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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
On June 26 2019 09:04 Holyflare wrote: Track rayn or shapelog or pandain. Random between the three of them. Rayn I have a pretty strong townread on. I suppose I can filter again. Shape is bleh. Pandain is bleh. I've explained why lots in my post. It's not random Kels is still bleh to me too. | ||
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Eversince
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Grackaroni
United States9855 Posts
He might swear at you, but he's secretly very cuddly. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I'm going to try and focus on Pandain and Eywa-, I think it would be much easier to read Shapelog and KelsierSC once they come back and post a little more (which hopefully they will?), but those four are the four I am most suspicious of. Can talk for a little, then going to a game night. Sorry you can't sleep Eversince | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
On June 26 2019 09:17 Grackaroni wrote: You can talk with drunk Rayn? He might swear at you, but he's secretly very cuddly. I deal with people telling me about chemical mixtures they know nothing about that could just kill them. I have real think skin. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
I think you should read Shapelog though. Pandain and me had a lengthful conversation. Thoughts on that? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I'm suspicious of Shapelog but not super sold yet, I'm more convinced of Pandain currently by a decent margin. Mostly for the reasons Holyflare gave, though his early Day 1 I wasn't a huge fan of. He's been playing better lately but I don't think that outweighs the suspicion. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
On June 26 2019 09:19 Eversince wrote: I deal with people telling me about chemical mixtures they know nothing about that could just kill them. I have real think thick skin. Damn auto correct. | ||
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Eversince
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 . Look foward to hearing your thoughts! | ||
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Trfel
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On June 26 2019 01:36 Eywa- wrote: This. Really highlights how Eywa- leaves things really open and is willing to throw suspicion around at seemingly everyone. I don't like how he backs down from his townread of Shapelog for seemingly no reason, his townread first sounds much stronger than his later explanation, coincidentally while Shapelog comes under suspicion.I could flop onto eversince That Eywa- waits for Holyflare to vote for raynpelikoneet before voting (I think anyway? on phone, double check this) or at least really starting his push on raynpelikoneet makes me feel like he's hiding behind Holyflare, like he looks great if raynpelikoneet flips mafia, and Holyflare gets the blame if he flips town. Definitely worth looking at D2 imo. | ||
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Trfel
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Sorry. I'd love to hear your thoughts and I'll read them when I get back though! | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
On June 26 2019 09:42 Trfel wrote: Sorry I actually have to leave now, I know, lame discussion Sorry. I'd love to hear your thoughts and I'll read them when I get back though!Still can't get sleep so I'll play instead. I think Grack is town from the dumb claim. He doesn't post that as mafia. Rayn is town because despite HF popular opinion, he is active, does talk about reads, and is trying to figure out the game. Truffles is town because of the same reasons. Same for Jock. Pandain seems bleh to me but I I'm getting that mostly for meta reads that apparently didn't happen. Maby I read a few of his games or something though. His post lack content but I did like our conversation end of day. He wants to do stuff but just doesn't. Kels is just useless. put a noose on this guy tomorrow. Ewya still not answering why she wants me dead highly suspicious. I'm about over her trying to throw me under a bus with no reasoning. Don't want to lynch yet because I think Shape fits better. Shape is bleh for Rayn's reasons. He's been more boring than drying paint since. Where I am at. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
If that happens probably Kels/Slam/Grack team.(unlikely) Though I do need to run the thread again to make sure they'd fit together. | ||
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Eversince
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Eversince
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On June 26 2019 12:48 Eversince wrote: Still can't get sleep so I'll play instead. I think Grack is town from the dumb claim. He doesn't post that as mafia. Rayn is town because despite HF popular opinion, he is active, does talk about reads, and is trying to figure out the game. Truffles is town because of the same reasons. Same for Jock. Pandain seems bleh to me but I I'm getting that mostly for meta reads that apparently didn't happen. Maby I read a few of his games or something though. His post lack content but I did like our conversation end of day. He wants to do stuff but just doesn't. Kels is just useless. put a noose on this guy tomorrow. Ewya still not answering why she wants me dead highly suspicious. I'm about over her trying to throw me under a bus with no reasoning. Don't want to lynch yet because I think Shape fits better. Shape is bleh for Rayn's reasons. He's been more boring than drying paint since. Where I am at. To add to this hate that got railed at Rayn day1 for Shape case derailed the thread like crazy. I need to look into that. | ||
