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On May 06 2020 01:32 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, you wouldn't happen to be a mason, would you?
If I was mason with ShoCkeyy I wouldnt have hard suspected him early.
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On May 06 2020 02:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 01:32 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, you wouldn't happen to be a mason, would you? If I was mason with ShoCkeyy I wouldnt have hard suspected him early.
Why?
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On May 06 2020 02:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 02:01 Alakaslam wrote:On May 06 2020 01:32 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, you wouldn't happen to be a mason, would you? If I was mason with ShoCkeyy I wouldnt have hard suspected him early. Why?
Because we would be masons? Like what are you all
Here is what I have for all of you scumming me, and voting Jock:
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On May 06 2020 02:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 02:13 Koshi wrote:On May 06 2020 02:01 Alakaslam wrote:On May 06 2020 01:32 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, you wouldn't happen to be a mason, would you? If I was mason with ShoCkeyy I wouldnt have hard suspected him early. Why? Because we would be masons? Like what are you all Here is what I have for all of you scumming me, and voting Jock:
I realized midway through this why you are asking, Koshi.
I am daytrader.
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People really exploded with my obvious nighttime fakeclaim of cop. Now they want me to be mason. Can we really not fit a tongue in any of our cheeks, or am I just a chipmunk?
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Hell they want me to be scum mason.
Look, mafia is not about creating scapegoats. It’s about finding actual mafia.
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Like if I feel like you have decided I am mafia and are trying to convince me you are right, then from now on? Sorry if I just ignore you. I’m being intentionally rude but it isnt personal.
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Day 3 - BRRRR.MONEY COUNT
Votes:
Jockmcplop: (4) Trfel, Chezinu, Koshi, Vivax
Trfel: (1) Alakaslam
Chezinu: (1) Jockmcplop
Koshi: (0)
Alakaslam: (0)
Vivax: (0)
GlowingBear: (0)
Grackaroni: (0)
Not Voting: (2) Grakaroni, GlowingBear
Jockmcplop is set to be lynched with 4 votes.
until End of Day
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I’m still unwholesome. But i can see the jock tinfoil.
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Eh well I am now gonna just stick to my own guns. More reason people will scum read me but at this point there is literally nothing I can do about that.
##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel
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Sorry if you feel offended Alakaslam, I was just wondering because I thought it made sense to me. ShoCkeyy didn't know who his mason partner was, he said the other mason was trolling, I figured after Chezinu you would be the best guess.
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I do troll but not against my own wincon. At least I try to avoid that.
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On May 05 2020 15:35 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2020 15:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:53 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:47 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:42 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:41 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:36 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:27 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:23 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:20 GlowingBear wrote:[quote] I've dealt with depression too. If it's not clinical (definitely go see a psychiatrist), then a therapist and physical exercise will help you deal with it. Still today I fight it a bit. Once I feel depression coming, I accept it and work with it. The black dog stuff is a nice way to portrait depression. Yes, I came back because of the virus. I thought "okay, maybe a good time to play mafia". My style changed because I became way less emotional and paranoid. So, that's good  Unfortunately mine is clinical, I've been in therapy and psychiatry for years and even a hospital stay from it  What do you mean by the black dog stuff? I only came back because of the virus too, honestly I've been enjoying it though. Fun game, fun people Even once this ends, consider coming back every once in a while! It'd be too bad if you stopped permanently. Though I guess everyone does eventually... Haha, sounds good ^^ But paranoia is so much fun! I didn't had time because I started working with theater too. And when you're in rehearsals, it's impossible to play mafia. But anyway, let's see what happens after this coronavirus stuff. Maybe I keep playing. Thanks for that good to know I'm welcome. Know that this is reciprocal. If I may, what kind of involvement with theater? And thanks, I really do appreciate it The more I think about it, the more your team does make sense. In some ways it makes more sense than my team. For example, I think it's weird putting you and Jockmcplop as mafia together, given how you went after Jockmcplop's joke vote so solidly and for so long. And I don't have many good reasons for Alakaslam to be