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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 05 2020 06:20 GMT
#121
@BloodyC0bbler, care to explain why you are suspicious of Hapahauli? I don't see it.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 05 2020 06:23 GMT
#122
His posts scream posting for sake of posting. Asking questions is great, but only if followed by content. I dont like what ive seen thus far.

Interesting question though ;p
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9840 Posts
April 05 2020 06:25 GMT
#123
I'll be gone for a little while I got up at 4am for some stupid reason so its nap time.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 05 2020 06:34 GMT
#124
@BloodyC0bbler, fair enough, thanks. Interesting take, I admit I didn't see it that way, it makes sense though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
April 05 2020 06:55 GMT
#125
On April 05 2020 15:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 14:43 Vivax wrote:
Shockeyy do you have any scumreads or leads?
Feels like you are just coexisting.

Jock I really really think Trfel is town here. He has a mind of his own if I had to name the reason, instead of just being a void content factory.


Just curious why do you think Trfel is town here? Do you have anything on anybody else yourself?


It's funny you quote a post where I explain why and ask for the why.
There is enough content in the game already to form opinions, but you don't have any reads and want more content.

I don't know if you're just that confused and lazy at reading or just mafia.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
April 05 2020 06:59 GMT
#126
Hey guys!

I am recruiting actors for my movie! Please let me know if you would like to join!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
April 05 2020 07:02 GMT
#127
lol, clueless in The Prism!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 07:54 GMT
#128
Morning. I fell asleep.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 08:00 GMT
#129
On April 05 2020 15:07 Trfel wrote:
Townies usually approach mafia from two perspectives: treat everyone as town until there is reason to suspect otherwise, or treat everyone as suspicious until they show otherwise.

So how do i approach the game normally?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 08:11 GMT
#130
##vote Hapahauli
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
April 05 2020 08:20 GMT
#131
Rayn, Shockeyy is probably scum.
Also where Hapa seemed to intend to go with his posting.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
April 05 2020 08:22 GMT
#132
##vote Jockmcplop

Consequences
lol, clueless in The Prism!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 08:24 GMT
#133
I have just spent time trying to figure out what Shockeyys posting means and i don't really see that. Sure you can be right or then not, but i can't tell if he is mafia or not. I think cobbler is right on Hapa though, i thought about the same thing instantly when i saw Hapa's two first posts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 08:29 GMT
#134
Like.... why is he mafia? I don't understand?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9840 Posts
April 05 2020 08:35 GMT
#135
On April 05 2020 15:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Lean scum
Vivax



I am confused.
RIP Meatloaf <3
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 08:38 GMT
#136
Dear child of mine, this is you dad speaking! Change your clothes to something more appropriate right now! You are currently a disgust to the family.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22300 Posts
April 05 2020 08:40 GMT
#137
On April 05 2020 17:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like.... why is he mafia? I don't understand?


He's just posting along and not poking anywhere. Though I'm doubting the read a little because he just seems super carefree.

Warming up for a Jock vote instead on a reread, tell me what you think?

I think him going after Trfel here feels a bit like he was trying to echo some sentiment (from BC but also me at the start) so it seems kind of opportunistic and he's way too focused on just talking it out with him instead of explaining what makes Trfel scum besides the post where he said he was overdefensive.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 08:43 GMT
#138
On April 05 2020 17:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 17:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like.... why is he mafia? I don't understand?


He's just posting along and not poking anywhere. Though I'm doubting the read a little because he just seems super carefree.

Warming up for a Jock vote instead on a reread, tell me what you think?

I think him going after Trfel here feels a bit like he was trying to echo some sentiment (from BC but also me at the start) so it seems kind of opportunistic and he's way too focused on just talking it out with him instead of explaining what makes Trfel scum besides the post where he said he was overdefensive.

Jock is one of my top town rn. I had the same kind of thought first when i read his response to Trfel's case, i mean like he just picked a case that is wrong and tried to make it look like it's scummy instead of just wrong. (Further explanation; his defense is completely right i just didn't understand why he felt the need to do that in the first place) The post later on though, where he agrees that's reasonable to Trfel to read my posts in that way kinda buried that thought for me as it looked like Jock is really trying to understand Trfel instead of just trying to call him mafia and appealing to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 05 2020 09:06 GMT
#139
I am also going to heavily disagree on you assessment of Hapa, Vivax. Hapa is a player that tends to say what he thinks instead of asking almost or completely meaningless questions. The next thing isn't meta, it's just to show what i mean:

The last game Hapa played here where he was town, his first posts when he arrived to the thread:
+ Show Spoiler +

On November 20 2017 02:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 00:14 darthfoley wrote:
I still want Boson to explain why he's trying to make people choose into his determined lynch options 6 hours into the game


If you think Boson is town, why do you give a shit?

DF post string is pretty scummy. Too much indecisive shade throwing and too much trust in Chez over one super non-alignment indicative post.

#Vote Darthfoley


On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.



He's being very decisive about what he is doing and how to do it. Pressuring people to play and getting reactions for it. Basically just "no bullshit only facts" type of play. Now this is how Hapa plays as town, every time i remember seeing him play it looks like this or somewhat similar. I even talked with him about this during that specific game and after and was laughing how can people ever scumread him in that game (he got lynched D2 and (if i remember correctly) almost at D1 while looking super townie).

This is how Hapa looks like when he plays as scum
+ Show Spoiler +


In post 26, outoforder wrote:
Show nested quote +
In post 22, hapahauli wrote:
In post 16, outoforder wrote:
Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.

Why aren't you asking me about it?

VOTE: outoforder


Because i don't feel like i need to ask you about it. From what i remember playing with you you will make your alignment clear to me before D1 ends even if i didn't prod you in any way. There is also a Rels-specific reason i am not willing to discuss yet.

But while you're at it, care to elaborate on this; This is what i believe to be a fact. You don't tend to participate in RVS / pressure vote shennies at D1 start, especailly towards a player you MUST know to not respond to being "pressured" by giving away his alignment as mafia. I mean like if i was scum i couldn't care less that there are people voting for me over absolutely nothing. You know that aswell so the only conclusions i can come to are that either (1) you actually think i am mafia, or (2) you are mafia.

So why do you think i am mafia? You really couldn't think i could possibly have - at this point of the game - a specific question to a specific player that i would not feel the need to ask you aswell, just because i have played with both of you before? In case there is option (3) aswell, feel free to tell me what that is.

I asked Rels a question, he contests the question because for some dumbass reason it should concern him too, asks me some stupid shit, and not only that he throws a seemingly RVS vote on me. Unfortunately i dropped him as a scumread after lol...



Now in this game i see a lot of similarities to that (to be honest in that game it continued even further, i am just too lazy to quote more). I see here that Hapa's entrance isn't going to take him anywhere, like i can't possibly understand what he is trying to do with what he posted EVEN IF he ACTUALLY thought Shockeyy is mafia and saw something there. In my opinion that is a massive red flag in addition to that fitting his mafia!MO rather than town one.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
April 05 2020 09:09 GMT
#140
On April 05 2020 17:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dear child of mine, this is you dad speaking! Change your clothes to something more appropriate right now! You are currently a disgust to the family.

What do you find appropriate dad? Why do I disgust you?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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