[M][N]MiniFeast I

On June 22 2019 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh wait do i have a cohost

On June 22 2019 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
i can cohost but it will be of the "step in if host has issues" variety. if there's a seperate votecount thread I can do votecounts as well

On June 24 2019 04:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
HolyFlare is an Innocent Child! There's no way they could be guilty!

On June 24 2019 05:33 Shapelog wrote:
I think once Trfel posts more it will be easier to tell. Might go reread the game I played with him a long time back ago. If I recall his posting style is a bit different then the general approach.

@Eversince, Well they say a photo is worth a 1000 words, so he actually has posted the most out of anybody.

On June 24 2019 05:44 Eversince wrote:


Wasn't planning on it. I get you play like this! So is ok . I'll just give you some time!

On June 24 2019 16:18 Jockmcplop wrote:


Yeah but just you wait.
He's going to have SO MUCH CONTENT by the end of the day....

On June 24 2019 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I agree with him that your post about grack after holyflare looked like what he said originally said. Well i wouldn't say you tried to "bury" him but it sure looked like a scumread and that you're just hopping on board with HF. Not so much when you continued talking about it with him, but first for sure.

On June 25 2019 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

well then i guess you will join the pandain force.

On June 25 2019 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because Eversince as mafia seems to be picking on stuff and make it look like she thinks those things make someone mafia -- aka big cases and shit over completely NAI posts. If you're interested go read my Farah's case on her in here. That's pretty much the perfect reasoning why ES was mafia that game and i see none of it here.

I don't think Kelsier defending you makes him anything because he was defending you on stuff that doesn't make you mafia. Even if you're mafia this game that's not why you are mafia. I don't get HF's read too.

On June 25 2019 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then why do you think it makes Kelsier mafia? I mean like why does he do that if he is mafia when he can just shut up and not do it?

On June 25 2019 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

is this what you got from looking into shapelog or where did you leave that?

On June 24 2019 05:14 Shapelog wrote:
If I'm being more serious though, it feels like your trying to hard to be the ideal townie and that scares me. You seem already trying to be buddy buddy by your attitude. Maybe this is how you play. But to me, it's really suspicious you acting this way off the bat.

On June 24 2019 04:44 Shapelog wrote:
I'm cooking so I'm here and there rn.

Eversince this is a no fun zone. What do you think this is? OMGUS.net? I hereby ban all jokes. Hopefully this will help bring to life the game thread and protect my immortal rule.

Speaking of playing together before, I cant remember the last time I played with you kel. Feels honestly forever since I've played.

On June 25 2019 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay once you finish your post can you tell me why you said you will be looking into shapelog next and ended up townreading me instead?

On June 25 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am going to need a clarification on this because i read you read shapelog, then me, you don't know what i am saying but before giving shapelog any read you read me town.

On June 25 2019 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

fair enough. do you understand it now though?

On June 25 2019 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because?

On June 25 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:


This is incredibly prickly. Why would you like an explanation when:

A) you independently town read rayn
B) you agree with his reads too

??

On June 25 2019 07:46 Jockmcplop wrote:
Yo hf you gonna try and convince us to lynch rayn or are you just leaving that hanging there for a bit?

On June 25 2019 07:53 Holyflare wrote:


"very likely 0/2"

One of them being you with 0 explanation based on almost nothing at the start of the game and the other rayn with 0 explanation? what????????

On June 25 2019 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're fairly obviously mafia at this point

Bet it sucks I was confirmed of all people lol.

On June 25 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
What makes you obvtown grack?

On June 25 2019 17:31 Holyflare wrote:
If shapelog is mafia, it's with kelsier.

On June 25 2019 17:31 Holyflare wrote:
If shapelog is mafia, it's with kelsier.

On June 25 2019 11:02 Eversince wrote:
Ok, Trtfel is ok! Shapelog case by Rayn seemed good to me. Holyflare being disconnected is completely annoying but he is confirmed. Grack is usual. Pandain is best lynch 2019. Jock is ok.

I still think Kels feels off. Better but off. Slam has been totes useless. Ewya still is fishy to me.

So Pandain, Shapelog, Ewya. Thought?

On June 24 2019 17:21 Eversince wrote:


Eywa's quicklynch makes no sense to me.. Grack is usual mia, Pandain is usual mia, Rayn knows me far to well. What about everyone else?

