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On April 29 2020 10:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 06:59 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 05:20 Kurumi wrote:On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans. Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before? The only people I believe I have not played with are Shockeyy, Jockmcplop and Grackaroni. I believe we have played together (maybe even on a scum team?), I have played lots with rayn, Vivax, Koshi, Chezinu and probably Alakaslam could go into that category as well. So Fecalfeast, Trfel (you) and GlowingBear are people I should've played already but my meta judgement would be seriously impractical here. On April 29 2020 05:04 Vivax wrote:On April 29 2020 05:02 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans. Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before? He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player. I know he's played a bunch before, I've seen him around a bit before (forget where). The reason I ask is that he said he will be trying to make some meta reads, I'm curious if that's going to be based on previous game experience or if he intends on filter diving past games of unfamiliar players or what. I'm not a fan of that approach. Especially after not playing for so long. I agree Vivax! Actually, if I were in a self-deprecating mood I'd probably state outright that I don't feel meta-competent right now. Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that many players. Thanks for explaining! On April 29 2020 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:On April 29 2020 04:37 Trfel wrote:Hi all  In-game excuse, I'm going to be a bit lazy this game. Also more likely to be active late evening (PDT). No Trfel, you're either effortful or mafia. You hosted last game, where I was lazy and town? Come to think of it, GlowingBear, what do you think about Vivax's alignment? I don't think you were lazy at all. You started being lazy towards the end game, and that's when people started believing you're mafia. But you had an outstanding day1. Vivax is MAFIA and I'm voting him ##Vote: Vivax
You meant that gif??? That is not a mindmeld. That is seeing somebody made a good post and react on that. GB talked with tfrel and this was the result, a vote on you.
Like Tfrel directly asked GB about his comment and GB deflected it and voted you without reasoning. Without trying to help Tfrel form a real read on you.
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Also, why are you so eager to defend Jock from a lynch and to call me mafia for reasons that doesn't make me mafia, Koshi?
Tell me why Jock is so fucking town to you.
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On April 30 2020 23:35 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:27 Koshi wrote:On April 30 2020 23:22 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 23:04 Koshi wrote:
If people dont know why it is mafia:
45%) He is not looking for mafia.
30%) It is hard to freally give good reads when you are mafia not bothering to indepth read.
20%) It keeps his options open on all other players
5%) After we lynch GB there is no information in his filter. What do you mean he's not looking for mafia? He has Slam and Jock as his scumleans, pretty obviously. His thought process on Kurumi also feels genuine. With Kurumi calling out Trfel after GB did, ie the mindmeld. Sure, he isn't putting in the super work, but he's also ill. So right now it looks more like you are pushing him at all costs while he can't play optimally. What are your other reads Koshi? The jock scumread is pathetic. GB said that Jock said his vote was serieus and then backtracked that his vote was a joke. That is either: Misreading as mafia because you are not paying attention. Misrepresenting as mafia. Misreading so gravely as town that it is punishable by lynch. Koshi, that's not how I read Jock as mafia. He came to the thread, saw Shockeyy opening with a bad meta read on your opening post that only he could see, then Jock came to the thread and placed a vote on you like that was a joke. Then FF asked him why he was voting you. He then said he genuinely thought you are mafia (WHY?) and decided to unvote. This is clearly, for me, a mafia that decided to leave a vote on a wagon without thinking much but when pressured to say anything about it, didn't have any reasons and decided to backtrack. Now, I would understand if he just said "I was joking" or "I was just pressuring", but he said he "genuinely" thought you were mafia, which doesn't make sense from a town perspective. WHY would he unvote just because someone asked his opinon? What was so glaringly town from you at that time that made him unvote???
Sarcasm is hard to spot as mafia. This has been proven.
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On April 30 2020 23:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, why are you so eager to defend Jock from a lynch and to call me mafia for reasons that doesn't make me mafia, Koshi?
Tell me why Jock is so fucking town to you.
Who the fuck cares what Jock is to me.
This is you trying to discredit me by me having to proof Jock is town.
BUT JOKE IS ON YOU. I dont have to proof shit.
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On April 30 2020 23:31 Koshi wrote:
So why are you saying GB has a slam scumread????
Because I have? You would know if you ACTUALLY READ MY FILTER before throwing any suspicions on me.
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On April 30 2020 23:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:04 Koshi wrote:
If people dont know why it is mafia:
45%) He is not looking for mafia.
30%) It is hard to freally give good reads when you are mafia not bothering to indepth read.
