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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2019 19:58 GMT
#861
On July 04 2019 04:57 Pandain wrote:
That's just one. There's like six or seven you can find


This is after the fact she got called out. That is not real.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 19:59 GMT
#862
Ok fine HF. Give me some time (I suck with English) But this whole position your taking stinks like a field of manure.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:08 GMT
#863
Pro tip guys: Don't white knight people as town

1) It makes the game impossible to read
2) Scum can just cruise by once they get town read
3) Your reads just aren't good enough
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:09 GMT
#864
On July 02 2019 13:26 Eversince wrote:
I think Grack is just being usual Grack again.

Rayn finding it weird Truffles would read me t!ES is fine for prior reasons. I think they are wrong though.


On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
I think your point about both are fine. Rayn generally will push hard, but not get irate with you, if he thinks your doing something. If he isn't sure he's not going to try to put you on a stick and burn you. The problem with Conversion is that he came in, rehashed a valid point, ignored the rest of the thread and left.

Grack's just a special one. He's got a funny personal attitude. I'm not wanting to lynch him today. He'll pick up and engage like he did last game or then we can lynch. But he's not trying to move us anywhere. Which is trash town play. But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.


On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?


I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.


On July 02 2019 16:15 Eversince wrote:
Assuming Grack is mafia where is he taking that Pand? Just throwing shadows? I'll agree he's been useless but last game was the same. Most I've played with him he's been in-active then picks up and is semi useful.


On July 02 2019 18:02 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?




On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?


I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.


Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything?


Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense to me there because he just mia off. Nothing happens that early. You either try to be active and start the thread or just mia. Which he did. Or you try to get groundwork into looking town (Which he didn't). Showing up and being general useless doesn't make any sense as town or mafia. But Grack is flighty, tends to put a hell of a lot more effort late D1/D2. I don't like him continuing to be useless but I made post on this already. If he's still useless day 2 we can just lynch him but standard Grack play is standard Grack.


On July 02 2019 18:26 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you, ES, think that grack is self-aware of his meta to some extent?


He's been playing since I joined this site so I'm sure yes. Probably uses it to advantage as scum, why I think he's not worth the lynch now but later? Sure.

@Jock I'll go filter that game and brainstorm.


On July 03 2019 00:32 Eversince wrote:
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On July 03 2019 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2019 00:23 Eversince wrote:
Sorry, took a nap! I'm back now though!

who made the above post then? :O


Guilty as charged! I'm just reading up thread and trying to make conclusions. Your Pand point makes sense but why would m!Pand point it out? He did vote me but he didn't push for it. m!Pand here would want to start a wagon? Oh crap, I think that happened though! No one seems to like me !

Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town.


On July 03 2019 00:42 Eversince wrote:
@Rayn

He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1.


On July 03 2019 00:47 Eversince wrote:
.......I'm getting annoyed with answering this! It's all over my filter!

I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options


I'm only 1/3 into my filter but do I need to continue? I've spent bunches of time this game explaining why I read Grack and why..




Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:09 GMT
#865
On July 04 2019 05:08 Eywa- wrote:
Pro tip guys: Don't white knight people as town

1) It makes the game impossible to read
2) Scum can just cruise by once they get town read
3) Your reads just aren't good enough

I'm not trying to be overly negative, I think very few people fit into the category where this becomes an acceptable play... But it clearly didn't work here.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:11 GMT
#866
Is that at me Eywa?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:13 GMT
#867
On July 04 2019 05:11 Eversince wrote:
Is that at me Eywa?

No, you should have been left to defend yourself... You played right. Doesn't mean you're town.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:15 GMT
#868
Care to explain your read on me then? I think it has not changed since the last time you posted.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:15 GMT
#869
I'm more talking about Jock & Pandain jumping in to defend you. Now, especially if you are actually town, our situation is MUCH worse than before. And I don't believe you are town (which is part of the predicament we find ourselves in when you are helped out of a situation by other people rather than by your own argument.

If you're mafia, well, this is a minor set back.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:15 GMT
#870
And thoughts on everyone else while your at it.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:16 GMT
#871
No
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:18 GMT
#872
On July 04 2019 05:15 Eywa- wrote:
I'm more talking about Jock & Pandain jumping in to defend you. Now, especially if you are actually town, our situation is MUCH worse than before. And I don't believe you are town (which is part of the predicament we find ourselves in when you are helped out of a situation by other people rather than by your own argument.

If you're mafia, well, this is a minor set back.


How is any of this really? m!Jock makes no sense defending m!ES. m!Pandain makes no sense.
Either one couldn't move the vote anyway. If anything it means Truffles/ES team.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:19 GMT
#873
On July 04 2019 05:16 Eywa- wrote:
No


Well that's helpful :/!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:21 GMT
#874
Apparently I'm still talking to a brick wall.. Fine with Eywa still. HF reasoning seems real off to me to. I'm get ready for work.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:22 GMT
#875
On July 04 2019 05:18 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 05:15 Eywa- wrote:
I'm more talking about Jock & Pandain jumping in to defend you. Now, especially if you are actually town, our situation is MUCH worse than before. And I don't believe you are town (which is part of the predicament we find ourselves in when you are helped out of a situation by other people rather than by your own argument.

If you're mafia, well, this is a minor set back.


How is any of this really? m!Jock makes no sense defending m!ES. m!Pandain makes no sense.
Either one couldn't move the vote anyway. If anything it means Truffles/ES team.

There's usually a lot of benefit in mafia white knighting... So... I guess refer to the exhibit where I explained that it's bad for town to do it.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 03 2019 20:24 GMT
#876
I don't care about any of that Eywa, I care about you not explaining you reads.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 20:26 GMT
#877
What does white knighting even me.

If I think someone is town, I'm going to defend them.
Saying otherwise is stupid.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 20:26 GMT
#878
What does white knighting even mean*
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:26 GMT
#879
On July 04 2019 05:24 Eversince wrote:
I don't care about any of that Eywa, I care about you not explaining you reads.

Everyone who voted with you thinks I'm town. Quizzing me with that knowledge is not considered scum hunting. I'm probably the one town lock in the game. You should be scum hunting elsewhere.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 20:28 GMT
#880
On July 04 2019 05:26 Pandain wrote:
What does white knighting even me.

If I think someone is town, I'm going to defend them.
Saying otherwise is stupid.

Accuracy is important as well... But more so than that, if you don't defend people who you think are town (which is white knighting), it leaves less space for scum to help each other and take over the game.

It's an objectively bad play for town, due to the implications it has on scum team. If you never do it as town, scum team are more isolated from their partners.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
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