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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Feels like town has a lot of different reads. Still not happy about GB. His chain of posts was not good enough to not scumread him. Shockey same. Maybe even less than GB. Defended his vote against me and then just ignored my entire existence. Feels like mafia keeping all options open to park his vote. Grack was interesting. But I can't do anything with him or the info he gave. Not yet. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Chezinu
United States7468 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 30 2020 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Care to explain? I don't think I felt the same way :/ Though I can always reread.I have many problems with grackaronis posts. | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
Kurumi are you still 100% scum, nevertown on Trfel?Because your argument that he was lying just because he posted more than he promised still runs on thin ice (yeah that's not your only one but one you should probably backtrack on, if you're town). | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Reminds me, that's another thing about Kurumi I don't like. In his discussion with Jockmcplop, he learned (and seemed to accept) that posts like my entrance post were normal and acceptable on this forum at this time. But why didn't that affect his read at all? :/ | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
On April 30 2020 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: The whole voting Koshi then unvoting and every piece of it for shit reasons. Rayn I'm not too convinced by this reasoning for your vote here. What makes you sure he wasn't legit joking/making a play there when he added the smiley at the end? I'm not. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 30 2020 20:45 Trfel wrote: Care to explain? I don't think I felt the same way :/ Though I can always reread. It's mostly because he seems to be deciding on some reads and then looking for something to fit those reads. Let's see: There is way more to be said about Vivax than what Grack writes. Anyways that part isn't my main concern. On Kurumi: Here I don't see scum trying to explain why they aren't voting for somebody because they think another person might have a role. It doesn't seem like the kind of reasoning that mafia would come up with to justify avoiding voting on a partner. I can understand people thinking Kurumi is town. There is nothing wrong with that. However grack's reasoning here is that because rayn is mafia Kurumi cannot be mafia because Kurumi wouldn't do what he did in regards of Trfel and rayn. It's like absolutely idiotic to say Kurumi is town for that reason (especially when he later on says his read on me isn't even that strong). I think it's just a made up reason. Then there is the read on me: Rayn worries me. I made a note that I felt Rayn seemed defensive about needing to justify his own read more than having a strong scumread on Kurumi [...] If Rayn isn't interested in Kurumi that makes me feel stronger about my original interpretation of his post. It also seemed pretty clear to me that he was trying to win over Koshi while talking to him. Maybe he just has a fairly confident town read on Koshi, or he's got an interest in getting a Jock lynch over GB. Let's see here.. When ever have i had problems making a case on a townie when i am mafia, regardless of who the said person is (note that Grackaroni has already decided that Kurumi is town)? Like, Grack thinks i am mafia because i am afraid of calling Kurumi mafia. Does that sound reasonable knowing me -- to ANYONE? Because it shouldn't. The second part is also suspicious. Apparently it is suspicious for me that i am trying to win Koshi over? If it's not a thing that makes me suspicious then what is that whole thing doing in Grack's "rayn is mafia" post? Well, the thing here is that let's say this is true and i am mafia trying to win Koshi over. That should automatically translate (or the starting point should be) that Koshi is town. Why would i otherwise try to win Koshi over as mafia? Except that Grackaroni apparently doesn't think Koshi is town because it's not even in his weak town reads with Kurumi and Vivax. I don't really have a "problem" with the FF read, although i think FF is an easy target to attack here, since he hasn't done that much in comparison to other people. Ironically that's actually a town thing for FF. He is way more focused and "clean" as mafia than he is as town, which was the original reason for me townreading him, that hasn't changed. Also also.... I feel like GB is just saying stuff for sake of saying stuff. Like in almost all of his posts he declares why noone can ever think Kurumi is mafia and how Kurumi is 100% town but he has no indication of trying to ever figure out anything about the people who disagree with him. Knowing GB i would assume him to be fully shouting at me and Trfel at least. Instead of doing that (i mean like something productive) he is more interested in just backing on his own read. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 30 2020 21:19 Vivax wrote: Rayn I'm not too convinced by this reasoning for your vote here. What makes you sure he wasn't legit joking/making a play there when he added the smiley at the end? I'm not. Because he said he wasn't joking. | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
Well played if scum. Revisiting at a later day. GB not seeing it and calling him scum for shitposting is kinda bad. Makes me feel less good about my Jock vote together with rayn being too comfy with it as well. Dunno, maybe I should just yolo Shockeyy. | ||
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Vivax
22424 Posts
The whole pompousness of the post with the alas suggests otherwise to me, but I'd need Jock to say what it actually was. I can only guess. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Basically all the other mafia players in last two games have just been straight out saying bad stuff, if that's how you lynch mafia i am voting for people who do bad stuff. Jock is doing bad stuff. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Vivax
22424 Posts
On April 30 2020 11:16 ShoCkeyy wrote: I only voted Koshi to put more pressure on him after that opening, especially if it was going to be two votes already. I thought it would of been obvious. I already explained my reasoning why I thought it was a Koshi mafia opening. Are you serious?A pressure vote on Koshi who was freely posting anyway? Because you thought it was a mafia opening? Can't be one AND the other. ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/c32c5fa4acb60cfedb0cf605862fa944/tenor.gif?itemid=12788383) ##Unvote ##Vote: Shockeyy | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Vivax
22424 Posts
On April 30 2020 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi wasn't freely posting when Shockeyy voted for him tbh. He only started after Shockeyys vote. Shockeys explanation doesn't seem real to me. He had him as scum after one post. On April 30 2020 00:18 ShoCkeyy wrote: So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list. Then afterwards he says it was just a pressure vote. If you think someone made a scummy entrance, how do you go to saying it was just a pressure vote? And you're saying Koshi posted just because of Shockeyys vote, or what is the point you are trying to make here? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Vivax
22424 Posts
On April 30 2020 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am trying to make a point that if Shockeyy wants to pressure vote Koshi or thinks his entrance was scummy timeline-wise it makes sense. Koshi wasn't posting other than his opening -> Shockeyy votes. Koshi starts posting -> Shockeyy unvotes. I am not saying Koshi started posting just because Shockeyy voted for him lol. So where do you see Shockeyy townreading Koshi after saying his entrance was scummy? Because I would expect Shockeyy to at least say "oh, I thought his entrance was scummy, and I pressured him, but then he posted this which made me think he was town". And not just "Entrance looks like mafia. He posted something. Ergo he's not mafia" | ||
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