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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 03:06 GMT
#1301
Or frankly town is playing like shit but it is easier for me to say mafia is playing really well since I still have some dignity.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 05 2020 03:09 GMT
#1302
The reason it feels hopeless to me is no one can come to a consensus on anyone let alone the right people.

I dont care if Trfel is active as all hell and... saying big cases and wondering who is scum all the time. It still looks textbook scum to me but it is like pulling teeth to get anyone to agree with that.

In fact. After what GB said

##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel


I seriously think he is more likely to flip red than Jock is. Because I may SR jock but that is only because I think the dead hate him except that the dead also hate me, so I’d better not read based on the incorrect dead (and the provably incorrect dead at that).
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
May 05 2020 03:10 GMT
#1303
On May 05 2020 12:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Or frankly town is playing like shit but it is easier for me to say mafia is playing really well since I still have some dignity.

It's hard to say town is playing like shit without including in yourself or having the game solved.

It seems like the mafia team played well. I'm mostly just hoping it's Jock lol.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 03:13 GMT
#1304
The mafia team has played very well this game.

However, so did raynpelikoneet. Trust raynpelikoneet. Vote Jockmcplop.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 03:29 GMT
#1305
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 05 2020 03:34 GMT
#1306
On May 05 2020 11:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 11:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 03 2020 19:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 03 2020 06:56 Trfel wrote:
On May 03 2020 06:41 Vivax wrote:
On May 03 2020 06:19 Trfel wrote:
On May 03 2020 05:41 Vivax wrote:
On May 03 2020 05:37 Trfel wrote:
I take it people were very underwhelmed by my post on GlowingBear


Hard to think of something I'm not underwhelmed from.
Which people btw.

##Vote rayn
Just no one commented on it. Maybe I need to rewrite it.

Voting raynpelikoneet if he doesn't play makes sense? Except for a lot of people aren't playing currently


Yeah I'm sorry if I don't pay too much attention to your case right now. I'm also kinda triggered that today to me feels like a circlejerk between you and me.

But if vets I'm used to like Koshi and rayn basically put 1% of the effort they did on D1, coupled with the FF kill, then odds are at least one of them is mafia. And I'm putting my money on rayn, also because of his voting shenanigans yesterday.
Hm, that makes sense, fair enough. I'll keep my vote on GlowingBear for now (I'm most confident he is mafia) but I guess I could vote for raynpelikoneet if things keep going this way.

Also, sorry Jockmcplop, realized I forgot to respond to you. I am sorry for being incorrect. For some reason I'm having trouble finding the posts in your filter. I take it the reason you ask is because you're scumreading Koshi too, so the same logic that it looks suspicious for GlowingBear should look suspicious for you too. That makes sense but I don't think it really applies to this case, since this is more of an emotional point. GlowingBear should be much more emotionally invested in his scumread of Koshi if he is town, and I would expect that to come out much more in his play.


OK. Thanks for responding. I don't like this argument, at least I can't go along with it, because someone's emotional investment in the game is something you get to know about each individual player and I don't really know GB at all. If I was sure you were town I would be more likely to take your word for it, but I'm not.

As for the other parts of your case:
1. Scumread Koshi for misconstruing GlowingBear's play. However, note the timing, he scumread Koshi well after this all started. Despite GlowingBear not having a townread on Koshi, he got mad at Koshi and treated Koshi like town and never questioned that he could be mafia until much later, when raynpelikoneet asks him about Koshi. This doesn't feel natural at all. Town tend to be quick to call their accusers scum, especially when they feel misrepresented and ignored and all the things GlowingBear was saying.


Point 1 does get my interest. Do you have quotes to back this up?
2. Shifting reads. His scumreads shift in priority in a way that doesn't make sense. First he says Jockmcplop is mafia, and Alakaslam second. Then he says Jockmcplop and Koshi are mafia, and raynpelikoneet or Alakaslam. Then he was making a case on raynpelikoneet to defend himself (huh?). Then most recently raynpelikoneet as top mafia. It doesn't feel like he is putting much thought into his scumreads.


Point 2 is actually the reason i was townreading GB to start with. I think he would have taken the opportunity to get a mislynch on me rather than just townreading me because I didn't vote. He's reacting to what is happening in the thread. I take it you think these reactions are not genuine looking. Is that because of bad reasoning or just a feeling you get?



I'm diving jock's filter.

Here's the thing: why would jock defend me if he is scum here? He is in the chopping block day1 and instead of jumping on a wrong case, he decided it was better to talk about it point by point, debunking it. I don't see mafia!jock doing that.

we're at 5-3 at this point and you/Jock both write each other off as possible mafia just for choosing not to lynch each other. I kind of doubt you would both do that as a team, but I think 1 of you two has to be mafia.


It's MYLO. I have to think who might be town so I can work with knowing who's mafia. I don't think he is mafia.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 05 2020 03:36 GMT
#1307
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 03:37 GMT
#1308
Hey GlowingBear, have you been feeling any better?

How's life been the past few years? I guess it's been quite a while since we really talked.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 03:37 GMT
#1309
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 05 2020 03:41 GMT
#1310
On May 05 2020 12:09 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason it feels hopeless to me is no one can come to a consensus on anyone let alone the right people.

