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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 15:39 GMT
#501
Vivax, I don't think either of us are really taking any of this super seriously.

I still think BC auto-dies tomorrow.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 15:43 GMT
#502
On April 08 2020 00:38 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a pretty decisive bus. The QT is fascinating to read.

Under a "sophisticated mafia" theory, it's probably actually Vivax who is the most likely candidate for a bus.

No, Trfel. By play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 15:43 GMT
#503
My bet for mafia is Trfel, if i was not clear enough.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 15:45 GMT
#504
On April 08 2020 00:38 Vivax wrote:
You are brainfucking yourselves too much over overcomplicated theories. That's all there is to it, been there done that.

No I don't fake that Shockeyyy is my top scumread over BC just to stay alive. He is. You guys just have a really hard time seeing that he is mafia. Dnu why.

He really just didn't do anything that had a semblance of having an opinion for 3/4th of D1 but keeps claiming he did and now he's just posting stuff that makes it look like he just skims a bit and then posts stuff out of thin air like it suits him. Plus he was begging me to see something scummy about Hapa at the end of D1. I mean, he tried and shit.

well you kinda townread BC after Hapa gave even better reasons to scunmread him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 15:45 GMT
#505
On April 07 2020 14:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 11:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 07 2020 11:01 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 07 2020 10:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 07 2020 10:44 Hapahauli wrote:
I have read all of your posts Shock.

Ultimately your alignment is a very important piece of that puzzle, and I'm gonna give you a hard time because I want to squeeze those juicy reads out of you.

So three questions for starters so we can begin to consolidate your opinions and feels:
1) Who is in your "do not lynch" bucket?
2) Who is in your "lynch" bucket?
3) Of Bucket #2, who is your top candidate and why? What makes them worse than other candidates?



1) rayn, hap, trfel
2) bloodycobbler, chezinu
3) havent decided, depends on night kill sadly.


What bucket is Vivax in?


It relates to third, I want to town lean him. But then again, one of the last ones to jump on the jock train, and decided to disappear right after the d1 post. Then he also says he doesn't mind killing a town. I'm on the fence.


I don't know what game you are reading. Prove me wrong that I called out Jock first right after my Trfel townread. You are making this about a vote position when everyone who would have been mafia on the Jock wagon had the hammer to lynch Hapa instead. Jock wagon is 200% all town.

Most posts after day end didn't make me feel like I had to chime in and I was relaxing after the kinda tense EoD before going to bed. And right now, BC looks townier to me, while you just look like superscum at this point.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 21:09 Vivax wrote:
On April 05 2020 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say Vivax, if you think i would ever as mafia townread someone for absolutely nothing (i have weird reasons - for other people - to townread people at times as either alignment, but for nothing is not one of them), i dont think you know me that well. This is not even saying i can't be mafia it's just saying that reasoning of yours is absolutely idiotic.


But it wasn't an explicit townread, you just said there were only townies in the thread.

As for the other stuff, not convinced of Hapa, there's just too little in his filter to be able to jump to a conclusion. Needs to post more, until then null. And if you think his filter is alignment indicative already you are bad or mafia imo.

As for Jock, he really didn't do much besides sort of tunneling Trfel. There's this which could be regarded as looking at something else besides Trfel but it's just a whole bunch of nothing and also looks bad.

On April 05 2020 14:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 05 2020 14:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I see something "off" but as of right now not alignment indicative. I just need to see more to swing either way.

Trfel / hap are where my eyes are focused atm


What do you think of Shockeyy's entrance? His tone seems weird to me. I don't know what that means for shockeyy though tbh.


It's like he thinks Shockey should look scummy but is afraid to say he thinks he does.


Btw now I can imagine the why of this.


This seems to be the gist of your suspicions on Shock, combined with the following:

On April 07 2020 15:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, why does BloodyC0bbler look townier now?


He's fluid in his re-evaluation and I like that he picked up on Shockeyyy's 'catch-up' being a tad too slow and disinterested for a game of this size, but especially disinterested. At EoD I was thinking myself of how we used to have D1s with 50-100 pages and then there's him struggling with 20 pages and trying to get peeps to vote Hapa.

Also because Shockeyy is climbing the olymp to mr. superscum much faster by flailing around posting disinformation.


So you think Shock is more likely to flip mafia for three reasons:
1) BC looks townier from his recent posting;
2) Shock is posting "disinformation";
3) Shock is promising to "catch-up" a ton but not really following through in a satisfying manner;

I get that, and understand why it is suspicious. However, I have looked rather extensively at Shock's previous town/mafia games this morning. He's lynchbaity in all of his games, but definitely shows enough competence as mafia (see the QT's I linked) to tell people what they want to hear and give concrete suspicions.

