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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 29 2020 22:37 GMT
#281
Granted I worded it like shit and could have probably packed it into a single sentence like I did now. And to me it doesn't matter anymore. I'm feeling goodish about rayn as long as he keeps poking.

Shockeyy still need you to explain why Koshi's entrance was scummy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 29 2020 22:38 GMT
#282
On April 30 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:
I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town.

Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened.

Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well.

And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that.

Summing it up:
It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games.

So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it
And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to.

##Unvote
##Vote rayn
Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it

No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused.

I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread.


In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game.
And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable.
It seems convoluted because it is.

i am not sure if i should play mafia.
I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire.


Why did you expect me to call you mafia for what I did?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 22:39 GMT
#283
On April 30 2020 07:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:
I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town.

Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened.

Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well.

And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that.

Summing it up:
It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games.

So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it
And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to.

##Unvote
##Vote rayn
Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it

No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused.

I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread.


In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game.
And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable.
It seems convoluted because it is.

i am not sure if i should play mafia.
I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire.


Why did you expect me to call you mafia for what I did?

because you always do?
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 22:42 GMT
#284
On April 30 2020 07:37 Vivax wrote:
Granted I worded it like shit and could have probably packed it into a single sentence like I did now. And to me it doesn't matter anymore. I'm feeling goodish about rayn as long as he keeps poking.

Shockeyy still need you to explain why Koshi's entrance was scummy.


I gotta answer a few others but a quick gist is that he used the same entrance from what I recall when I played Mafia along side him.
Life?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 29 2020 22:43 GMT
#285
On April 30 2020 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 07:38 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:
I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town.

Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened.

Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well.

And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that.

Summing it up:
It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games.

So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it
And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to.

##Unvote
##Vote rayn
Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it

No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused.

I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread.


In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game.
And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable.
It seems convoluted because it is.

i am not sure if i should play mafia.
I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire.


Why did you expect me to call you mafia for what I did?

because you always do?


You're saying when I'm town I apply reasons I am typically town for to call others mafia?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 22:45 GMT
#286
On April 30 2020 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:38 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:
I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town.

Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened.

Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well.

And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that.

Summing it up:
It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games.

So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it
And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to.

##Unvote
##Vote rayn
Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it

No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused.

I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread.


In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game.
And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable.
It seems convoluted because it is.

i am not sure if i should play mafia.
I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire.


Why did you expect me to call you mafia for what I did?

because you always do?


You're saying when I'm town I apply reasons I am typically town for to call others mafia?

i have no idea what youre trying to ask me here.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 22:52 GMT
#287
I am simply just saying you are paranoid in almost every game. That will make you play bad, like me thinking too scummy to be scum is not scum (as i usually do).
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 29 2020 22:53 GMT
#288
#vote Jockmcplop
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 29 2020 23:02 GMT
#289
I thought you had a particular reason to expect me to call you mafia for there, but apparently you're saying you were expecting it because I always do, though I'd argue I tend to call everyone mafia at some point but drop it when I see a good reason to.

Fine. Back to other matters. I'm going to assume for a moment Trfel isn't mafia and look at Kurumi. I see he was kind of eager to jump into my arms, which bothers me a little. It also seems like rayn triggered him a bit, which I don't read too much into. Before I fast forward to his post though I need to know something.

Rayn, do you still think Kurumi is mafia?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 29 2020 23:22 GMT
#290
On April 30 2020 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything?
I don't agree with it, no. But I think I understand it. Even if I think it's really silly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 29 2020 23:46 GMT
#291
Without me believing that I was the reason he posted this, this post is actually pretty good.

On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


I'll skip the part where I know if rayn is scumreading him and just add Kurumi to the scummy pile. Also because of something in his biggish post I want to point out:

Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars.


This is a stretch.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 30 2020 00:07 GMT
#292
On April 30 2020 08:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything?
I don't agree with it, no. But I think I understand it. Even if I think it's really silly.

explain please then.
table for two on a tv tray
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 30 2020 00:21 GMT
#293
On April 30 2020 08:46 Vivax wrote:
Without me believing that I was the reason he posted this, this post is actually pretty good.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


I'll skip the part where I know if rayn is scumreading him and just add Kurumi to the scummy pile. Also because of something in his biggish post I want to point out:

Show nested quote +
Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars.


This is a stretch.
I didn't post that because of anything related to you, I posted it because I wanted to post it.
On April 30 2020 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 08:22 Trfel wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything?
I don't agree with it, no. But I think I understand it. Even if I think it's really silly.

explain please then.
Apparently, last game, I was an easy lynch target at the start of the game (fair enough I suppose, I tend to be). Jockmcplop (mafia) went after me, and the way he did so had some flaws so Vivax (town) was able to push him and lynch him.

In this game, I made an excuse so that's easy for mafia to jump on. Kurumi went after it, and Vivax sees you jumping on him as the same thing.

It kinda makes sense? Except that it's not scummy for you to push something at the start of the game, especially when the reason for suspecting it is successful meta. And it's not true that "meta" makes it unable to pressure you for the push.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 30 2020 00:30 GMT
#294
On April 30 2020 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are you voting for Shockeyy Slam?

He seems to be coasting on an easy LHF. I don’t believe the reasons he has raised for scumreading me, and he is one of very few who goes that far (not that I have shined a holy light of townieness, in other words).