We have 1 day left. I will get off and sleep. We need to think about a lynch.

On June 24 2019 10:40 Eywa- wrote:
I'm good with quicklynching Pandain or Eversince

On June 25 2019 17:53 Holyflare wrote:


Who are these people?

On June 25 2019 09:59 Trfel wrote:
Nooo my post got deleted Short version:

I am an idiot for buying a plane ticket for the wrong day and having to pay to move it, but I can play mafia while waiting for the flight.
I liked the stuff on Shapelog.
I don't really think raynpelikoneet is mafia because his play feels too calm to be mafia, though I concede he's better than I am so he could trick me.

On June 25 2019 18:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Grack I can't see a situation where Eywa buses both mafia partners in one of their only 4 posts so far. You really think that's feasible?

On June 25 2019 20:33 Pandain wrote:
Grack is that a real claim.

On June 25 2019 23:42 Pandain wrote:
When literally under no pressure you claimed your blue role.

It not only ruins a lot of your enjoyment of the game (you will always be roleblocked) it also hurts town overall because one of their most powerful blue roles just claimed super early day 1 and is essentially useless.

If you're town, you should be punished for this type of play and policy lynched.
If you're mafia, you should be lynched.

I'm voting you.

On June 25 2019 23:50 Pandain wrote:


Is this to me or to grack

On June 25 2019 18:08 Grackaroni wrote:

Feasible but I could definitely leave Eywa out of it.

Really I'd be more interested in hearing why Eversince thinks Pandain is the best lynch.

On June 26 2019 01:13 Holyflare wrote:


Alienate the confirmed town guy that you can get to vote who you want. Smart play.

On June 26 2019 01:14 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone that thinks there's a doctor and a named townie is sorely misinformed.

On June 26 2019 01:18 Holyflare wrote:
That's why it's veteran parity named

On June 26 2019 01:36 Eywa- wrote:
I could flop onto eversince

On June 26 2019 01:39 Pandain wrote:


100% this. It's possible but unlikely.

And especially when the named townie is HF. Hosts do keep these kinds of things in mind for balance - a host would almost never make all HF, Rayn, and me a mafia team for instance.

On June 26 2019 01:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Despite the fact that he's been nearly universally read as mafia/null, I'd perfectly well accept that no-one wants to vote for Kiesler if someone could point me at a townie post of his.
He's been here, so its not like he hasn't had the opportunity.
I also find it a bit concerning when at least 4 people scumread a guy and no-one votes for them. It means they can't lose.

On June 26 2019 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:


There was a bit. Not actually a huge amount. iirc only 1 person actually scumread shapelog off the back of that case/said it was a good case.

On June 26 2019 01:55 Jockmcplop wrote:


This is not any kind of agreement:

On June 25 2019 02:53 Jockmcplop wrote:


I think I'd like to see more from shapelog, yeah. Definitely suspicious. If everything stayed the same between now and deadline I would vote.

On June 26 2019 02:00 Jockmcplop wrote:
That's not me agreeing with his case. Its also not me saying i wouldn't vote for shapelog, its not even a hard scumread on shapelog, just a suspicion.

I can see your point though.

Interestingly neither shapelog nor KSC have defended themselves because they don't have to because they aren't in danger despite being scumread.
Don't you find that suspicious?

On June 26 2019 02:01 Jockmcplop wrote:


Yeah but other things have changed in the game. KSC stopped posting, for one. Do you only look at one single player before you decide who to vote for or are you being annoying for the sake of it?

On June 25 2019 20:38 Eversince wrote:


I'm sick of formatting. Ewya's randomly tossing out "lynch ES or Pandain" makes no sense. I asked about it and got no answer. What world do we live in where the entire mafia team buses day 1 for no reason though?

I don't agree with HF Rayn points though. I think they are valid. Why I agreed with his case. I think they are worth considering but I don't see it as mafia agenda. More t!Rayn trying to assert himself. I could be wrong on that though ;P. Time will tell!

On June 26 2019 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grack, Trfel and Kelsier. You gyus need to get your shit together. Also please do not vote for eversince. Shes not mafia. Please read the stuff on shapelog. Also please read the stuff eywa said around the time i left. There is no reason she should have a scumread on pandain early on. When asked about it she conveniently left it unanswered and used my post on pandain to jump on me. The reasoninh is plain out retarded. Pretty much nothing she says at that time makes any sense from town pov. Then please read the post i quoted about pandain. There is no reason pandain as town says what he said there because at the time he thinks kelsier is mafia and i am mafia wirh kels, so my post on shape should just be bs. Not any convoluted read as he says. Way to not actually take any stance on a case. I am pretty sure those three are mafia.

