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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 07:53 GMT
#1421
On May 05 2020 16:51 Koshi wrote:
And if 1 thing is certain it is that we know nothing at all.

Fixed
I had a good night of sleep.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 07:54 GMT
#1422
On May 05 2020 16:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 16:51 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:48 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:42 Koshi wrote:
And if last is between me and gb I know the answer but hey that will be up to Vivax to decide.

What about me, I get to decide too

In all seriousness though, I'd be happy to talk about Jockmcplop. I do strongly believe he is mafia but honestly I don't really know why. And it would be not ideal to mislynch right now.

My main argument is activity and fluff in the filter, it feels like he's burnt out from rolling mafia twice in a row. I do think my case on him was pretty good, I know most of it was the exceptions to my case so it doesn't feel strong, but read Jockmcplop's filter and look for what his reads are (not just thoughts, reads) and I think that is telling. A quality post has reads and well thought explanations, and Jockmcplop does not have many of those at all.

But again, I am very happy to discuss this, it's quite important.

You will die with chez during nights.
Hm, if they kill me over confirmed town Grackaroni I would think that would be a very positive outcome for town.

"Confirmed"
There is a potential framer and a gf.
Hm, I guess I didn't think about that :/
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 07:55 GMT
#1423
On May 05 2020 16:52 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 16:50 Koshi wrote:
No need to discuss. Just vote.
Information is in the thread. No need to create more.
Fair enough, I'm mostly just bored, haha. Sorry if I am keeping you from something or if you don't feel like playing.

No no. I am fine being here but I cant do analysis or play this game. The fun has been drained out. I really only enjoy d1 tbh. I used to be good at that.

Maybe if gb is mafia that is a bit redeeming. But I am far from sure atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 07:55 GMT
#1424
On May 05 2020 16:54 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 16:51 Koshi wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:51 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:48 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:42 Koshi wrote:
And if last is between me and gb I know the answer but hey that will be up to Vivax to decide.

What about me, I get to decide too

In all seriousness though, I'd be happy to talk about Jockmcplop. I do strongly believe he is mafia but honestly I don't really know why. And it would be not ideal to mislynch right now.

My main argument is activity and fluff in the filter, it feels like he's burnt out from rolling mafia twice in a row. I do think my case on him was pretty good, I know most of it was the exceptions to my case so it doesn't feel strong, but read Jockmcplop's filter and look for what his reads are (not just thoughts, reads) and I think that is telling. A quality post has reads and well thought explanations, and Jockmcplop does not have many of those at all.

But again, I am very happy to discuss this, it's quite important.

You will die with chez during nights.
Hm, if they kill me over confirmed town Grackaroni I would think that would be a very positive outcome for town.

"Confirmed"
There is a potential framer and a gf.
Hm, I guess I didn't think about that :/

Purposely forgot because you are mafia with Grack.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 07:56 GMT
#1425
Is that even a word. Purposely. It means On purpose.
I had a good night of sleep.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 07:56 GMT
#1426
On May 05 2020 16:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 16:52 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:50 Koshi wrote:
No need to discuss. Just vote.
Information is in the thread. No need to create more.
Fair enough, I'm mostly just bored, haha. Sorry if I am keeping you from something or if you don't feel like playing.

No no. I am fine being here but I cant do analysis or play this game. The fun has been drained out. I really only enjoy d1 tbh. I used to be good at that.

Maybe if gb is mafia that is a bit redeeming. But I am far from sure atm.
Fair enough, I'm sorry it's not fun anymore I struggle at Day 1's, I wish I could be good at them. Teach me your secrets ^^
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 07:57 GMT
#1427
On May 05 2020 16:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 16:54 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:51 Koshi wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:51 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:48 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 16:42 Koshi wrote:
And if last is between me and gb I know the answer but hey that will be up to Vivax to decide.

What about me, I get to decide too

In all seriousness though, I'd be happy to talk about Jockmcplop. I do strongly believe he is mafia but honestly I don't really know why. And it would be not ideal to mislynch right now.

My main argument is activity and fluff in the filter, it feels like he's burnt out from rolling mafia twice in a row. I do think my case on him was pretty good, I know most of it was the exceptions to my case so it doesn't feel strong, but read Jockmcplop's filter and look for what his reads are (not just thoughts, reads) and I think that is telling. A quality post has reads and well thought explanations, and Jockmcplop does not have many of those at all.

But again, I am very happy to discuss this, it's quite important.

You will die with chez during nights.
Hm, if they kill me over confirmed town Grackaroni I would think that would be a very positive outcome for town.

"Confirmed"
There is a potential framer and a gf.
Hm, I guess I didn't think about that :/

Purposely forgot because you are mafia with Grack.
Oops Gave it away
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
May 05 2020 12:16 GMT
#1428
Yo.
So, Jock, here we are.

##Vote Jock

As you might have figured out yesterday, I have some issues with some reads of yours.
Last day you had Trfel and me in your PoE, today also but now you're saying we're mutually exclusively mafia. The reasoning for that is nowhere to be seen. Adding a / is convenient when you're limiting yourself to three scumreads, I can understand that, but it's just lazy.

In theory, you are now in a spot where you can singlehandedly save town. Everyone reads your posts. What do you do? You post a list and kinda say 'meh but if I die town loses'.

If I were in your spot I'd be on a crusade right now to lynch my scumreads, I'd try to find every single scummy fucker on my wagon and call them out. But we get a meek list with poorly explained reads and somehow I'm mafia with Chez even though we're on the same page with thinking that his play this game has just been blue hunting.

