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On May 23 2019 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol, look at bugs' filter and ctrl+f "disappear"
filter page 2:
On May 20 2019 14:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
[..]I was getting a lot of complaints last game for "disappearing" from the thread when I was just asleep or not around, and I'm quite an active player. Right now, the thread seems a bit quiet to me and I have to look at the times and confirm who might be around in order to prevent my mind from going crazy about how X player is not here because of Y scummy reason and not, you know, with the application of Occam's Razor that they're not around just because they can't be.[...]
bolded for extra power.
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On May 20 2019 23:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
man I might actually be right here
ruxxar put up a weak front when responding to me and then just disappeared, while everyone else has just gone on to talk about all sorts of other things.[...]
On May 20 2019 23:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
[,,,]This just leaves ruxxar, who didn't really respond to things, muddied my credibility by saying that I'm preachy and that I sound like his scum game (and then he disappeared shortly after I asked him to point out this similarity with an example) and has been chainsaw defended for hours despite having done nothing defense-worthy.
On May 21 2019 00:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
[,,,]
In this situation what I expect a lot of scum to do is to put up token resistance if suspected and then disappear. That's exactly what ruxxar did.
filter page 5:
On May 21 2019 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
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Rather than answer the question you posed he completely ignored it and responded in a confusing manner, then harped on the confusion making it less likely you’d follow up. Predictably he disappeared before he was forced to commit to anything else.
Credit where credit is due, he’s remarkably slippery.
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On May 21 2019 16:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
rayn has a good chance to be scum this game, especially if ruxxar is scum. His disappearances are too convenient and he’s pushing a disformation lynch by proxy
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On May 21 2019 18:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
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Rayn is just as equally making no sense, pushing disfo which is a bad lynch but not even doing it directly, rather pushing it trough Koshi, and to top it all off conveniently disappeared when the pressure abated only to come back when people started noticing he disappeared
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On May 22 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
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The only issue is that rayn has disappeared since then and seems mostly non-participatory in finding other scum-he just found some weird reasons to continue townreading ruxxar. idk though, he’s probably townier than scum just on the jock basis alone.
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might have missed one or two.
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i also didnt realize he was going on about ruxxar disappearing before ruxxar didnt post in a long while, commented on jock and then didnt post until he had like 4 votes on him
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On May 23 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Also congrats conv
this.
around-ish but pretty tired. tbh dont think me looking at filter is gonna yield anything productive rn.
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oh. just noticed. think ive hit 8k post this game and got a defiler icon now. used to be one of my fav units way back in the day. never really played seriously though. not a very competetive person tbh.
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On May 23 2019 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 05:13 disformation wrote:On May 23 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Also congrats conv this. around-ish but pretty tired. tbh dont think me looking at filter is gonna yield anything productive rn. Where are you at on WBG?
dunno he just kinda disappeared.
j/k
thought he was one of the more sane people and had a decent read progression. though after looking at the disappearance stuff i'm not that sure if the later is that true. like... maybe he should have known better than to use that as metric?
probably should reread his case on VE tbh think i got distracted off that by your reentry readlist.
so i guess he can be similar to you. looked very town d1, but is probably not as town as i thought and i should double check and see what he does d2
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mh think he might have a bit of a lost town vibe? aka "shit i was wrong and have no clue whats going in here" so he is frantically trying to make some sense of the mess this game is?
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On May 23 2019 05:43 disformation wrote:
mh think he might have a bit of a lost town vibe? aka "shit i was wrong and have no clue whats going in here" so he is frantically trying to make some sense of the mess this game is?
yeah esp start of n1 he is all over the place and i dont think in a way that looks scummy
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though i have to agree that this post:
On May 22 2019 23:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
why did people say BC OMGUSed artanis when BC scumread artanis first
or at least I feel like I remember that sentiment was thrown around
ok w/e. Too much thinking.
is fairly wrong imo?
like:
On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
What does everyone think about lynching a lurker or someone that is AFK?
I know people in general on here tend to be against policy lynches like that but in the game I played as mafia the way mafia won was by literally not posting (mostly) for the first few days. Is that the standard mafia meta here?
Because if so, iGrok is a great vote.
Otherwise I wouldn't really vote for him based off what he has posted, just what he hasn't posted. So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn.
into:
On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment? Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight. In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could. Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up. Disinformation? same basic thing. So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me. Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up. So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
clearly a response to art finding bc's filter to be scummy.
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On May 22 2019 18:35 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 18:34 Koshi wrote:
Basically you are scumreading VE for making a correct read but supporting your terrible read after hijacking the thread and being a whiny little bitch pushing Ruxxar lynch relentlessly. yes.
On May 22 2019 18:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
jk I'm trolling I actually have no idea what's going on
yes.
aight. lemme stop spaming the thread to death. sry.
