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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 26 2019 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah lets not make reads based on what people did Confirming people for arbitrarily voting slam who would have been warned and was just a goon when mafia need to make a play against 3 confirmed townies and possibility of saves and cop is quite possibly the dumbest thing to do. I would most likely be bussing 100% of the time if my mafia partner posted one post and disappeared. Pandain has done the most mafia things in the game and has motivation to perk up at deadline if his mafia partner is being lynched compared to being complacent beforehand. He even said he was fine lynching slam if he didn't know who to lynch but then he wanted to kill you because of information instead of the guy he said he was ok killing or convincing people to lynch the guy he was originally voting (who by the way he said would be a good vig shot during d1 but not even convincingly scum read) Then he tried to convince his big mafia read grack to vote his town read rayn for more information over a guy he was fine killing. If he tried to convince me to kill you and you are town what info is he gaining other than the confirmed town killed rayn? I am not sold on trfel being town. The post about not knowing who to vote seemed honest which I liked but it always seems to be a struggle for him to post a read like he has to fabricate it. I don't know, just a gut feeling. Don't write him off just because he voted afk slam. I'll need to have a reread but don't expect much I'll be in handover meetings all day. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On June 26 2019 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: jock you should just believe me when i say grack is not mafia. there is simply no possibility of him being mafia. you also said exactly this last game and grack was mafia soooooooo Quote: "Grack is the most townie guy in the whole thread" | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 26 2019 18:03 Pandain wrote: you also said exactly this last game and grack was mafia soooooooo Quote: "Grack is the most townie guy in the whole thread" yeah i did, he didnt claim doctor under no pressure on D1 though. | ||
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Pandain
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raynpelikoneet
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9853 Posts
On June 26 2019 18:02 Holyflare wrote: I am not sold on trfel being town. The post about not knowing who to vote seemed honest which I liked but it always seems to be a struggle for him to post a read like he has to fabricate it. I don't know, just a gut feeling. Don't write him off just because he voted afk slam. I'll need to have a reread but don't expect much I'll be in handover meetings all day. I just can't see him flat out killing a teammate with two other wagons available. Its not the correct play at all imo. Its vaguely possible but.... no. If trfel and slam are both mafia, then at least one of kels/shapelog isn't and that gives him an out. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On June 26 2019 18:15 Jockmcplop wrote: I just can't see him flat out killing a teammate with two other wagons available. Its not the correct play at all imo. Its vaguely possible but.... no. If trfel and slam are both mafia, then at least one of kels/shapelog isn't and that gives him an out. Also when I pushed him as to why he was voting him he basically said "I don't know." I feel like if he was bussing he would have approached that differently. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 26 2019 18:11 Pandain wrote: Hf you are truly remarkable at finding a narrative and thus ignoring absolutely all possible counter explanations or evidences. “If one man calls you an ass, ignore him. If two men call you an ass, start looking for tracks. If three men call you an ass, put on a harness.” | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 26 2019 18:11 Pandain wrote: Hf you are truly remarkable at finding a narrative and thus ignoring absolutely all possible counter explanations or evidences. It's not particularly a narrative. I've found things in your filter that contradict what you are saying you thought and I'm just not acknowledging the inferior version that doesn't quite make sense that you're talking about after the fact. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On June 26 2019 18:35 Holyflare wrote: It's not particularly a narrative. I've found things in your filter that contradict what you are saying you thought and I'm just not acknowledging the inferior version that doesn't quite make sense that you're talking about after the fact. This sentiment is exactly what you had last time with me. I ended up being town. I would address your points but (1) I already have and (2) I don't think you would even pay attention to them | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9853 Posts
Him being town is pretty important if I'm going to go along with a shapelog vote tomorrow. I can't see any way that trfel isn't town. He had the choice of 3 wagons, if trfel is mafia then at least one of those 3 is town and he can safely vote for them. He hadn't town read either KSC or shapelog at any point during day 1 so wouldn't have been contradicting himself. Both ksc and shapelog were being scumread by alot of players so no-one would raise any eyebrows at trfel voting for either of them. I know you said its a just a gut feeling right now but can you see that the logic of the situation pretty much means he has to be town? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 26 2019 18:41 Jockmcplop wrote: Hf can we talk about trfel please? Him being town is pretty important if I'm going to go along with a shapelog vote tomorrow. I can't see any way that trfel isn't town. He had the choice of 3 wagons, if trfel is mafia then at least one of those 3 is town and he can safely vote for them. He hadn't town read either KSC or shapelog at any point during day 1 so wouldn't have been contradicting himself. Both ksc and shapelog were being scumread by alot of players so no-one would raise any eyebrows at trfel voting for either of them. I know you said its a just a gut feeling right now but can you see that the logic of the situation pretty much means he has to be town? Nothing logical works in mafia, ever. That's a lesson you'll have to learn. I agree it's quite unlikely but I can't shake the gut feeling. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9853 Posts
On June 26 2019 19:02 Holyflare wrote: Nothing logical works in mafia, ever. That's a lesson you'll have to learn. I agree it's quite unlikely but I can't shake the gut feeling. I'm not sure that this is true, more like you can't trust logic over everything else. I'll keep an open mind but continue to presume that trfel is town unless I see something extremely convincing. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Grack and Ewya are null to slightly town. Keslier and Shape are likely mafia. | ||
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