mafia besides POE But for some reason it still feels like it has to be right. I do almost everything in theater, I've been an actor, playwright, producer, you name it. But mainly, stage director. It's a second career as I don't earn almost anything with it rofl. The only reason I have to believe slam COULD be mafia is his wishy washiness, his lack of involvement in decisive moments. He being upset with shockey being lynch felt way too forced, he didn't seem to carry that much about what was happening during the day. But that's all. You know, those are good reasons. Better than mine. Fair enough. Also, impressive! That's super cool I suck at acting though  Haha, I bet I'd be worse ^^ And I'm sorry, I read through Jockmcplop's filter, I don't really see what you are saying. You said, day 2 he townread you when he could have scumread you? But I don't understand why that makes him town? First, he wasn't up for lynch. I don't believe he was strongly pushed that day, though I guess I could double check this. Given that ShoCkeyy was town, there was never much risk of mafia getting lynched. And second, I was the only person who tried to push you Day 2, I wouldn't call that a viable wagon at all. If it wasn't for Shockey being lynched, jock would be, no? That's how I remember it. Now, if this is the case, consider these assumptions: mafia!jock is getting some votes on him. mafia!jock sees that town!Trfel posted a case on town!GB. Why would mafia!jock defend town!GB when himself is piling votes? It doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective. Also, even if mafia!jock takes the path of defending me to get towncred, why didn't any other mafia agree with your case to throw suspicions on me? My answer is that every name up for the lynch was fine for mafia. Which implies jock is town. Is it fair to assume that Day 2 only really started Sunday evening PDT (when raynpelikoneet returned, Vivax voted off of raynpelikoneet, people started coming back to the thread, it was more than just me and Vivax playing the game, etc.)? Before then I'd say it's too hard to say who was going to be lynched. However, Jockmcplop defended GlowingBear before then, making this a lot harder... Here is where Jockmcplop first says he still townreads GlowingBear on Day 2. And here is the votecount at the time: Show nested quote +On May 02 2020 23:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Day 2 - BRRRR.MONEY COUNT
Votes: ShoCkeyy: (1) Koshi GlowingBear: (1) Trfel raynpelikoneet: (0) AlakaslamTrfel: (0) AlakaslamNot Voting:Chezinu, ShoCkeyy, Grackaroni, Vivax, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, raynpelikoneet, GlowingBear ShoCkeyy is set to be lynched with 1 vote. until End of Day Again, not helpful. Vivax was townreading GlowingBear at this time though, for not voting to save himself at the end of Day 1. Koshi also called GlowingBear town well before this. I'm not sure what raynpelikoneet thought. ConclusionTwo thread leaders (Koshi and Vivax) townread GlowingBear well before Jockmcplop confirmed his townread on GlowingBear. Therefore I don't believe that GlowingBear's reason to townread Jockmcplop is valid (even if GlowingBear is town). GlowingBear, thoughts?
That's not the impression I had. Are you sure this was the current votes in thread and no vote was cast on him?
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On May 05 2020 15:42 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2020 15:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
At the moment
town:
Jock
Grack
GB
null:
slam
Mafia
chez
koshi
vivax/trfel
I'm starting to think slam is town. He's still null rather than a townread, but his tone today isn't one that I can see in his mafia meta and i've looked at all of his mafia games in the archive. He's annoyed and sounds defeated, which i didn't see at all in his meta. He's also been quick to take things personally the whole game and I don't see that much in his mafia meta either.
Can I ask why everyone is quick to TR chez? I know he has claimed again but he has claimed like three or four times different roles this game. Why do you believe him unconditionally now with no evidence when you didn't believe him before. It looks more like PR hunting to me.
In all honesty? I see no reason to lynch Chezinu now. I think there's a pretty good chance he's a role, he may not be, but there is no counterclaim. There are almost certainly two town power roles in the game, I haven't seen a game with only one (of 12-13 player size) well, ever. If Chezinu is mafia, his play is bound to be found out as soon as someone else claims, so it's not a good play to make. This means that Chezinu is very likely a town power role, and very likely town. The clincher is that it's not town's problem, it's mafia's problem. Town can wait until there is one mafia left to worry about Chezinu, if it comes down to it. Since he's likely a role, mafia can't wait. They have to figure out how to deal with him sooner. So it's best to keep him alive I know, not the answer you wanted to hear, but it's the best I can do.
I don't think that's the case, Trfel. Chez didn't participate in the game as much as he did in his last town games. Also, one can simply be trying to gauge if there are roles by posting fake softs to see how people react. He posted a ton of possible softs to think of claiming today. And it was after the flipped town rayn said he is the doctor. But in which grounds?
Because, see, if he is mafia and is trying to guarantee himself out of the lynch and conduct a mislynch, he wins. It's a safe play.
