..

I am not saying he isnt sick. But when I am town and sick I play more than when I am mafia and sick.
I had a good night of sleep.
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