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On July 04 2019 22:25 Grackaroni wrote:
your presence was way lower than people like ES/Pandain throughout the rest of the phase.

On July 04 2019 22:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm quite annoyed at you HF.

I don't want to listen to your shit just because I didn't post in the night phase. I gave my best attempt at solving the game yesterday. It's not an easy game to solve because a lot of the players (ES, Pandain, Eywa) are reads that I have that are pure tone reads.

I think I could definitely be wrong about my Eywa read, and maybe Eversince but that would impress me.

On July 04 2019 22:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I think he did his town thing on the post on HF.

On July 04 2019 22:26 Holyflare wrote:


I don't want to cause any offense, it was a little jab at mafia players who play under the radar. I don't think it's insulting to call you out on something that you've said you haven't done (read any of the thread this night phase). Of all the people that have posted they have some kind of reason for thinking what they do and accusing someone of something, excluding you who have not weighed in any thoughts. What am I supposed to conclude from that?

On July 04 2019 22:26 Grackaroni wrote:
In your case if my tone read on ES ends up being bad then I may regret it, but if not then I have a very good reason to suspect you.

On July 04 2019 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

what the fuck?!?!

On July 04 2019 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So your scumread on me is based on that ES is town and i should know better?

On July 04 2019 22:31 Grackaroni wrote:

I looked back through the pages and I stand by that.

I see you posting about the ES points, which I said I didn't like, you briefly say that Pandain is mafia and then you go back to posting about the same ES points. I think that's less than what you usually do where you tend to cycle through a few different suspicions.

To me this is the strongest point. About two and a half hours before the lynch, Holyflare says that he would slightly prefer lynching Grackaroni over Eversince:
On July 04 2019 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to choose between Grack or ES for a lynch I'd probably choose grack tbh. His filter is void of literally aby content. People are town, he guesses I could maybe be mafia. Es is town because of bathtub? Drunk posting that doesn't even look drunk?

Dumb and probably mafia.
Day 1 vote count
Vote Count, Eight Minutes to EoD
Eversince: (5) raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, Conversion, Grackaroni
Grackaroni: (4) Trfel, Pandain, jockmcplop, Eversince

If Holyflare changed his vote to Grackaroni, Grackaroni would be lynched instead of Eversince. Let's assume that Eversince's posts and discussion with Holyflare caused Holyflare to change his mind and prefer lynching Eversince to lynching Grackaroni. But even still, Holyflare very obviously preferred lynching Grackaroni to lynching anyone else. With obvious shenanigans coming (evidence to follow), Holyflare here could either: push hard for an Eversince lynch to try and make sure he gets his preferred lynch, or vote for Grackaroni, a lynch he is happy with, to prevent shenanigans off of his preferred lynch targets.

Posts in the thread in the last eight minutes of Day 1, making it clear that shenanigans were incoming:
On July 04 2019 04:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm strongly for a Conv lynch (if Grack won't get lynched) just because I have town reads on everyone except Grack and him.

Jock is way too active. Rayn is way too active. HF could be scum but seems townie.
Trfel is playing like his town games. Eywa was really townie with his exhcnage with me.

Who else wants to lynch Conv (or grack)
On July 04 2019 04:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Pandain switch to conversion with me
On July 04 2019 04:26 Pandain wrote:
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I switched.

Who else wants to join?
On July 04 2019 04:27 Pandain wrote:
If ES and Trfel switch ES is saved
Grack vote conv
Instead of voting for Grackaroni or persuading people not to switch votes, Holyflare argues with Eversince, accomplishing neither of these goals. He does make one post directed to the thread as a whole:
On July 04 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
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Because I know you tools will do some stupid shit and she won't get lynched.
But if he really wanted to prevent the shenanigans and the Conversion lynch, it would have been much more effective to push for Eversince and talk to the people present, instead of arguing with his extremely strong scumread. Holyflare carries a lot of influence and generally gets his way in mafia games, but here it feels like he just kinda let it happen.

On July 04 2019 22:28 Grackaroni wrote:

I don't think it's bad to suspect someone for being the only person not contributing at night and I don't mind being lynched.

Just you going out and saying that you don't respect me for not posting in the game felt a little personal.

On July 04 2019 22:33 Grackaroni wrote:

Yes. You had a confident read on her in the last game and gave a town read on her when I had a lot of doubts, in this game I have a stronger town read on her from the feel of her filter and you are nitpicking on thing she are saying that I don't think make sense from either alignment to try to lynch her.

On July 04 2019 22:33 Jockmcplop wrote:
I still think the way trfel writes the following point is actually really good:


I understand what you are saying hf when you say that you didn't switch to grack because ES was making more mafia posts at the end of the day, right, making you determined to kill ES? (this makes sense out of context of the timing of events)

Here's the thing... flashback to 15 minutes before deadline and votes are going down left right and center. You know what you're doing and are normally quite insistent that you get your way, but there was no discussion at all about other people's votes at this point. I would expect you to be at least trying to stop the shenanigans or join in so you have some measure of control over what happens..

So were you distracted by arguing with ES, did you not see all the votes go in or were you just not really bothered who got lynched?

Sorry if you already explained this.

On July 04 2019 22:38 Eywa- wrote:
I hope we lose.