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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Coupled that with the fact I had outstanding points on her and she was the leading wagon vs a guy that at the time had done nothing and now that I read back was posting valid points on rayn's read on es why would I not keep my vote on her? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
@Pandain, I still don't get it but honestly I'm so tired I don't feel like talking about it tonight. It's probably not a big deal. I reserve the right to come back to this later if I feel like it though. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Pandain youre misrepping what holyflare said he did right now. Thats not even what he says. It's exactly what he's saying. He's even admitting it in the above post. He was wavering between Grack and ES. He started to say he was going to vote Grack. Then ES came in and said she was probably going to be AFK so won't be able to respond alot. HF then decides to keep his vote on EF. None of this is debatable. You can say he's town still but these facts are not debatable. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
But it clearly was acceptable enough to him to decide to vote ES for saying she would be AFK. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:31 Holyflare wrote: Do you think it matters if the person with the largest filter posts afk excuses? What's your point? My point is clearly that she has some subconscious need to post afk excuses when she doesn't actually need to afk. Like HF just got caught out in a lie. Now he's not debating it anymore. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Then you acknowledge I never actually dropped it because of grack's posts so what you're doing is in fact misrepresenting the "facts" entirely. Very bad look for you pandain. What is even the point behind your read here? That I voted someone over someone else or what? That I didn't vote grack so I'm mafia because? Either I told the truth or in some way I lied but you've never said my motivation for lying at any point so the only option left is truth. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 03 2019 04:35 Eywa- wrote: @Eywa-, who were the other people in your lynch pool at this point, and why?I don't think you're the only good lynch, but I think you're the most likely to get lynched of the narrow pool of acceptable lynches. The difference is negligible, so we can say you're the best lynch... or tied for the slot at least. I take it back, this also bugs me a bit about Eywa-. In 40 minutes they go from voting Eversince because if she's mafia the game is easy to calling Eversince caught scum, then back to voting for Eversince just because she is most likely to be lynched. Hm. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
That's not even my main point. It's clear by the way that you accepted it enough, by the way, because you didn't vote him. But it's not my main point. My main point is that your trigger reason for sticking with ES is that she said she might be AFK. And that's a terrible reason. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
[B]On July 04 2019 17:40 Holyflare wrote: [b]You are misrepresenting things entirely. You're picking and choosing what I say and ignoring the perfectly valid reasons for why I did them just to say "lol because of an afk excuse over grack!" which is not what I did in the slightest. Then you acknowledge I never actually dropped it because of grack's posts so what you're doing is in fact misrepresenting the "facts" entirely. Very bad look for you pandain. What is even the point behind your read here? That I voted someone over someone else or what? That I didn't vote grack so I'm mafia because? Either I told the truth or in some way I lied but you've never said my motivation for lying at any point so the only option left is truth. This is exactly how argued with me about the eywa thing yesterday. You said eywa was behaving differently. You scum read ES partly because you said eywa was acting exactly the same. Then when I point it out its "WELL OBVIOUSLY EYWA IS EXACTLY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR WHEN EYWA IS DIFFERENT YOU MUST BE SCUM TO KEEP GOING ON ABOUT THIS WHEN I'VE EXPLAINED IT". as if its obvious to everyone that you're being completely reasonable when actually you are posting nonsense. I can see why people fall for it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:40 Holyflare wrote: You are misrepresenting things entirely. You're picking and choosing what I say and ignoring the perfectly valid reasons for why I did them just to say "lol because of an afk excuse over grack!" which is not what I did in the slightest. Yes. Tjst's true Pandain. You take some post(s), when hf says why he did it you dont try to weigh the truth value of his explanayion, instead you make your own oversimplified one and say hf is lying. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
You were thinking about voting Grack. Here are the only two meaningful things that changed: Grack: I was lazy so I didn't post. ES: I might be AFK this upcoming hour. Based only on these two statements, you reversed your read and went back to ES. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes. Tjst's true Pandain. You take some post(s), when hf says why he did it you dont try to weigh the truth value of his explanayion, instead you make your own oversimplified one and say hf is lying. Explain how I'm wrong. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:31 Holyflare wrote: Do you think it matters if the person with the largest filter posts afk excuses? What's your point? My point is clearly that she has some subconscious need to post afk excuses when she doesn't actually need to afk. Coupled that with the fact I had outstanding points on her and she was the leading wagon vs a guy that at the time had done nothing and now that I read back was posting valid points on rayn's read on es why would I not keep my vote on her? You either believe this or you call me mafia for it. If you call me mafia for it then you explain WHY it makes me mafia. Do not just pick up on lol afk excuse or omg grack said he was lazy. These are solid points on why I did what I did. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:49 Pandain wrote: I only brought in Grack to show the contrast. You were thinking about voting Grack. Here are the only two meaningful things that changed: Grack: I was lazy so I didn't post. ES: I might be AFK this upcoming hour. Based only on these two statements, you reversed your read and went back to ES. That's true and this bothers me aswell. I cant go more into detail before i am home, but your final conclusion was "hf is scum for this" regardless of if hf's explanation makes sense (or should make sense) or not. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
None of this is debatable. And sure, I agree that you could be town and think ES's afk excuse is bad. But it makes you more suspicious because that's terrible logic. This absolutely terrible logic makes you mafia. As well as you trying to say that "I NEVER SAID THAT" when you clearly did. And you even now admit that you did say that. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 04 2019 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's true and this bothers me aswell. I cant go more into detail before i am home, but your final conclusion was "hf is scum for this" regardless of if hf's explanation makes sense (or should make sense) or not. I mean I think a townie could think this. But I think it's complete trash and makes him way more suspicious. I also don't like HF now trying to justify himself with other reasons why ES was suspicious, when he clearly stated above that the afk post was the reason he switched . | ||
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