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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 14:23 GMT
#1441
Btw. Chez should only be lynched if a blue claim comes. Which should happen when it is 3 vs 1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 14:24 GMT
#1442
Well when it is the last day I reconsider everything. But would make sense if we have 2 blues.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 14:25 GMT
#1443
GB blue read on rayn was very impressive btw.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
May 05 2020 14:34 GMT
#1444
I think too little importance is given to the factoid that Shockeyy was a mason and his partner didn't save him and the other bits of info regarding it.

Also no roleblock claim after N1.

Rayn died after claiming cop, Chezinu claims roleblocked on same night.

See where I'm going with this?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 15:12 GMT
#1445
Yes. I thought Shockey fakeclaimed because I only saw something green but I was so sad that I didnt read mucj.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 15:13 GMT
#1446
If Jock is mafia I think GB looks okish anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 15:31 GMT
#1447
On May 06 2020 00:13 Koshi wrote:
If Jock is mafia I think GB looks okish anyway.

Explanation: d1 looks slighlty better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9727 Posts
May 05 2020 15:43 GMT
#1448
On May 05 2020 21:16 Vivax wrote:
Yo.
So, Jock, here we are.

##Vote Jock

As you might have figured out yesterday, I have some issues with some reads of yours.
Last day you had Trfel and me in your PoE, today also but now you're saying we're mutually exclusively mafia. The reasoning for that is nowhere to be seen. Adding a / is convenient when you're limiting yourself to three scumreads, I can understand that, but it's just lazy.

In theory, you are now in a spot where you can singlehandedly save town. Everyone reads your posts. What do you do? You post a list and kinda say 'meh but if I die town loses'.

If I were in your spot I'd be on a crusade right now to lynch my scumreads, I'd try to find every single scummy fucker on my wagon and call them out. But we get a meek list with poorly explained reads and somehow I'm mafia with Chez even though we're on the same page with thinking that his play this game has just been blue hunting.

Also, he's claiming a roleblock. Question to everyone: Did anyone get roleblocked N1? I went back and looked through every single post after N1 which was a massive pain in the butt and I can assure you I didn't spot any roleblock, unless Jock put one in a spoiler.

So here's my problem: Chez is basically coming at mylo, pretended not-so-subtly to be blue all game long, didn't get shot, and after N2 claims that there's a mafia roleblocker that didn't do anything N1.

To add insult to injury, Shockeyy said he was masoned with someone who was roleplaying and who he thought was Chez, and that mason is almost guaranteed to be mafia because he didn't claim to confirm Shockeyy's claim.

So Jock, I am mafia with Chez?


Can we all take a minute to marvel at the mental gymnastics going on in this post?

1: Vivax suggesting he can't be mafia with chez because he thinks that chez was blue hunting and said so earlier in the thread.
2: I also think chez was blue hunting, as i said earlier in the thread.
3: Vivax says that because of this, I am mafia with Chez.

Why the double standard on this? I assume you think I am bussing Chez, but you seem angry that I think the same about you.

If chez is confirmed scum in your eyes then lynch chez. If you are less sure about me kill me tomorrow, maybe you will realize before that that i'm town. This stuff about you'd rather not buy time isn't sensible. If you're town its really not sensible. Why aren't you buying more time to see if another confirmed scum is revealed? Why not kill the confirmed scum and see what information comes from the night kill to narrow things down?
If we kill chez we're out of mylo (maths check please, anyone) and then we have a mislynch to play with. I'm surprised you didn't factor this into your calculations vivax.

So with regards to lynching me vs lynching chez, easier is not better, unless you are scum of course.

And yeah, chez is definitely mafia here. Like go back and look at his roleplaying posts earlier. Were any of them designed to get a reaction of any kind from anyone, or were they just stuff written in the thread? I expect much better than that from chez, especially with RPing which he seems to enjoy. To me it looks like he felt he had to roleplay here but didn't have any townie purpose behind it at all, and didn't even try to garner any reads out of it (despite a vague assertion that trfel wouldn't normally spot a hint that was never explained), instead using it to try and get reactions from blues.