I dont care if Trfel is active as all hell and... saying big cases and wondering who is scum all the time. It still looks textbook scum to me but it is like pulling teeth to get anyone to agree with that.

In fact. After what GB said

##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel


I seriously think he is more likely to flip red than Jock is. Because I may SR jock but that is only because I think the dead hate him except that the dead also hate me, so I’d better not read based on the incorrect dead (and the provably incorrect dead at that).


Alright Slam, let's talk about his.
Why do you think Trfel is scum specifically?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 05 2020 03:42 GMT
#1311
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.


Because...?
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 03:44 GMT
#1312
On May 05 2020 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.


Because...?
I guess I just kinda assumed since he's been hinting at it and raynpelikoneet believed it. Plus, no one else has claimed blue yet and this would have been the time to do it (given that it's MYLO). I'd be very, very, very surprised if there was only one blue in a 12 player game.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 05 2020 03:52 GMT
#1313
On May 05 2020 12:44 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.


Because...?
I guess I just kinda assumed since he's been hinting at it and raynpelikoneet believed it. Plus, no one else has claimed blue yet and this would have been the time to do it (given that it's MYLO). I'd be very, very, very surprised if there was only one blue in a 12 player game.


So did Slam?
Also, Chez didn't claim.

@Chez, are you a blue role?
I'm adorable.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 04:00 GMT
#1314
On May 05 2020 12:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:44 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.


Because...?
I guess I just kinda assumed since he's been hinting at it and raynpelikoneet believed it. Plus, no one else has claimed blue yet and this would have been the time to do it (given that it's MYLO). I'd be very, very, very surprised if there was only one blue in a 12 player game.


So did Slam?
Also, Chez didn't claim.

@Chez, are you a blue role?
I thought Chezinu's was a joke?

I'm horrid about people hinting at roles and subtleties and things. I guess I'll take another look at it, but raynpelikoneet obviously saw something, so I think that's a valid point.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
May 05 2020 04:02 GMT
#1315
On May 05 2020 13:00 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:44 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.


Because...?
I guess I just kinda assumed since he's been hinting at it and raynpelikoneet believed it. Plus, no one else has claimed blue yet and this would have been the time to do it (given that it's MYLO). I'd be very, very, very surprised if there was only one blue in a 12 player game.


So did Slam?
Also, Chez didn't claim.

@Chez, are you a blue role?
I thought Chezinu's was a joke?

I'm horrid about people hinting at roles and subtleties and things. I guess I'll take another look at it, but raynpelikoneet obviously saw something, so I think that's a valid point.

Chez has been role playing as the federal reserve/doctor.

I agree if someone else is blue they should claim.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 04:07 GMT
#1316
On May 05 2020 13:02 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 13:00 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:44 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:37 Trfel wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?


Trfel, what do you think of Chez?
Blue.


Because...?
I guess I just kinda assumed since he's been hinting at it and raynpelikoneet believed it. Plus, no one else has claimed blue yet and this would have been the time to do it (given that it's MYLO). I'd be very, very, very surprised if there was only one blue in a 12 player game.


So did Slam?
Also, Chez didn't claim.

@Chez, are you a blue role?
I thought Chezinu's was a joke?

I'm horrid about people hinting at roles and subtleties and things. I guess I'll take another look at it, but raynpelikoneet obviously saw something, so I think that's a valid point.

Chez has been role playing as the federal reserve/doctor.

I agree if someone else is blue they should claim.
Ah, thanks, that makes sense.

Chezinu = blue
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 04:08 GMT
#1317
And sorry, I meant Alakaslam's, not Chezinu's, obviously. His claim seemed obviously farcical to me.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 05 2020 04:16 GMT
#1318
ARgh

##Unvote
I'm adorable.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9855 Posts
May 05 2020 04:24 GMT
#1319
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?

I think Rayn is right Jockmcplop has been underwhelming and the possible mafia are getting narrowed down.

I still think you could be mafia but Rayn/you both seem to be acting like your play this game is outside of your mafia range and I don't think I would go against that.

I'd guess Koshi as well since he isn't obvious town. He's usually the cockiest player and during the night he was blaming me for misleading him as a beacon of smartness. Most of the time Koshi/Rayn should have died ahead of FF.

I'd never lynch Vivax.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
May 05 2020 04:30 GMT
#1320
On May 05 2020 13:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 12:29 Trfel wrote:
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts on Jockmcplop right now?

What are your thoughts on me?

I think Rayn is right Jockmcplop has been underwhelming and the possible mafia are getting narrowed down.

I still think you could be mafia but Rayn/you both seem to be acting like your play this game is outside of your mafia range and I don't think I would go against that.

I'd guess Koshi as well since he isn't obvious town. He's usually the cockiest player and during the night he was blaming me for misleading him as a beacon of smartness. Most of the time Koshi/Rayn should have died ahead of FF.

I'd never lynch Vivax.
Fair enough, makes sense. If Jockmcplop were to come back and be a shining light of towniness, do you know who you would lynch then?
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