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##Vote: Jockmcplop
Then we slam Koshi!
If we lose, we blame rayn
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On May 06 2020 13:58 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote: Jockmcplop
Then we slam Koshi!
If we lose, we blame rayn
Always a solid plan. 
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##unVote
##Vote: Jockmcplop
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On May 06 2020 13:59 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 13:58 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote: Jockmcplop
Then we slam Koshi!
If we lose, we blame rayn Always a solid plan.
If you are mafia, you are MVP for not killing me nor rayn after acknowledging us as blue in thread.
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Thanks guys, you're the best <3
I'll be around in the morning in case you decide to switch votes 
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On May 06 2020 13:39 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 13:21 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:17 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:15 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:08 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:01 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 11:20 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 11:13 Trfel wrote:
[quote]Is there any way I can convince you to switch back to Jockmcplop? I'll be here on and off for the next few hours, I'll be taking a sauna with my dad (shout-out to raynpelikoneet!). Look at the associations between the GlowingBear, Jockmcplop, and Alakaslam team. Notice how Alakaslam is trying to vote anyone other than Jockmcplop, despite having Jockmcplop in his POE list. See how GlowingBear townread Jockmcplop Day 2 despite having no reason to do so (I think a page or two ago I showed why his reasons are invalid). Note Jockmcplop's lack of involvement and desire to play this game. He's a very strong town player, and I know he'd have more pushback against his lynch and throughout the game than this. As it is now, the lynch comes down to a race. Grackaroni said he won't ever lynch Vivax, Jockmcplop will definitely vote to save himself. I'd rather seal the lynch of Jockmcplop and worry about the rest later.In the end it's your decision, but if you've made up your mind I'd appreciate it if you let me know is all. Otherwise I'm highly confident that Jockmcplop is mafia and I believe he should be the lynch today. This proves all your reads are basically associative. They're not, but I'm not sure (1) why it matters and (2) what makes you say that? Your reads resides in jock being mafia, then I'm mafia for that, then whoever I read as scum is town. I strongly believe that Jockmcplop is mafia. If you re-evaluate Jockmcplop, I will re-evaluate you. Deal? Alright. I believe Jock could be mafia but I don't want to vote him today. Your turn. Can I ask why? Because although I think my point about him townreading me instead on jumping right away to kill me isn't valid anymore, I still believe his posts sounds townish enough so I wouldn't risk killing him today. Well, I reread your filter. Admittedly fairly quickly, but I did. I'm sorry, it's hard to ignore associations. I couldn't help but notice how the reason for your townread on Jockmcplop changed so much. First you said it's because he was making good posts, then you said it was because of how he townread you, then you called him top town and disagreed with my case on him, then you said it was just because of how he townread you. And a few times you said he was town because mafia wouldn't afk and not vote, which is just false when it comes to medical emergencies. It doesn't feel like you have multiple reasons to townread Jockmcplop, it sounds like you are forcing a townread and are choosing an arbitrary reason each time. Outside of that, I don't notice a ton wrong in your filter except how you were wrong on Day 2 with the ShoCkeyy push. You were all excited to lynch raynpelikoneet but then you hard pushed ShoCkeyy most of the day which resulted in his lynch. I wish I had more reasons to call you mafia, so I could convince others  It just reads to me like you're mafia. I guess it's just a gut read. Maybe I shouldn't use gut reads in a 77-page game in MYLO with plenty of information but as logical as I am, feelings dominate my decisions.
I even forgot that AFK thing lol. I find hard to believe mafia would risk getting modkilled by not dropping a vote. But you've got a point.
You realize that some of the things you're saying are the same thing, but just worded differently, right? I've said I like how his perspective regarding the game is genuine.
And why pushing Shockey instead of rayn is bad? He posted a bad WIFOM post that even him didn't believe in.
The only reason you have to call me mafia with jock is associative.
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On May 06 2020 14:00 Trfel wrote:Thanks guys, you're the best <3 I'll be around in the morning in case you decide to switch votes
So what is it like to be in the mafia qt with Vivax and Koshi?
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On May 06 2020 13:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I think GB comes off as quite townie for day 3. I like that he's keeping things interesting and I don't think his reasoning for calling out Vivax is bad. It kind of feels like mafia are just waiting out the final day.
If we aren't voting Jock I'd vote Koshi over Vivax though. Slam also claimed cop at the end of day 1 when he had 2 votes and was being hard pushed by Rayn the night before Rayn died.
This would be my new list atm.
Trfel
GB
Vivax
Chezinu?
Jock
Slam
Koshi
Wait Chezinu isn't confirmed town to you?
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On May 06 2020 13:58 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote: Jockmcplop
Then we slam Koshi!
If we lose, we blame rayn
Why are you voting him, Chez?
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The fact that jock wasn't modkill and was only received a warning, is a mafia tell. I know hosts try not to be bias, but they typically always modkill townies and warn mafia.