So all in all, I don't really see 2 and 3 as damning.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 15:46 GMT
#506
I think BC is gonna die tomorrow no matter what but i think it is Trfel. No mtter how scummy shockeyy is, i would expect better from Trfel.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 15:48 GMT
#507
I also don't see how BC has been "fluid" at all with his reads.

His reads post tunnels me for sure, but he spends a lot of time in his posts:
a) "hedging" (repeated statements of "I could be wrong"), and;
b) establishing platforms to be suspicious of Chez and Shock.

I'm also not all that impressed by his analysis. He pitched last night's conversation between him and I as a "mutual" attempt to get reads from each other, but only really spent time pleasing me by answering my questions. He pitched very few questions to me, if at all.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 15:49 GMT
#508
Also, I tend not to give credit to players who give analysis when poked. Initiative is a townie trait, not answering questions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 15:52 GMT
#509
tbh i dont care about what BC has said. It looks town to me, except what i quoted from your case Hapa. I dont care if he talked at point X or talked about person A. This is the case, on premises of "the read on shockeyy".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 15:53 GMT
#510
But the real mafia is going to be Trfel.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 15:54 GMT
#511
*shrug*

If we get there, we get there.

Anyways, there's no sense in me tunneling BC more than I have. You know my thoughts.

Off to lunch. Back later.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 16:15 GMT
#512
I am gonna play battlegrounds on HS so dont bother me anymre pls.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2020 16:51 GMT
#513
I think we need to kil Trfel though.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 16:59 GMT
#514
Bahahaha, Chez please, can I get some of those augmented glasses? And a an extra chair for my enemies as well?
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 07 2020 17:00 GMT
#515
SILENCE + Show Spoiler +
PLEASE
I'm adorable.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:00 GMT
#516
I'm around but not for long, gotta get do some work.
Life?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-08 21:28:31
April 07 2020 17:01 GMT
#517
Day 2

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      After the shocking reveal of Andrezza's corruption and death, Michela sat down on the ground, in shock. Lucca couldn't believe what happened. He lost, at the same time, both his mother and his daughter. He looked into his son's eyes, in a mix of hatred and understanding. Although little Lucca Gallo found out the corrupted soul, he had the guts to stab his own sister in her back. What kind of sociopath he could be raising?
      Before he could even recover from that loss, Rafaello, as the lawyer he is, asked for everybody's attention and brought a big case on how the Gallo Ricci family would probably be the origin of corruption, and how Michela's reaction to everything felt off. Michela was probably the other corrupted soul and should be dealt with.
      "What!?", screamed Lucca furiously at his brother. "Are you out of your mind? Why are you trying to kill my family?".
      The brothers rivalry became unbearable. Suspicions were brought everywhere, and they couldn't agree with anything. Rafaello then said: "either your wife dies or you guys kill me". "Fine", said Lucca, "we kill you then".
      Antonio, who was silently watching everything, finally got into the discussion:
      We had enough today. You both are not thinking rationally. Go to sleep and we will solve this tomorrow.
      "How come the kid knew who was corrupted?" - Fiona asked.
      "I've read her diary" - said Lucca Gallo, "and she was not acting like herself at all".
      Fiona opened her mouth to say more, but Antonio interrupted:
      "I think you're talking too much. Go to sleep. We will figure this out tomorrow".
      She silently, but reluctantly, agreed.
      "Can I have Andrezza's room tonight?" the Lucca boy asked his father. Lucca, torn between protecting his son from the rest of his family or protecting his wife from his own child, agreed. "Take what you need to spend the night and lock the door. We don't know what might happen at night".
      He was right. While Lucca Gallo was recording videos of balloon popping, furniture fixing and pandemic safety tips, a loud scream came from the bathroom.
      Mario got out of his bedroom with his Luger to find Antonio's body lying on the ground, lifeless. All his veins were colored in scarlet hue.





Vivax was killed last night. He was + Show Spoiler [Flip] +
Antonio Ricci (Citizen - Vanilla Townie)!+ Show Spoiler [Profile] +
Antonio Ricci, the slob. 40 years and still living with parents, but no job at all. All he does is wake up, turn on his videogame and play until it is dark. But he is always ready to help the family if they need it. Mario is not feeling well? He will make a tea and call the doctor. Francesca is sad? He will talk to her until she feels well. Unfortunately, his unsuccessful life makes the other family members minimize all his efforts, making him less eager to get his life together. Snowballing, it is.


Deadline for Day 2 is Thursday, Apr 09 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 07 2020 17:03 GMT
#518
I just spent the last 30 mins watching Chez videos not realizing the D2 post was coming up soon... and sadly my town lean on vivax was actually correct, I was tin foiling too much
Life?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 17:09 GMT
#519
My plan of holding the town hostage into lynching BC ain't going to work anymore sadly.

##Vote BloodyCobbler
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 07 2020 17:16 GMT
#520
Shockey... the NK happened. Who's mafia?
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