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I don't feel like making a case on Jockmcplop, I don't think it would change anything. That said, I can attempt to explain my actions. 1. My initial townread on Eversince. The reason I posted it was to start conversation. If you look at every town game I've played in years, I've started with an early read of some type to try and get the game going. Yes I know it's a stretch, but it effectively got the game started, so I consider it a success. Look at any if my games where I was present early on and you will see this trend. 2. Voting for Conversion. Again, I wasn't trying to hide my presence in the thread, I posted 10 minutes before the deadline. I wasn't trying to hide my vote either, but I was on a phone and I was rushing to read as much of Conversion's filter as possible. I thought my time was better spent trying to read Conversion's filter and deciding what to do than posting in the thread. Maybe that was wrong but that's what I did. I think since then I've been pretty darn clear on why I did what I did. I haven't done anything suspicious this game except be incredibly wrong, but unfortunately that is lynch-worthy. | ||
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At least Holyflare had a reason for being suspicious of me, I don't believe anyone else has actually shared a reason for preferring lynching me to Jockmcplop. So if I am being lynched today I think I at least deserve to know why. One thing I know is I have provided a lot more original thought and content than Jockmcplop has. His filter may be longer but his content is less substantial. You cannot disagree with the time and effort and care that I have spent trying to figure out this game (as wrong as it may have been). | ||
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I did look at Eversince's filter D2 to re-evaluate and found some suspicious things, I really really regret not paying them more attention But it is a lie to say I did not re-evaluate Eversince D2 because I spent a significant amount of time in her filter and my thoughts are clearly posted. | ||
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1) Like I said, I meant that I wouldn't vote to save Eversince or try to save Eversince, not that I wouldn't try to lynch a different scumread. 2) Sorry you find it lackluster. I messed up, at least I tried. 3) That was why I did it. Shrug 4) After talking about it with Jockmcplop, I thought about it and decided he was town. I just didn't bother to say it in the thread, maybe I should have done so. 5) Would it really make a difference if I made a case on Jockmcplop? I don't feel like it would matter. | ||
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On July 03 2019 03:03 Jockmcplop wrote: This is one thing I don't like on Jockmcplop. He null-read Eversince for so long before eventually townreading her for no reason. Take a look at the first few pages of his filter for his interactions with/read on Eversince, he seems to be keeping his options open with a suspected scumbuddy. Voting all the other wagons, disagreeing with all the cases against her, even agreeing with Eversince's scumreads but still null...I don't think you're mafia ES, not yet anyway. All this stuff coming from rayn, hf and conversion seems kinda weak to be honest, even though there's alot of it. Also raynpelikoneet, what about your point about jockmcplop jumping on you after I started being suspicious of you? I thought that was a really interesting point, how only after I started looking at you Jockmcplop followed and became certain you were mafia and kept pushing me to continue scumreading you. He saw my mistake and used it as an opportunity. | ||
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On July 09 2019 16:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: You want the real answer?Trfel. The most problem i have with your read on es is that you clearly said she has srtong scumgame and then you townread her for weak things (meta and shit) even though you found scummy things in her play. I lied. I didn't think she had a strong scum game. But I wasn't going to call her out or say like "everyone but Eversince has a strong scum game," that's insulting. You can clearly see through the rest of my posts, especially the early ones, that I characterized Eversince's mafia game as forced, dry, formulaic, aka not that great. But I try to be nice and non-insulting. Obviously I was wrong, and her play this game was incredibly improved. But that's why I said what I said, I basically just omitted an exception for Eversince to avoid being insulting. If that makes me mafia I'd do it again anyway. | ||
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Day 1 saved Eversince Day 2 tried to vote for mafia (still thought Eversince was town, stupidly) | ||
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On July 10 2019 02:03 Eywa- wrote: I did reread Eversince's filter, I didn't have time to get to Jockmcplop, and since it was clearly Eversince vs raynpelikoneet I focused on my reads on those two.You were on a wagon with people who had mafia reads on 3 townies... How did you come to the decision that you were not re-reading their filters? | ||
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On July 10 2019 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is true, I still thought Eversince is town though, does it matter? Why can't I think both?that's not right, at least he says it's not. he voted for me because he thought i am mafia. Semantics... | ||
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On July 10 2019 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I was napping and I woke up too late :/I do though have one problem with this, which i originally brought it up. Why didn't you change your vote onto eversince when pandain made it clear that's where he is going to vote? In an unlikely scenario that eywa is mafia and i am town you are losing the game for something you said you wouldn't do. | ||
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On July 10 2019 02:15 Eywa- wrote: You keep talking like I've been scumreading you all game which simply is not true. Look again.And a better point, Trfel was trying to push mafia, yet... His posts all game indicate that he should have been pushing me day 2, not Rayn. | ||
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