I am sorry i couldnt be around more, but i think i played one of my towniest D1's ever. I really tried explaining my reads other than scumreads and diacuss studf with people. I still dont answer hf's stupid questions because the answers are in my filter. At least this game proved to me i am better going back to doibg what i have done past year, aka playing the game for my own amusememt. No use to try talk when people dont even try to listen. Good luck.

On June 26 2019 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
I think that rayn post looks really fake lol

On June 26 2019 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh right. Eywa saying i am mafia because kelsier is town at the time when there is a real chance kelsier is easily the d1 lynch is almost the most retarded thing i have ever heard in a mafia game. Sounds like a mafia game plan.

Grack; you have a minute. Where do i put my vote? Noone outside the four ppl i mentioned i will vote.

On June 26 2019 04:17 Holyflare wrote:


Just quote your post where you scum read shapelog because I don't agree with Rayn's.

On June 25 2019 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:
I'll just start with the easy part.

I feel like this is projecting because Shapelog's own opening reads as overly friendly to me:


This post in particular seems unusual to me.

On June 25 2019 02:16 Grackaroni wrote:

You think he's giving a shallow read of Trfel as in "Trfel said something inaccurate about Eversince's behavior so he's scum mischaracterizing Eversince" to be able to scum read him rather than understanding Trfel's perspective.

Personally I liked Trfel's aggressive posts when not much is happening in thread. I think they're not well informed but not too likely to come from mafia.

I think what bothers me is that when he talks about Trfel's post on me he seems to view it from the point of view as I do, as in "this is an eager townie reading too far into Grack's post. You don't have enough evidence to make this conclusion yet" and then when Trfel makes a similar post against Eversince it's "this is scum mischaracterizing Eversince's behavior." And also Eversince was Shapelog's scum read to begin with.

On June 26 2019 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
It's not a waste of a day, slam is a good lynch.

On June 26 2019 07:09 Eversince wrote:
I', glad Grack ! Choices for tomorrow?

On June 26 2019 07:23 Holyflare wrote:


How can I treat someone I think is mafia seriously if they won't answer my really simple questions? That's literally the game. He would do exactly the same reaction if he was mafia or town, and blow it out of proportion even more so if mafia. I don't think my questions are even inflammatory and he's just taking it that way?? Do you not think my questions are valid?

The only way I can make people lynch rayn is by pointing out bad rayn logic and forcing him to answer it so other people realise he actually is mafia. Which he's cleverly avoiding doing.

On June 26 2019 07:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Grack: Stupid time to claim, don't like his read progression (it seems forced/unnatural).

On June 26 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:


They haven't been changing fluidly though, more like suddenly and often...

On June 26 2019 07:40 Holyflare wrote:


I can't be bothered, he's posted almost nothing noteworthy but that doesn't make him any alignment. Unless you posted something amazing about Shape it's just a coin toss to me. I'm not going back on my phone to check so better get quoting :D

On June 26 2019 07:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
I literally told rayn why I thought his post was wrong and you say that's me liking rayn's post.

On June 26 2019 08:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
The thing about the timings is basically that you did follow thread sentiment straight away with ksc and then shapelog, which is fine, and if i was mafia i would definitely want to make my own case instead of just sheeping rayn's weird logic, but then i pointed it out and then all of a sudden you're scumreading ES out of nowhere with no prior explanation.

On June 26 2019 08:13 Jockmcplop wrote:


Maybe this is true. I'm an irrational beast. But I'm trying grackaroni, I'm trying damn hard to be rational.

I'm happy to drop it and keep scumreading you until something changes my mind. I'm not tunnelled so that could happen especially if you are town.

Honestly there's more going on that just the timing of your reads, the voting thing I mentioned does matter at this point, given that I'm scumreading ksc and you voted on the only other wagon.

On June 26 2019 08:15 Grackaroni wrote:

You've been talking about me/Ksc being opposite alignments I believe.

On June 26 2019 08:17 Eversince wrote:


I think the whole argument is silly.Grack claimed doc. I he doesn't die tonight we lynch him. What mafia is going to let a town run loose with conf doc? This is what I meant before when I said I didn't care about his claim unless it caused chaos. It's a problem that will sort itself out short order.