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On May 06 2020 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 13:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I think GB comes off as quite townie for day 3. I like that he's keeping things interesting and I don't think his reasoning for calling out Vivax is bad. It kind of feels like mafia are just waiting out the final day.
If we aren't voting Jock I'd vote Koshi over Vivax though. Slam also claimed cop at the end of day 1 when he had 2 votes and was being hard pushed by Rayn the night before Rayn died.
This would be my new list atm.
Trfel
GB
Vivax
Chezinu?
Jock
Slam
Koshi
Wait Chezinu isn't confirmed town to you?
YOU CAN'T CONFIRM THE CHEZ!!!
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On May 06 2020 14:09 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I think GB comes off as quite townie for day 3. I like that he's keeping things interesting and I don't think his reasoning for calling out Vivax is bad. It kind of feels like mafia are just waiting out the final day.
If we aren't voting Jock I'd vote Koshi over Vivax though. Slam also claimed cop at the end of day 1 when he had 2 votes and was being hard pushed by Rayn the night before Rayn died.
This would be my new list atm.
Trfel
GB
Vivax
Chezinu?
Jock
Slam
Koshi
Wait Chezinu isn't confirmed town to you? YOU CAN'T CONFIRM THE CHEZ!!!
Except when he says he is town when he is up for lynch. Then you listen to him.
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GB Slam would not kill me bc they <3 me. If they could, they would let me join their mafia team.
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On May 06 2020 14:06 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 14:00 Trfel wrote:Thanks guys, you're the best <3 I'll be around in the morning in case you decide to switch votes So what is it like to be in the mafia qt with Vivax and Koshi? Pretty hype, they're a lot of fun!
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On May 06 2020 14:10 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 14:06 Chezinu wrote:On May 06 2020 14:00 Trfel wrote:Thanks guys, you're the best <3 I'll be around in the morning in case you decide to switch votes So what is it like to be in the mafia qt with Vivax and Koshi? Pretty hype, they're a lot of fun!
I can't believe you were able to be on a team with two really great mafia players that have a knack for controlling the lynches. I'm not sure if I could stop yall even if I knew you all were mafia...
I guess I would have to spam the thread.
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On May 06 2020 14:06 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 13:39 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:21 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:17 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:15 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:08 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:01 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 11:20 Trfel wrote:
[quote]I'll be here on and off for the next few hours, I'll be taking a sauna with my dad (shout-out to raynpelikoneet!).
Look at the associations between the GlowingBear, Jockmcplop, and Alakaslam team. Notice how Alakaslam is trying to vote anyone other than Jockmcplop, despite having Jockmcplop in his POE list. See how GlowingBear townread Jockmcplop Day 2 despite having no reason to do so (I think a page or two ago I showed why his reasons are invalid). Note Jockmcplop's lack of involvement and desire to play this game. He's a very strong town player, and I know he'd have more pushback against his lynch and throughout the game than this.
As it is now, the lynch comes down to a race. Grackaroni said he won't ever lynch Vivax, Jockmcplop will definitely vote to save himself. I'd rather seal the lynch of Jockmcplop and worry about the rest later.
In the end it's your decision, but if you've made up your mind I'd appreciate it if you let me know is all. Otherwise I'm highly confident that Jockmcplop is mafia and I believe he should be the lynch today. This proves all your reads are basically associative. They're not, but I'm not sure (1) why it matters and (2) what makes you say that? Your reads resides in jock being mafia, then I'm mafia for that, then whoever I read as scum is town. I strongly believe that Jockmcplop is mafia. If you re-evaluate Jockmcplop, I will re-evaluate you. Deal? Alright. I believe Jock could be mafia but I don't want to vote him today. Your turn. Can I ask why? Because although I think my point about him townreading me instead on jumping right away to kill me isn't valid anymore, I still believe his posts sounds townish enough so I wouldn't risk killing him today. Well, I reread your filter. Admittedly fairly quickly, but I did. I'm sorry, it's hard to ignore associations. I couldn't help but notice how the reason for your townread on Jockmcplop changed so much. First you said it's because he was making good posts, then you said it was because of how he townread you, then you called him top town and disagreed with my case on him, then you said it was just because of how he townread you. And a few times you said he was town because mafia wouldn't afk and not vote, which is just false when it comes to medical emergencies. It doesn't feel like you have multiple reasons to townread Jockmcplop, it sounds like you are forcing a townread and are choosing an arbitrary reason each time. Outside of that, I don't notice a ton wrong in your filter except how you were wrong on Day 2 with the ShoCkeyy push. You were all excited to lynch raynpelikoneet but then you hard pushed ShoCkeyy most of the day which resulted in his lynch. I wish I had more reasons to call you mafia, so I could convince others It just reads to me like you're mafia. I guess it's just a gut read. Maybe I shouldn't use gut reads in a 77-page game in MYLO with plenty of information but as logical as I am, feelings dominate my decisions. I even forgot that AFK thing lol. I find hard to believe mafia would risk getting modkilled by not dropping a vote. But you've got a point. You realize that some of the things you're saying are the same thing, but just worded differently, right? I've said I like how his perspective regarding the game is genuine. And why pushing Shockey instead of rayn is bad? He posted a bad WIFOM post that even him didn't believe in. The only reason you have to call me mafia with jock is associative. Like I said, my reasons aren't great. It's a gut read, based on the feels.