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Went to bed early-ish but upstairs neighbors woke me up multiple times. Headache. -.-
At least the night in game went excellent. 
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mh. easiest can also mean scummiest. but i am not a fan of the wording either.
not entirely sure how ve went from:
On May 22 2019 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 22 2019 23:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 22 2019 23:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not honestly too interested in Artanis atm, Calix and then probably Conversion need to die, then figure out which one of BC/Artanis/iGrok is mafia. Why is Artanis coming at me bro? idk. he can keep coming at you and you just have to take it at this point i think.  i promise you i will reread his filter until eon and give my opinion. Plz do so before morning. You claimed today basically ensuring me that you're leaving me here with only Koshi as backup. I will. I admit i havent paid much attention to him after his case on BC and BC's response, but if what you said is right (about you) then i think it looks scummy because he should know better you get angry and basically try to destroy yourself (or them) against people who call you mafia. If what's right? His reasoning for scumreading me? Bro he's been TOWNREADING ME all game until this night phase. Anyway, its fine. Get back with me when you can. Like I told disfo, I dno't think he's a priority tomrorow, but your thoughts are certainly a priority tonight.
On May 22 2019 23:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop
Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi
Townish:
Raynpelikoneet
Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo
Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes
Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler
AMA. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder. There are a couple of posts after where he rationalizes it, maybe talking himself into it. Maybe it's not as strong as I think, it just seems super convenient to me. Also OMGUS.
On May 22 2019 23:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya okay. I just expected something a bit deeper than "OMG I TRUSTED YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUZORZ" when it seemed obvious to me that I wasn't serious. Felt fake. But I can maybe see him actually thinking I agreed with the case.
to:
On May 23 2019 02:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
iGrok, Calix, Artanis
That's where I'm landing. I'm not available for questions. If I have to I'll try and stay alive, but I'm basically following the thread and voting what I think.
GG Boys.
also dont like that hes like "not available for questions".
cause id like him to explain the art read progression.
but well.
lets see.
filters i want to hit during 1/3 or 2/3 of this phase: calix, grok, art, bc. prolly ve too now.
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fair enough.
my read on you to date is pretty much: dont think she's as scummy as some ppl make her out to be and a lot of her interactions (e.g. hf <> calix, me <> calix i think) seem more town to me.
think hf pointed out 2 posts by you i liked too?
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though if hf and you end up being scum after all im prolly town idiot #1 for that xD
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On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix?
if i can recall it correctly:
the points are mainly:
her very first post was hot garbage
super early hf town read, she shouldnt have
meta (aka is not town calix)
someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up
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On May 23 2019 20:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:11 disformation wrote:On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix? if i can recall it correctly: the points are mainly: her very first post was hot garbage super early hf town read, she shouldnt have meta (aka is not town calix) someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up Who the hell said the last thing? And you yourself said the meta thing was suspicious because Koshi thinks I'm mafia!Calix, WBG thinks I'm town!Calix and I think I'm not like any of my games.
lemme see if i can find it.
i also dont say i agree with the points.
those are the points i can remember being brought up against you
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On May 23 2019 20:13 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 20:12 Calix wrote:On May 23 2019 20:11 disformation wrote:On May 23 2019 20:07 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:Lo and behold! I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that! Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group. Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery. In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything! + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.
Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.
TBH
Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.
Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis
Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.
If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.
I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.
Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix? Let's go through this. He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout. Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k. Vague AF read on moi. Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'. This really did not need to be a wall post. I do not think mafia!Calix draws attention to herself like this if people are moving off her? I can dive I guess. what’s the case against Calix? if i can recall it correctly: the points are mainly: her very first post was hot garbage super early hf town read, she shouldnt have meta (aka is not town calix) someone said a lot of questions/interactions not enough follow up Who the hell said the last thing? And you yourself said the meta thing was suspicious because Koshi thinks I'm mafia!Calix, WBG thinks I'm town!Calix and I think I'm not like any of my games. lemme see if i can find it. i also dont say i agree with the points. those are the points i can remember being brought up against you
ah. think it was this one:
On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*
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not serious, but i really need to post it:
if bc is trying to say his playstyle includes not explaining his reads, can i say my playstyle is to have a lot of explanation but no reads?
more serious:
i think i dig calix posting today a bunch so far, so id like ppl voting her to have a bit more than "well her entry was bad". town can have bad entries/d1 too.
i know you are all town gods and never have bad days, but i had plenty of bad d1's as town.
so and now ill look for an aspirin and try to do some work. filter when i have more time later/this evening.
*disappears*
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desire to lynch conv: about 0%
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On May 23 2019 22:36 Koshi wrote:Why?
cause it feels genuine that he is pissed that not that many ppl cared about his case on me and im pretty sure like 0 ppl cared about his post on you?
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meh not pissed, frustrated rather. you get it.
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