On June 26 2019 08:40 Eversince wrote:


Who would you save tonight?

On June 26 2019 08:44 Eversince wrote:


Let's make this interesting then. I'm tracker. I can follow to confirm you. HF is already confirmed. Me being able to show who I tracked will confirm me. We can get 3 conf town. and just end this shenanigans.

On June 26 2019 08:53 Eversince wrote:
Only if I track the right person. So who if not to confirm you?

On June 26 2019 06:08 Alakaslam wrote:

Mindmeld eywa a little. Was early at this point though.

On June 26 2019 23:30 Jockmcplop wrote:


Take your shot grack. I'm definitely not mafia, although I would like to see what you think you have.

On June 26 2019 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:

This argument that I'm following thread sentiment is pretty suspicious to me. I've given my own reasons for whatever push I've made and I don't think that's an accurate description of my filter.

My reads have been changing fluidly. I don't believe Jock's have so far.

On June 27 2019 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
Imagine being mafia grack and holding your shot so you can fake claim veteran. Bad play.

On June 27 2019 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
So there's no rber even though ff knows to put one in?

On June 27 2019 05:25 Eversince wrote:
If mafia wasted RB on me great. I only tracker claimed to test your claim. Why claim vet now instead of doctor?

On June 27 2019 05:49 Holyflare wrote:


I'm not saying it makes you mafia. I'm saying it plays to a mafia advantage to not kill anyone other than me because it leaves literally everyone in the game still a target and doesn't effect the amount of mislynches mafia need to win. They can then just rolecop you or whatever.

I think announcing the amount of blues at the start of the game was a huge mistake though.

On June 27 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Let me have my fun. I just want this game to be more fucking interesting than the entire mafia team being the afk shitters.

On June 27 2019 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Just lynch pandain and then shapelog gets modkilled and we lynch koshi tomorrow.

On June 27 2019 06:15 Pandain wrote:
I want to clarify that me lynching rayn because it provided more information was not even the main reason why i voted. The main reason is that I was more certain, based on the ending votes, that Slam was town than I was certain than Rayn was town. The information was just a side thing.

On June 27 2019 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe you're right and if you are it means (at least to me) that Pandain is not mafia. I am not sure but i got the feeling that Kelsier was pretty viable option at the time and Pandain was already on Kelsier. From my memory people showed more interest in lynching Kelsier than Shapelog, right? I dont remember what happened there.

On June 27 2019 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's incorrect. You/Eywa/Koshi/Shape should claim if they are blue. Not jock who almost noone is scumreading. Mafia already knows i am not blue.

On June 27 2019 23:05 Koshi wrote:
Hi Grack. How are you friend?

On June 27 2019 18:50 Holyflare wrote:


And I will be wrong again all the time. You're not up for lynch currently so it doesn't really matter does it?

I never said I was a good town player, I'm just outspoken and piece together the puzzles for people to follow. I'm not solely responsible for your lynch, there are many people in this game and if they follow me it is because they agree at some point with me also.

I'm not even tunneled, I'm quite relaxed and easy going currently. I'm not spamming for your lynch and realise there are probably alternatives that are likely mafia also but to me this is the lynch I will most likely settle on.

Sorry if you're town, you did a bad play to save mafia and if slam was town I would think completely the opposite to how I feel now. Bad luck if you are.

You need to put yourself in my shoes. I've seen a person hard defend mafia to lynch one of their town reads - thay they said was for information but now have changed it after everyone called you out to you town reading slam.

I don't think town reading slam makes any sense. Who was being lynched before slam was? Everyone.. You have me as confirmed town voting slam and 2 people you don't even scum read voting slam (who has posted nothing!) and now you're saying you were convinced slam was town but don't give any reasons why.

On June 27 2019 21:42 Eywa- wrote:
Does anyone find it weird that Eversince burst into extreme activity ever since everyone pretty much started saying he was confirmed town.

Tbh, his vote on Slamkazam seems kind of like a throwaway that accidentally turned into a lynch. There is no reasoning behind it, though he keeps complaining about a lack of reasoning for me, so clearly he's the type of player that would have a case why slam is so much of a better lynch than his day 2 choice right?

On June 28 2019 08:46 Blazinghand wrote:

What did I do?