With regards to you/trfel being mutually exclusive, I have mafia spots 1 & 2 taken by chez and koshi, so the third is up for grabs. Unfortunately all of the other contestants had to drop out due to obligations to the town, but you and trfel still get to compete for the prize, don't worry.

And as for your poking me to be super active and all over the thread (on a crusade) I can't play like that any more I just don't have the mental energy for it. I mostly make longer but less frequent posts now and that's the way its gonna be.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The biggest question I have to answer right now is whether I would lynch Vivax with chez. My feeling is that no I wouldn't join a lynch that chez has proposed more than once or shown particular interest in.

I find Vivax's reasoning over the last page to be very poor and if I had to say why it would have something to do with the ease with which he can lynch me, guilt free, without taking responsibility for it. That could be, and likely is, mafia motivated.

Chezinu outright blaming rayn for his vote being on me without providing reasoning other than 'rayn said so', while having me saying i'm his last option for scum, is very similar, but much worse.



RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9727 Posts
May 05 2020 15:51 GMT
#1449
##vote: chezinu
RIP Meatloaf <3
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:01 GMT
#1450
On May 05 2020 12:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:09 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason it feels hopeless to me is no one can come to a consensus on anyone let alone the right people.

I dont care if Trfel is active as all hell and... saying big cases and wondering who is scum all the time. It still looks textbook scum to me but it is like pulling teeth to get anyone to agree with that.

In fact. After what GB said

##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel


I seriously think he is more likely to flip red than Jock is. Because I may SR jock but that is only because I think the dead hate him except that the dead also hate me, so I’d better not read based on the incorrect dead (and the provably incorrect dead at that).


Alright Slam, let's talk about his.
Why do you think Trfel is scum specifically?

What does he think of anything? He has been all hopeless and scared since day 1
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 16:04 GMT
#1451
Even if we lynch Chezinu and he is mafia, we're still in MYLO I'm pretty sure. Since mafia will night kill another.

Current is 5 v 3.
Lynch mafia, 5 v 2. Night kill, 4 v 2 MYLO.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:06 GMT
#1452
On May 05 2020 14:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 14:36 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 14:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 14:23 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 14:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 14:15 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 14:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 13:55 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 13:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
Hey GlowingBear, have you been feeling any better?

How's life been the past few years? I guess it's been quite a while since we really talked.


Oh I just saw this post.

Yes, I'm feeling better. I was just under some major stress and saturday I had some kind of breakdown. Fortunately, it helped me a lot.
Still feeling headaches and muscular pain but it's a bit less.

Last few years was tough. I had a big life crisis three years ago. And here I am now thank you for asking, Trfel. What about you?
Btw, Trfel, I coached you once, didn't I?
Glad to hear! It makes sense, I'm really glad you are doing better, hopefully you can continue to recover. Mostly stress from work?

Glad you made it through! I guess I'm kinda in a life crisis currently, I think I am going to go back to school and try and get a different degree. So that will be fun, more school....

Yes, I think you coached me twice, actually! Which is why my play early in the game can tend to be similar to yours (to get discussion started). I think I've improved my read accuracy significantly over the last few years, ironically the rest of my play has gotten worse over the same time, but ah well. I appreciate your willingness to help and offer advice


Dude, we learn A LOT from life crisis. You have to be strong, though. If you're resilient enough, you'll see that you're stronger than you think. And will be more able to deal with problems.
May I ask what did you graduate at?

Yeah, I realized we have similar playstyles I believe I changed a bit since I stopped playing, anyway. Your style is good, PADAWAN APPROVED
Unfortunately I'm not very strong I've been dealing with quite a bit of depression these past few years, it's been making life quite difficult. Hopeful that things can start to improve though!

Aw, thanks I appreciate it! I didn't realize you officially stopped, are you just playing now because of the virus or what? And if I may, how did your style change?