20%) It keeps his options open on all other players
5%) After we lynch GB there is no information in his filter. What do you mean he's not looking for mafia? He has Slam and Jock as his scumleans, pretty obviously. His thought process on Kurumi also feels genuine. With Kurumi calling out Trfel after GB did, ie the mindmeld. Sure, he isn't putting in the super work, but he's also ill. So right now it looks more like you are pushing him at all costs while he can't play optimally. What are your other reads Koshi?
This is a fucking pathetic post by you Vivax and I will remeber this post for the rest of the game.
Bullshit upon bullshit upon bullshit
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On April 30 2020 23:39 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:31 Koshi wrote:
So why are you saying GB has a slam scumread???? Because I have? You would know if you ACTUALLY READ MY FILTER before throwing any suspicions on me.
PROOF IT
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On April 30 2020 23:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, why are you so eager to defend Jock from a lynch and to call me mafia for reasons that doesn't make me mafia, Koshi?
Tell me why Jock is so fucking town to you. Who the fuck cares what Jock is to me. This is you trying to discredit me by me having to proof Jock is town. BUT JOKE IS ON YOU. I dont have to proof shit.
Yes you fucking do because you're pushing my lynch for no fucking reason because I called Jock mafia and you have him town for no fucking reason.
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On April 30 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:39 GlowingBear wrote:On April 30 2020 23:31 Koshi wrote:
So why are you saying GB has a slam scumread???? Because I have? You would know if you ACTUALLY READ MY FILTER before throwing any suspicions on me. PROOF IT
JUST FUCKING READ MY FILTER
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On April 30 2020 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fine i am going to side with Koshi on this, at least some townies are voting for the same shit.
##unvote jockmcplop
##vote glowingbear
Why are they town again? Why are you voting me?
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On April 30 2020 23:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:22 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 23:04 Koshi wrote:
If people dont know why it is mafia:
45%) He is not looking for mafia.
30%) It is hard to freally give good reads when you are mafia not bothering to indepth read.
20%) It keeps his options open on all other players
5%) After we lynch GB there is no information in his filter. What do you mean he's not looking for mafia? He has Slam and Jock as his scumleans, pretty obviously. His thought process on Kurumi also feels genuine. With Kurumi calling out Trfel after GB did, ie the mindmeld. Sure, he isn't putting in the super work, but he's also ill. So right now it looks more like you are pushing him at all costs while he can't play optimally. What are your other reads Koshi? This is a fucking pathetic post by you Vivax and I will remeber this post for the rest of the game. Bullshit upon bullshit upon bullshit
Did I trigger you because I don't agree with you on GB when you try to condense your case on him into comedic points that then turn out to be untrue?
Well, then you might be mafia. I'm pretty chill.
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On April 30 2020 21:38 Vivax wrote:
FF laughing at his own mistakes feels townie.
Well played if scum. Revisiting at a later day.
GB not seeing it and calling him scum for shitposting is kinda bad. Makes me feel less good about my Jock vote together with rayn being too comfy with it as well.
Dunno, maybe I should just yolo Shockeyy.
I said FF was shitposting AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT while I was doing my catch up. I agree that FF is most likely town after that post.
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You dont have Slam as a scumread. Merely mentioned him being wishy washy. That is just an observation. Nothing more at all.
Your jock scumread was teiggered by jock doing something super dumb which looked mafia. So you went for the safe jump on jock without thinking twice.
You are not trying to solve this game enough to call you town or to leave you alive.
You make no waves at all. You voted Vivax and it had 0.0000% impact. No explanation no nothing.
You call rayn town and it had 0.000% impact on the game. No explanation no nothing.
Early game you claim to have the same suspicion of tfrel as kurumi, hence the townread, yet when you talk to Tfrel there is absolutely nothing there to support that claim. You backed off from the conversation
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On April 30 2020 23:44 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 23:39 Koshi wrote:On April 30 2020 23:22 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 23:04 Koshi wrote:
If people dont know why it is mafia:
45%) He is not looking for mafia.
30%) It is hard to freally give good reads when you are mafia not bothering to indepth read.
20%) It keeps his options open on all other players
5%) After we lynch GB there is no information in his filter. What do you mean he's not looking for mafia? He has Slam and Jock as his scumleans, pretty obviously. His thought process on Kurumi also feels genuine. With Kurumi calling out Trfel after GB did, ie the mindmeld. Sure, he isn't putting in the super work, but he's also ill. So right now it looks more like you are pushing him at all costs while he can't play optimally. What are your other reads Koshi? This is a fucking pathetic post by you Vivax and I will remeber this post for the rest of the game. Bullshit upon bullshit upon bullshit Did I trigger you because I don't agree with you on GB when you try to condense your case on him into comedic points that then turn out to be untrue? Well, then you might be mafia. I'm pretty chill.