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Eversince
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Holyflare Grackaroni Trfel Eversince Hopefully i dont need to go into why Trfel and Eversince, but i will explain it in case someone demands it. "Ofc they could bus" is not a legit argument because it doesn't make any sense for either of them. That leaves the following players possible for scum: Shapelog pandain Eywa- KelsierSC jockmcplop Let's start with the fact that it's extremely unlike that there is 2 mafia outside of Shapelog + Kelsier duo. I have yet to check how likely it is that they are mafia together or if it makes sense (i think someone said something along the lines that it's possible). At least one of them is pretty much always mafia in this game because any other 2 player duo from eywa/pandain/jock/(me) can always turn the lynch away from Slam onto a townie. So basically at least one of Kelsier and Shapelog has to be mafia. I don't have anything new to say about either of them because they haven't posted since i have laid my reads on them. I am especially waiting for what Kelsier has to say now and i will make my decision on him after he comes back and plays. I think postwise D1 jock looks the best of the rest. Idk, i am still to check what Trfel said about him but i am not gonna do that before sleep. anyways for now i think he is town, technically i guess it's possible he is mafia. Unlikely still. I don't really think Pandain is mafia (and don't fucking come now and say "you're now saying you think pandain is more town than jock while you just said the other way around" -- because yes, that's exactly what i am going to say). Eywa- possibly mafia for what i said earlier. She hasn't explained a single read whole game. I'm just gonna ignore her until some actual explanations come out of her keyboard. And that's DEFINITELY NOT how she played last game ffs.... HF's questions: A) What bullshit was going on in the thread that made him want to make a town case on Kelsier. <-- he said he said it in his filter but I can't see where Apparently i was not clear enough when after your post where you origginally ask about it i made a post that literally says "I can say bullshit = bad cases though, i think the case on Kelsier is a bad case.", i am sorry i don't know how i could have been any more clear on that. B) Why was his later reason for town reading Kelsier based on him being proactive rather than reactive but nothing in the case he made earlier ever alluded to that reasoning? <--- he's already admitted that he didn't write it in his case, ask him why Because the case on Kelsier was not about Kelsier being reactive. The case was about stuff i talked about in my post and the read from his tone was early on and not even that strong. People questioned - or scumread him for his posts and i went over the posts and explained why the latest part (when keelsier has said X and Y before) doesn't make sense to me as him being mafia. I thought i was was very clear about what i was saying yet you turned it into some weird "rayn is calling Kelsier mafia here". My tone read on him early on doesn't convince anyone 100% so what's the point adding it on there? I was simply just responding to what he was being accused of and telling why it doesn't make sense in my eyes. C) Why has he said that he needs to revisit Kelsier when Kelsier has not returned since Rayn made the town case on Kelsier, Kelsier did not vote so is afk, rayn scum reads the people pushing Kelsier? What is this question even? I don't know who is mafia, my mafia reads pushing Kelsier has nothing to do with him being anything at that point. I even told someone, i think ES, that i agree Kelsier had disappeared for certain amount of time and if he doesn't return then i am possibly wrong, because that's how i perceive his scumplay to look like over his townplay. Like, holy fuck, i agree that i can be wrong on something!! Here's what irritates me HF; I have tried my best to read Kelsier during the game and whetever i say about him at any point during the game you call me scum for it. You think that's fun? Why am not allowed to change my opinion on someone (not to even mention in your eyes it's a BETTER opinion)? You still call me mafia for it. I think i have been perfectly reasonable with my posts and opinion on Kelsier and you call me scum for everything i write about him. D) Why does Pandain look townie for eod pushing away from Slam after everything I've said? You're right this is a legit question and i retract from my statement because i didn't have full information at the time i wrote the post. I didn't read your post, i just chacked quickly who got lynched and who voted for what when i had a minute at work. If you want to know what my original thought process was please do ask. As long as these get answered without some hissy fit then you can let him play however he wants. C) Why just because | ||
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Eversince
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