I've dealt with depression too. If it's not clinical (definitely go see a psychiatrist), then a therapist and physical exercise will help you deal with it. Still today I fight it a bit. Once I feel depression coming, I accept it and work with it. The black dog stuff is a nice way to portrait depression.

Yes, I came back because of the virus. I thought "okay, maybe a good time to play mafia". My style changed because I became way less emotional and paranoid. So, that's good
Unfortunately mine is clinical, I've been in therapy and psychiatry for years and even a hospital stay from it What do you mean by the black dog stuff?

I only came back because of the virus too, honestly I've been enjoying it though. Fun game, fun people Even once this ends, consider coming back every once in a while! It'd be too bad if you stopped permanently. Though I guess everyone does eventually...

Haha, sounds good ^^ But paranoia is so much fun!


I didn't had time because I started working with theater too. And when you're in rehearsals, it's impossible to play mafia. But anyway, let's see what happens after this coronavirus stuff. Maybe I keep playing. Thanks for that good to know I'm welcome. Know that this is reciprocal.
If I may, what kind of involvement with theater? And thanks, I really do appreciate it

The more I think about it, the more your team does make sense. In some ways it makes more sense than my team. For example, I think it's weird putting you and Jockmcplop as mafia together, given how you went after Jockmcplop's joke vote so solidly and for so long. And I don't have many good reasons for Alakaslam to be mafia besides POE But for some reason it still feels like it has to be right.


I do almost everything in theater, I've been an actor, playwright, producer, you name it. But mainly, stage director. It's a second career as I don't earn almost anything with it rofl.

The only reason I have to believe slam COULD be mafia is his wishy washiness, his lack of involvement in decisive moments. He being upset with shockey being lynch felt way too forced, he didn't seem to carry that much about what was happening during the day. But that's all.

Dude, did you somehow forget that is because I LITERALLY DIDNT POST ALL DAY AS I WAS FUCKING GONE, LITERALLY? I was literally fucking all day and even said it with tmi but maybe it wasnt so shocking since you forgot so fast lol
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:09 GMT
#1453
On May 05 2020 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 15:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 05 2020 05:40 Chezinu wrote:
##vote Jockmcplop

On May 05 2020 15:01 Chezinu wrote:
Mafia suspects:
6. Vivax
9. Koshi
12. Trfel

7. Alakaslam
8. Jockmcplop


Not even a hint in your filter of this before today. It came out of nowhere, even for you.

rayn started it. that is why you are at the bottom

Rayn is the sheep of doom. He jumped off the cliff being wrong over and over even as the cop and town will sheep him straight to a loss.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 16:09 GMT
#1454
Alakaslam, if you were to assume I was town, what would you think about the rest of the game? Who would be mafia then?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:11 GMT
#1455
On May 05 2020 15:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
At the moment

town:
Jock
Grack
GB

null:
slam

Mafia
chez
koshi
vivax/trfel

I'm starting to think slam is town. He's still null rather than a townread, but his tone today isn't one that I can see in his mafia meta and i've looked at all of his mafia games in the archive. He's annoyed and sounds defeated, which i didn't see at all in his meta. He's also been quick to take things personally the whole game and I don't see that much in his mafia meta either.

Can I ask why everyone is quick to TR chez? I know he has claimed again but he has claimed like three or four times different roles this game. Why do you believe him unconditionally now with no evidence when you didn't believe him before. It looks more like PR hunting to me.

because they are sheeping rayn to the slaughterhouse
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:12 GMT
#1456
On May 05 2020 15:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 15:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Given that if you lynch me its game over.
But that's not a worry of mine...

If you are town though, can't you convince me to lynch someone other than Chezinu? If you are town and even if Chezinu is somehow mafia, there are still two more mafia to lynch today. It doesn't have to be Chezinu.

Wtf this looks like a scum claim
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:14 GMT
#1457
On May 05 2020 16:30 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 16:19 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:07 Chezinu wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:23 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:20 Chezinu wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:18 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:14 Chezinu wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:11 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:10 Chezinu wrote:
On May 05 2020 15:09 Trfel wrote:
[quote]That's a fair point, I do likes the teddy.