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On May 05 2020 16:45 Koshi wrote:
##Vote Jock
What changed your mind?
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On May 05 2020 16:33 Koshi wrote:
I do believe there is a framer or gf in the game so grack is not yet in the clear. But that is lylo bullshit.
Other than that. GB was uber scummy D1 but super townie d2.
There is no way Tfrel is mafia. Vivax cant really see it.
I think Jock is town but I also thought Shockey was mafia.
I forgot the third name rayn said. Maybe I should vote that guy but I will just follow town consensus today.
So you're voting jock becauase you're following "town consensus" today?
ROFL okay
##vote:Koshi
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On May 06 2020 04:40 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2020 15:35 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 15:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:53 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:47 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:42 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:41 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:36 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:27 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:23 Trfel wrote:[quote]Unfortunately mine is clinical, I've been in therapy and psychiatry for years and even a hospital stay from it What do you mean by the black dog stuff? I only came back because of the virus too, honestly I've been enjoying it though. Fun game, fun people Even once this ends, consider coming back every once in a while! It'd be too bad if you stopped permanently. Though I guess everyone does eventually... Haha, sounds good ^^ But paranoia is so much fun! I didn't had time because I started working with theater too. And when you're in rehearsals, it's impossible to play mafia. But anyway, let's see what happens after this coronavirus stuff. Maybe I keep playing. Thanks for that good to know I'm welcome. Know that this is reciprocal. If I may, what kind of involvement with theater? And thanks, I really do appreciate it The more I think about it, the more your team does make sense. In some ways it makes more sense than my team. For example, I think it's weird putting you and Jockmcplop as mafia together, given how you went after Jockmcplop's joke vote so solidly and for so long. And I don't have many good reasons for Alakaslam to be mafia besides POE But for some reason it still feels like it has to be right. I do almost everything in theater, I've been an actor, playwright, producer, you name it. But mainly, stage director. It's a second career as I don't earn almost anything with it rofl. The only reason I have to believe slam COULD be mafia is his wishy washiness, his lack of involvement in decisive moments. He being upset with shockey being lynch felt way too forced, he didn't seem to carry that much about what was happening during the day. But that's all. You know, those are good reasons. Better than mine. Fair enough. Also, impressive! That's super cool I suck at acting though Haha, I bet I'd be worse ^^ And I'm sorry, I read through Jockmcplop's filter, I don't really see what you are saying. You said, day 2 he townread you when he could have scumread you? But I don't understand why that makes him town? First, he wasn't up for lynch. I don't believe he was strongly pushed that day, though I guess I could double check this. Given that ShoCkeyy was town, there was never much risk of mafia getting lynched. And second, I was the only person who tried to push you Day 2, I wouldn't call that a viable wagon at all. If it wasn't for Shockey being lynched, jock would be, no? That's how I remember it. Now, if this is the case, consider these assumptions: mafia!jock is getting some votes on him. mafia!jock sees that town!Trfel posted a case on town!GB. Why would mafia!jock defend town!GB when himself is piling votes? It doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective. Also, even if mafia!jock takes the path of defending me to get towncred, why didn't any other mafia agree with your case to throw suspicions on me? My answer is that every name up for the lynch was fine for mafia. Which implies jock is town. Is it fair to assume that Day 2 only really started Sunday evening PDT (when raynpelikoneet returned, Vivax voted off of raynpelikoneet, people started coming back to the thread, it was more than just me and Vivax playing the game, etc.)? Before then I'd say it's too hard to say who was going to be lynched. However, Jockmcplop defended GlowingBear before then, making this a lot harder... Here is where Jockmcplop first says he still townreads GlowingBear on Day 2. And here is the votecount at the time: On May 02 2020 23:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Day 2 - BRRRR.MONEY COUNT
Votes: ShoCkeyy: (1) Koshi GlowingBear: (1) Trfel raynpelikoneet: (0) AlakaslamTrfel: (0) AlakaslamNot Voting:Chezinu, ShoCkeyy, Grackaroni, Vivax, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, raynpelikoneet, GlowingBear ShoCkeyy is set to be lynched with 1 vote. until End of Day Again, not helpful. Vivax was townreading GlowingBear at this time though, for not voting to save himself at the end of Day 1. Koshi also called GlowingBear town well before this. I'm not sure what raynpelikoneet thought. ConclusionTwo thread leaders (Koshi and Vivax) townread GlowingBear well before Jockmcplop confirmed his townread on GlowingBear. Therefore I don't believe that GlowingBear's reason to townread Jockmcplop is valid (even if GlowingBear is town). GlowingBear, thoughts? That's not the impression I had. Are you sure this was the current votes in thread and no vote was cast on him? There were no votes in between the vote count and the post I linked. We are talking about Day 2, right?