My points are very true.
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GB I vote for you for these reasons. I have been wrong more than I have been right in the past without doubt so Indont expect this to be a 100% done deal at all.
But you have done enough mafia like things to warrant a vote and have not done enough townie things.
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Okay then, let's tone it down a little here, get out of your tunnels, because I need you in mine.
Koshi why do you think that what GB is doing is worse than what Shockey is doing?
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On April 30 2020 23:50 Vivax wrote:
Okay then, let's tone it down a little here, get out of your tunnels, because I need you in mine.
Koshi why do you think that what GB is doing is worse than what Shockey is doing?
Show me where he scumreads slam. If you cant I will not play this game till he is voted out.
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I'd prefer if GB just gave an update regarding slam instead of me doing the legwork for him.
On April 29 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?
Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days? Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today  I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out. So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about? Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post. Maybe a bit of stimulation will help. ##Vote: FF This post is bad and you should feel bad for it.
And explain why he scumread me for this maybe. I didn't pay too much attention to it earlier but I'm kinda curious now.
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On April 30 2020 23:45 Koshi wrote:
You dont have Slam as a scumread. Merely mentioned him being wishy washy. That is just an observation. Nothing more at all.
Your jock scumread was teiggered by jock doing something super dumb which looked mafia. So you went for the safe jump on jock without thinking twice.
You are not trying to solve this game enough to call you town or to leave you alive.
You make no waves at all. You voted Vivax and it had 0.0000% impact. No explanation no nothing.
You call rayn town and it had 0.000% impact on the game. No explanation no nothing.
Early game you claim to have the same suspicion of tfrel as kurumi, hence the townread, yet when you talk to Tfrel there is absolutely nothing there to support that claim. You backed off from the conversation
I started actually reading the thread and I was posting what it appeared to be more significative, Slam is a scum read because of his wishy washiness. He simply isn't making any hard stances and that's why I think he is probably mafia.
Jock's vote wasn't just super dumb, it simply doesn't make sense from a town perspective. And if it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, he is probably mafia.
I tried to play a bit more but I wasn't feeling well, I did my best to catch up with what is written.
I never called rayn town. I don't like how he is not taking hard stances, but I have a gut feeling he is probably town and I don't want to talk about it for reasons. I'd rather have him alive and think about him later.
I thought Trfel could be mafia if he was actually lazy. My intention with pointing that out was to generate discussion. I think he has being posted a fair amount of information and he is playing more like he is town. I'm not lynching Trfel here.
Kurumi posted the same thoughts I had on Trfel and he kept answering rayn in the same way I was thinking, meaning we are coming from the same perspective - hence, town. His wall of texts has he thought process completely displayed on thread, crystal clear. He's not to be discussed day1 after that. Same thing with Vivax. I had the impression on the beginning of the game that he was acting a bit fake, but he is actively contributing with the thread and clearly displaying his thought process.
I didn't read what Grackaroni posted.
Shockeyy had a bad opening on you, could be mafia, but I wouldn't lynch him today because he does look like mafia as town and he isn't been apologetic for not playing (which I believe is a scum meta for him)
Chez is BROWN <3
FF's post about re-reading the thread and flipping his opinion makes him town.
I don't know who I'm forgetting, let me see
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On April 30 2020 23:56 Vivax wrote:I'd prefer if GB just gave an update regarding slam instead of me doing the legwork for him. Show nested quote +On April 29 2020 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:On April 29 2020 05:35 Vivax wrote:On April 29 2020 05:32 Kurumi wrote:On April 29 2020 05:24 Vivax wrote:
You aren't in a self-deprecating mood during lockdown?
Snorting the blow on livestream like in the good ol' days? Just felt like trying to feign confidence to myself to actually become confident is a good course of action today I still have Charlie Sheen (Kurumi) as my default nickname on zoom, it turns out. So, Vivax. Anyone in this game you're worried about? Maybe Fefe, but not for much more other than that he went off lurking after appearing so eager to post. Maybe a bit of stimulation will help. ##Vote: FF This post is bad and you should feel bad for it. And explain why he scumread me for this maybe. I didn't pay too much attention to it earlier but I'm kinda curious now.
I wrote what I think. I don't like pressure votes especially when you state it's a pressure vote - it makes this move empty. But I just wanted to generate discussion on early day 1 and I actually think you're town.
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