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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 26 2019 14:28 GMT
#901
Jock is mafia.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:29 GMT
#902
So lynch shapelog with us unless he gets got by a vigi!
We're pretty much all working on the assumption that there's mafia between shapelog and kelsier so surely that's a good plan, no?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:30 GMT
#903
On June 26 2019 23:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Jock is mafia.


Take your shot grack. I'm definitely not mafia, although I would like to see what you think you have.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:31 GMT
#904
On June 26 2019 23:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
So lynch shapelog with us unless he gets got by a vigi!
We're pretty much all working on the assumption that there's mafia between shapelog and kelsier so surely that's a good plan, no?

No, that's a terrible plan.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:32 GMT
#905
On June 26 2019 23:31 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 23:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
So lynch shapelog with us unless he gets got by a vigi!
We're pretty much all working on the assumption that there's mafia between shapelog and kelsier so surely that's a good plan, no?

No, that's a terrible plan.


Feel free to explain this, or anything you have said so far, and then it'll be worth taking notice of.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:33 GMT
#906
On June 26 2019 23:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 23:31 Eywa- wrote:
On June 26 2019 23:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
So lynch shapelog with us unless he gets got by a vigi!
We're pretty much all working on the assumption that there's mafia between shapelog and kelsier so surely that's a good plan, no?

No, that's a terrible plan.


Feel free to explain this, or anything you have said so far, and then it'll be worth taking notice of.

You have two players who both think the other is mafia, but share the same PoE. Either they are both town or the PoE is garbo.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:34 GMT
#907
So I'm obvtown, I think we should check Rayn before shooting the PoE.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:35 GMT
#908
On June 26 2019 23:34 Eywa- wrote:
So I'm obvtown, I think we should check Rayn before shooting the PoE.


I disagree. I think the priority should still be trying to lynch mafia, and I'm fairly sure rayn isn't mafia. Unless you can convince me that there's at least some reasonable chance of rayn flipping red I'm not going near a rayn lynch.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:36 GMT
#909
The play here is always to shoot in me/Rayn. And I'm town.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 26 2019 14:36 GMT
#910
On June 26 2019 23:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 23:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Jock is mafia.


Take your shot grack. I'm definitely not mafia, although I would like to see what you think you have.

Goes back to this.
On June 26 2019 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Grack: Stupid time to claim, don't like his read progression (it seems forced/unnatural).

This argument that I'm following thread sentiment is pretty suspicious to me. I've given my own reasons for whatever push I've made and I don't think that's an accurate description of my filter.

My reads have been changing fluidly. I don't believe Jock's have so far.

Your reads are too confident. I don't see enough doubt in any of your play. I don't think that's your town play.

The biggest shift I can see over the night is you upgrading me from scum to *scum lean* (I can really see the doubt creeping into your mind!) and then you assuring HF that Trfel cannot be mafia because of his vote.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:36 GMT
#911
On June 26 2019 23:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 23:34 Eywa- wrote:
So I'm obvtown, I think we should check Rayn before shooting the PoE.


I disagree. I think the priority should still be trying to lynch mafia, and I'm fairly sure rayn isn't mafia. Unless you can convince me that there's at least some reasonable chance of rayn flipping red I'm not going near a rayn lynch.

I disagree, you need to understand why there's a good chance of Rayn flipping mafia
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:38 GMT
#912
Or we flip kelsier, if he flips town we hang Rayn for white knighting.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:39 GMT
#913
Oh wait, the town play here is to white knight someone day 1 so that you can swap them into your PoE day 2. Right.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:39 GMT
#914
Rayn must be town.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:39 GMT
#915
On June 26 2019 23:36 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 23:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 26 2019 23:34 Eywa- wrote:
So I'm obvtown, I think we should check Rayn before shooting the PoE.


I disagree. I think the priority should still be trying to lynch mafia, and I'm fairly sure rayn isn't mafia. Unless you can convince me that there's at least some reasonable chance of rayn flipping red I'm not going near a rayn lynch.

I disagree, you need to understand why there's a good chance of Rayn flipping mafia


So try and convince me. I've seen nothing so far to suggest that he is, hf's case doesn't even remotely convince me. You haven't really explained it to me other than its based off your own PoE list, but I don't really believe in that list, because you've hardly explained anything that you've said so far.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 26 2019 14:40 GMT
#916
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
June 26 2019 14:40 GMT
#917
Rayn and Pandain are both likely town and likely to be pushed by HF tomorrow so HF will probably survive the night.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:43 GMT
#918
On June 26 2019 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 23:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 26 2019 23:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Jock is mafia.


Take your shot grack. I'm definitely not mafia, although I would like to see what you think you have.

Goes back to this.
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Grack: Stupid time to claim, don't like his read progression (it seems forced/unnatural).

This argument that I'm following thread sentiment is pretty suspicious to me. I've given my own reasons for whatever push I've made and I don't think that's an accurate description of my filter.

My reads have been changing fluidly. I don't believe Jock's have so far.

Your reads are too confident. I don't see enough doubt in any of your play. I don't think that's your town play.

The biggest shift I can see over the night is you upgrading me from scum to *scum lean* (I can really see the doubt creeping into your mind!) and then you assuring HF that Trfel cannot be mafia because of his vote.


Yep. In the last game I didn't follow up with my leads, I acted unsure, and all of the mafia that i suspected of being mafia didn't get lynched in part because of that - then we lost the game...

THis is exactly what i posted after that game (bolded for emphasis). I'm making a concerted effort not to make the same mistakes as I did last time which played a part in costing town the game.

On May 30 2019 20:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
I think I need to be more confident in getting people to vote with me when i have a read.
I feel like I should have got artanis on day 2 but I kinda gave up a bit. I could've had conversion day 1 also but didn't really go for it. Covnersion you shut that down pretty nicely well played.

Bugs we should definitely hydra on the next game where mods allow it.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:55 GMT
#919
Just to follow up on that, and you can ask hf about this, someone has tried to meta read in each of my last 4 games. I have only ever played 5 games on here, and each time the meta read has been wrong, and each time I have said at the time that meta reading me probably won't work because I'm deliberately changing my game and I've played too few games to get a good meta.

Each time I'm ignored.

Hopefully this time, given that I've been able to demonstrate exactly when I said I would change my play (before this game started) and exactly how I was going to change my play, and its exactly that change that you hae pointed out - i'm hoping you'll listen.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 26 2019 14:57 GMT
#920
On June 26 2019 23:40 Eywa- wrote:

I'm sorry Eywa but something is lost in the communication here. Explain it to me like I'm a baby cos I really don't get what you're trying to say about rayn and kelsier. I don't think there's enough in that brief interaction for it to be alignment indicative to be honest, certainly not a case that makes it worth forgoing the two best lynches to lynch someone who's probably town.

RIP Meatloaf <3
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