Didn't you want to kill the teddy last game though?

yeah, but that was a totally different teddy.
How the heck do you post so fast ><

Fair enough Chezinu. May I one day see the way you see.

I don't know.

Well, I coded fully time for 2 years... stack that on gaming.. I can type decently. Oh, I am also not planning any evil schemes.. so it makes posting faster.

I'm not sure that you would want to see the way that I see. There are much better ways to see. I do have a color blindness with the red,blue roles. I don't know everything. I sometimes need a Light to help guide me. Too see much clearer. Perhaps you will see far clearer than me one day. But that is to assume that I see clearer than you... That was be an assumption that I would not know since I don't see the way you see.
That does make sense. And fair enough, I'd like to be able to see as you see in addition to how I see though It seems like such a fun way to view things.

@GlowingBear, no idea how you got me to get out of bed and go to my computer so I could verify something for a scumread that relies on them not being mafia, but you did, haha.


+ Show Spoiler +
I <3 Jesus

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, makes life make sense. I know it's cliche, but true.
+ Show Spoiler +
Same here Glad to hear it!


+ Show Spoiler +
Dear God,

Master troller of all men. A great fisher of men. As Psalm 2 says, you laugh. So help us Lord in this time of trolling. It is said you care even about the sparrows and are willing to give children scraps to dogs. For your scraps, yes your food, are great! Give us our daily bread to your beloved children and feed our spirit with the Bread of Life. For He is the source and we are the branches. Let your Holy Spirit continue to speak with our spirit as we abide in you.

So, help us Lord. Help us find the last mafias. Give Mr. Truffle clear vision to see what he needs to see. Also, eliminate his depression so he can laugh at what is to come.

Help us troll the truth by the authority of Jesus Christ, let it be done.
+ Show Spoiler +
Amen! Thanks Chezinu, I appreciate it

Though is prayer to help find mafia legal? I'd think it would give us quite the advantage...


In all sincerity, I prayed to God in a mafia game before. It was a season in life where God was showing me that he even cared about the little things and he was present.

That game was Mini Mafia II, where I DT'ed checked two mafia players in a row. I never told anyone here in TL mafia about that though. God kept revealing himself to me during that time period. It was a time where I sought him the most. Years later, I went through different seasons where I had to learn to trust God even when I didn't hear him. Not pleasant times, especially when you get use to him speaking to you almost daily. But fortunately that season ended. Even during that time, God was still show up and it wasn't as often. Trials. FYI, I had a clinical depression in high school that lasted 6 months. Never went to the doctor since I was in high school. Too young for medication. I remember that I couldn't even taste food. I just ate to eat. Didn't find any enjoyment in playing games. I just went through the routine. The funny thing was that I was running cross country at that time. I remember the physical pain of running was nothing compared to what I was feeling. I ended making my best times that year. God was with me during that time, although I was depressed. Afterwards, the depression ended before summer and I remember having so much fun playing WOW. Everything was working again. It was great. Makes you thankful looking back.

Dem inspirational feels

They be strong

Спасибо
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:15 GMT
#1458
On May 05 2020 16:38 Koshi wrote:
Grack his filter is like godlike. Unlynchable and then a greencheck. LoL.

Anyway. If youbare blue you should probably claim tomorrow so we can put Chez on the table. Today I guess it should be jock. Tomorrow Slam unless there is a cc to chez.

And then mylo. Fun fun.

Couldnt there be a godfather role? That just hit me.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 16:21 GMT
#1459
On May 06 2020 01:09 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, if you were to assume I was town, what would you think about the rest of the game? Who would be mafia then?

I’d be clueless for a complete team, but for the other two I was most suspicious of jock and chez and grack which I realize doesnt make sense. I’ve basically got nothing if you are town.

Even if upu are mafia I dont have enough.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 16:32 GMT
#1460
Alakaslam, you wouldn't happen to be a mason, would you?
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