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I gotta keep working but I almost every probable scum team I think of, Koshi is in it. Especially after he is okay with voting for someone he thinks is "town" during MYLO.
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On May 06 2020 04:52 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2020 04:40 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 15:35 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 15:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:53 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:47 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:42 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:41 GlowingBear wrote:On May 05 2020 14:36 Trfel wrote:On May 05 2020 14:27 GlowingBear wrote:[quote] I didn't had time because I started working with theater too. And when you're in rehearsals, it's impossible to play mafia. But anyway, let's see what happens after this coronavirus stuff. Maybe I keep playing. Thanks for that good to know I'm welcome. Know that this is reciprocal. If I may, what kind of involvement with theater? And thanks, I really do appreciate it The more I think about it, the more your team does make sense. In some ways it makes more sense than my team. For example, I think it's weird putting you and Jockmcplop as mafia together, given how you went after Jockmcplop's joke vote so solidly and for so long. And I don't have many good reasons for Alakaslam to be mafia besides POE But for some reason it still feels like it has to be right. I do almost everything in theater, I've been an actor, playwright, producer, you name it. But mainly, stage director. It's a second career as I don't earn almost anything with it rofl. The only reason I have to believe slam COULD be mafia is his wishy washiness, his lack of involvement in decisive moments. He being upset with shockey being lynch felt way too forced, he didn't seem to carry that much about what was happening during the day. But that's all. You know, those are good reasons. Better than mine. Fair enough. Also, impressive! That's super cool I suck at acting though Haha, I bet I'd be worse ^^ And I'm sorry, I read through Jockmcplop's filter, I don't really see what you are saying. You said, day 2 he townread you when he could have scumread you? But I don't understand why that makes him town? First, he wasn't up for lynch. I don't believe he was strongly pushed that day, though I guess I could double check this. Given that ShoCkeyy was town, there was never much risk of mafia getting lynched. And second, I was the only person who tried to push you Day 2, I wouldn't call that a viable wagon at all. If it wasn't for Shockey being lynched, jock would be, no? That's how I remember it. Now, if this is the case, consider these assumptions: mafia!jock is getting some votes on him. mafia!jock sees that town!Trfel posted a case on town!GB. Why would mafia!jock defend town!GB when himself is piling votes? It doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective. Also, even if mafia!jock takes the path of defending me to get towncred, why didn't any other mafia agree with your case to throw suspicions on me? My answer is that every name up for the lynch was fine for mafia. Which implies jock is town. Is it fair to assume that Day 2 only really started Sunday evening PDT (when raynpelikoneet returned, Vivax voted off of raynpelikoneet, people started coming back to the thread, it was more than just me and Vivax playing the game, etc.)? Before then I'd say it's too hard to say who was going to be lynched. However, Jockmcplop defended GlowingBear before then, making this a lot harder... Here is where Jockmcplop first says he still townreads GlowingBear on Day 2. And here is the votecount at the time: On May 02 2020 23:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Day 2 - BRRRR.MONEY COUNT
Votes: ShoCkeyy: (1) Koshi GlowingBear: (1) Trfel raynpelikoneet: (0) AlakaslamTrfel: (0) AlakaslamNot Voting:Chezinu, ShoCkeyy, Grackaroni, Vivax, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, raynpelikoneet, GlowingBear ShoCkeyy is set to be lynched with 1 vote. until End of Day Again, not helpful. Vivax was townreading GlowingBear at this time though, for not voting to save himself at the end of Day 1. Koshi also called GlowingBear town well before this. I'm not sure what raynpelikoneet thought. ConclusionTwo thread leaders (Koshi and Vivax) townread GlowingBear well before Jockmcplop confirmed his townread on GlowingBear. Therefore I don't believe that GlowingBear's reason to townread Jockmcplop is valid (even if GlowingBear is town). GlowingBear, thoughts? That's not the impression I had. Are you sure this was the current votes in thread and no vote was cast on him? There were no votes in between the vote count and the post I linked. We are talking about Day 2, right?
Yes.
If so, I'll have to think again, because this weakens my town read on jock a lot.
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