Felt like you pushed ShoCkeyy to secure an easy mislynch instead of raynpelikoneet, who wasn't likely to be lynched. Leaving your mafia buddies in greater risk.
And we can see what happens after Jockmcplop flips.
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On May 06 2020 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 13:53 Grackaroni wrote:
I think GB comes off as quite townie for day 3. I like that he's keeping things interesting and I don't think his reasoning for calling out Vivax is bad. It kind of feels like mafia are just waiting out the final day.
If we aren't voting Jock I'd vote Koshi over Vivax though. Slam also claimed cop at the end of day 1 when he had 2 votes and was being hard pushed by Rayn the night before Rayn died.
This would be my new list atm.
Trfel
GB
Vivax
Chezinu?
Jock
Slam
Koshi
Wait Chezinu isn't confirmed town to you?
I probably should bank on 2 blues for a setup that's short one townie and move up Chez.
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On May 06 2020 14:12 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 14:10 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 14:06 Chezinu wrote:On May 06 2020 14:00 Trfel wrote:Thanks guys, you're the best <3 I'll be around in the morning in case you decide to switch votes So what is it like to be in the mafia qt with Vivax and Koshi? Pretty hype, they're a lot of fun! I can't believe you were able to be on a team with two really great mafia players that have a knack for controlling the lynches. I'm not sure if I could stop yall even if I knew you all were mafia... I guess I would have to spam the thread. Yeah, honestly I'm typically quite poor as mafia. I had one good game many years ago and people have been scared of me ever since... but it was quite the one hit wonder. Koshi has an insane ability to carry as mafia when he wants to, though. And I'm sure Vivax could do quite well. But I'd feel so guilty... I much prefer (attempting) to win a victory with town.
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On May 06 2020 14:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 14:06 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:39 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:21 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:17 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:17 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:15 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 13:08 GlowingBear wrote:On May 06 2020 13:01 Trfel wrote:On May 06 2020 12:58 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]
This proves all your reads are basically associative. They're not, but I'm not sure (1) why it matters and (2) what makes you say that? Your reads resides in jock being mafia, then I'm mafia for that, then whoever I read as scum is town. I strongly believe that Jockmcplop is mafia. If you re-evaluate Jockmcplop, I will re-evaluate you. Deal? Alright. I believe Jock could be mafia but I don't want to vote him today. Your turn. Can I ask why? Because although I think my point about him townreading me instead on jumping right away to kill me isn't valid anymore, I still believe his posts sounds townish enough so I wouldn't risk killing him today. Well, I reread your filter. Admittedly fairly quickly, but I did. I'm sorry, it's hard to ignore associations. I couldn't help but notice how the reason for your townread on Jockmcplop changed so much. First you said it's because he was making good posts, then you said it was because of how he townread you, then you called him top town and disagreed with my case on him, then you said it was just because of how he townread you. And a few times you said he was town because mafia wouldn't afk and not vote, which is just false when it comes to medical emergencies. It doesn't feel like you have multiple reasons to townread Jockmcplop, it sounds like you are forcing a townread and are choosing an arbitrary reason each time. Outside of that, I don't notice a ton wrong in your filter except how you were wrong on Day 2 with the ShoCkeyy push. You were all excited to lynch raynpelikoneet but then you hard pushed ShoCkeyy most of the day which resulted in his lynch. I wish I had more reasons to call you mafia, so I could convince others It just reads to me like you're mafia. I guess it's just a gut read. Maybe I shouldn't use gut reads in a 77-page game in MYLO with plenty of information but as logical as I am, feelings dominate my decisions. I even forgot that AFK thing lol. I find hard to believe mafia would risk getting modkilled by not dropping a vote. But you've got a point. You realize that some of the things you're saying are the same thing, but just worded differently, right? I've said I like how his perspective regarding the game is genuine. And why pushing Shockey instead of rayn is bad? He posted a bad WIFOM post that even him didn't believe in. The only reason you have to call me mafia with jock is associative. Like I said, my reasons aren't great. It's a gut read, based on the feels. Felt like you pushed ShoCkeyy to secure an easy mislynch instead of raynpelikoneet, who wasn't likely to be lynched. Leaving your mafia buddies in greater risk. And we can see what happens after Jockmcplop flips.
Okay, it seems there's nothing I can do to convince you I'm town.
After jock flips the game ends, that's what happens.
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