Also, he's claiming a roleblock. Question to everyone: Did anyone get roleblocked N1? I went back and looked through every single post after N1 which was a massive pain in the butt and I can assure you I didn't spot any roleblock, unless Jock put one in a spoiler.

So here's my problem: Chez is basically coming at mylo, pretended not-so-subtly to be blue all game long, didn't get shot, and after N2 claims that there's a mafia roleblocker that didn't do anything N1.

To add insult to injury, Shockeyy said he was masoned with someone who was roleplaying and who he thought was Chez, and that mason is almost guaranteed to be mafia because he didn't claim to confirm Shockeyy's claim.

So Jock, I am mafia with Chez?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
May 05 2020 12:30 GMT
#1429
One more alternative scenario that just eluded me and the only one in my opinion that excuses Chez roleblock claim is that scum thought Fefe was veteran for some reason and roleblocked him the same night of the kill, which I find pretty unlikely, so I didn't even think of that before.

Either way, I don't believe a word of what Chez is saying.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 13:00 GMT
#1430
Vivax, do you think we should lynch Chezinu here? I take it the answer is no because of your vote, but just wanted to clarify/ask a question out of boredom and inability to sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
May 05 2020 13:22 GMT
#1431
On May 05 2020 22:00 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you think we should lynch Chezinu here? I take it the answer is no because of your vote, but just wanted to clarify/ask a question out of boredom and inability to sleep.


It doesn't matter to me. One to me is confirmed scum, the other is a guaranteed loss for town if he's town so we might as well lynch jock because lynching chez just buys us more time to lynch jock.

If you catch my meaning, I'd take the riskier lynch today even over confirmed scum because if Jock is town we most likely lose even if we lynch scum now.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 13:35 GMT
#1432
On May 05 2020 22:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 22:00 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, do you think we should lynch Chezinu here? I take it the answer is no because of your vote, but just wanted to clarify/ask a question out of boredom and inability to sleep.


It doesn't matter to me. One to me is confirmed scum, the other is a guaranteed loss for town if he's town so we might as well lynch jock because lynching chez just buys us more time to lynch jock.

If you catch my meaning, I'd take the riskier lynch today even over confirmed scum because if Jock is town we most likely lose even if we lynch scum now.
Fair enough, thanks. That makes sense.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
May 05 2020 13:35 GMT
#1433
Though probably Jock will say that just confirms I'm mafia with Chez or something.

Looking at Fefe's filter again, he had Chez and Slam as scumreads along Grack and Shockeyy of which one is greenchecked and the other flipped.

That's about as many pointers you will get from Chez to him being scum, along with me being so sure of him being mafia here.

Also worth mentioning that Slam has a PoE with Jock in it but votes Trfel today which is not going to happen.
For Slam I'd like him to just look at my posts and ask him if he still thinks Chez is confirmed town.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 13:40 GMT
#1434
Hm, didn't think about that I thought Chezinu was very likely town, I guess I assumed far too quickly. Thanks for pointing that out.

I take it you consider Grackaroni confirmed town then?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
May 05 2020 13:43 GMT
#1435
On May 05 2020 22:40 Trfel wrote:
Hm, didn't think about that I thought Chezinu was very likely town, I guess I assumed far too quickly. Thanks for pointing that out.

I take it you consider Grackaroni confirmed town then?


There's no point considering that he isn't because of framers, godfathers, fairies and unicorns and everything else at this point in the game.

If he is, someone else can break his head over this later. But with 3 mafia left, what's the point of doubting the checked guy first? Look for the other two at least if you think Grack is scum.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 13:49 GMT
#1436
On May 05 2020 22:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 22:40 Trfel wrote:
Hm, didn't think about that I thought Chezinu was very likely town, I guess I assumed far too quickly. Thanks for pointing that out.

I take it you consider Grackaroni confirmed town then?


There's no point considering that he isn't because of framers, godfathers, fairies and unicorns and everything else at this point in the game.

If he is, someone else can break his head over this later. But with 3 mafia left, what's the point of doubting the checked guy first? Look for the other two at least if you think Grack is scum.
Fair enough, that makes sense. Thanks.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
May 05 2020 13:55 GMT
#1437
I believe in Koshi, he will come back to the thread with newfound righteous fury and see what I see.
Rayn kill really played a number on him, but it's winnable.

It really makes sense to me on this day if you look at the N1 kill. Medic dodge? Nah. Vet dodge? Maybe. Killed for reads? Definitely.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 14:18 GMT
#1438
On May 05 2020 22:35 Vivax wrote:
Though probably Jock will say that just confirms I'm mafia with Chez or something.

Looking at Fefe's filter again, he had Chez and Slam as scumreads along Grack and Shockeyy of which one is greenchecked and the other flipped.

That's about as many pointers you will get from Chez to him being scum, along with me being so sure of him being mafia here.

Also worth mentioning that Slam has a PoE with Jock in it but votes Trfel today which is not going to happen.
For Slam I'd like him to just look at my posts and ask him if he still thinks Chez is confirmed town.

Slam voted jock??? Oh boi.
Mafia should always buss d3 after 2 ml.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 14:20 GMT
#1439
On May 05 2020 22:55 Vivax wrote:
I believe in Koshi, he will come back to the thread with newfound righteous fury and see what I see.
Rayn kill really played a number on him, but it's winnable.

It really makes sense to me on this day if you look at the N1 kill. Medic dodge? Nah. Vet dodge? Maybe. Killed for reads? Definitely.

So you say Jock into slam into chez?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 05 2020 14:21 GMT
#1440
Btw I remember why I really thought Jock is town. Because I thought GB was mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
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