In that context it just looks scummy to me.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 30 2020 00:41 GMT
#295
On April 30 2020 09:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 08:46 Vivax wrote:
Without me believing that I was the reason he posted this, this post is actually pretty good.

On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


I'll skip the part where I know if rayn is scumreading him and just add Kurumi to the scummy pile. Also because of something in his biggish post I want to point out:

Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars.


This is a stretch.
I didn't post that because of anything related to you, I posted it because I wanted to post it.
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2020 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 08:22 Trfel wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything?
I don't agree with it, no. But I think I understand it. Even if I think it's really silly.

explain please then.
Apparently, last game, I was an easy lynch target at the start of the game (fair enough I suppose, I tend to be). Jockmcplop (mafia) went after me, and the way he did so had some flaws so Vivax (town) was able to push him and lynch him.

In this game, I made an excuse so that's easy for mafia to jump on. Kurumi went after it, and Vivax sees you jumping on him as the same thing.

It kinda makes sense? Except that it's not scummy for you to push something at the start of the game, especially when the reason for suspecting it is successful meta. And it's not true that "meta" makes it unable to pressure you for the push.


Well, you forgot the 'he's going to call me mafia for this' part.
Which now I think he claims is something he said because I do it every game, not because of something he posted. Though I'd like confirmation on this because rayn didn't really confirm if that's how it went.

Dunno, maybe I actually had a stroke of genius when making that post, but looking back at it, I worded it badly.

I did expect rayn to be trying to do some kind of reverse mind trick when saying I was going to call him mafia. Similar to his 'scumslip' in holy guardians where afterwards he acted like he did it on purpose.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
April 30 2020 00:44 GMT
#296
Yeah could do with a Shockeyy vote if he doesn't deliver more.
Maybe I'm looking at active people too much? As mafia I'd probably play like Shockeyy, without pressure. And his reason for voting Koshi is meh.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 30 2020 01:00 GMT
#297
On April 30 2020 09:41 Vivax wrote:
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On April 30 2020 09:21 Trfel wrote:
On April 30 2020 08:46 Vivax wrote:
Without me believing that I was the reason he posted this, this post is actually pretty good.

On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
@Alakaslam and GlowingBear, thanks for answering my questions.
Anyway, I find Kurumi to be the most interesting person in the thread at the moment.
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?

Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days?


Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today

I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out.

So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about?


Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post.
Maybe a bit of stimulation will help.

##Vote: FF


I see. Thanks. That's not a bad lead.
Super non-committal, zero followup. Saying it's "not bad" means he thinks there is something to it, but he didn't say another word on the subject in any of his posts. Yes, I know, Fecalfeast didn't post in that time so there was nothing new to discuss, but I still think that if Kurumi actually found Fecalfeast suspicious/interesting he would have mentioned it to others. Like later that same post:
On April 29 2020 05:48 Kurumi wrote:
On April 29 2020 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.

shit i think we should kill him then


You want to butt heads, eh? What do you make out of Trfel declaring to be lazy at the start of the game?
Why is he more interested in me making an excuse than the scumread he just said was decent? But that's what he chose to ask raynpelikoneet about.

And he never seemed to stop and question raynpelikoneet's alignment, or even find raynpelikoneet's response interesting. This I really don't get. Raynpelikoneet's play of hard defending someone early in the game for weak reasons (especially in Kurumi's view, for the exact same reason he is suspicious) should be seen as a terrible play. I'd think that would be at least worth mentioning. But all Kurumi cares about is a player who made an excuse, not the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Doesn't feel right to me. Thoughts?


I'll skip the part where I know if rayn is scumreading him and just add Kurumi to the scummy pile. Also because of something in his biggish post I want to point out:

Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars.


This is a stretch.
I didn't post that because of anything related to you, I posted it because I wanted to post it.
On April 30 2020 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 30 2020 08:22 Trfel wrote:
On April 30 2020 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything?
I don't agree with it, no. But I think I understand it. Even if I think it's really silly.

explain please then.
Apparently, last game, I was an easy lynch target at the start of the game (fair enough I suppose, I tend to be). Jockmcplop (mafia) went after me, and the way he did so had some flaws so Vivax (town) was able to push him and lynch him.

In this game, I made an excuse so that's easy for mafia to jump on. Kurumi went after it, and Vivax sees you jumping on him as the same thing.

It kinda makes sense? Except that it's not scummy for you to push something at the start of the game, especially when the reason for suspecting it is successful meta. And it's not true that "meta" makes it unable to pressure you for the push.


Well, you forgot the 'he's going to call me mafia for this' part.
Which now I think he claims is something he said because I do it every game, not because of something he posted. Though I'd like confirmation on this because rayn didn't really confirm if that's how it went.

Dunno, maybe I actually had a stroke of genius when making that post, but looking back at it, I worded it badly.

I did expect rayn to be trying to do some kind of reverse mind trick when saying I was going to call him mafia. Similar to his 'scumslip' in holy guardians where afterwards he acted like he did it on purpose.
Did you expect that from raynpelikoneet regardless of alignment? Or what makes this alignment indicative, especially given that he was town that game with the "scumslip," no?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 30 2020 01:10 GMT
#298
ALRIGHT I'm here. I'll make a catchup post.
I'm adorable.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 30 2020 01:21 GMT
#299
On April 30 2020 10:10 GlowingBear wrote:
ALRIGHT I'm here. I'll make a catchup post.

Homboii
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 30 2020 01:24 GMT
#300
Alakaslam, can you explain why you are suspicious of me?
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