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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 13 2019 22:31 GMT
#47
Will know Wednesday afternoon if I have enough time to play.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 16 2019 16:42 GMT
#74
On May 14 2019 07:31 disformation wrote:
Will know Wednesday afternoon if I have enough time to play.

Sry, took a day more than expected.

/in
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 17 2019 18:56 GMT
#87
On May 17 2019 23:04 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 19:53 Pandain wrote:
On May 17 2019 18:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 16 2019 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I vote for a punishment for artanis for wrongfully modkilling Vivax, punishment is to play this game.

Poll: Artanis' punishment for modkilling Vivax for no reason

Play this game (19)
 
100%

Commit sudoku (0)
 
0%

Play game then sudoku after (0)
 
0%

19 total votes

Your vote: Artanis' punishment for modkilling Vivax for no reason

(Vote): Play this game
(Vote): Commit sudoku
(Vote): Play game then sudoku after


I find this very rude
On May 17 2019 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the crowd has spoken.

* Artanis
Artanis
Artanis
Artanis
Artanis *

No one's saying my name but youuuuuu


Artanis!
Artanis!
Artanis!


Artanis!
Artanis!
Artanis!

Artanis!
Artanis!
Artanis!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 17 2019 23:22 GMT
#95
/confirmation
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 20:48 GMT
#262
fuck. got the times wrong. thought the game was gonna start tonight. lemme catch up
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 21:18 GMT
#265
@Art, VE: can you guys explain the bugs scum read? don't think i'm getting that one.
On May 20 2019 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait... i think jock is mafia

hmm... care to explain?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 21:29 GMT
#269
On May 20 2019 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to prove it right here. Here are all of mine and his (for him i am starting from where he questions me because nothing before matters -- just look at the first post of his) posts until the last one:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ay' i am only a boring town vanilla.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 12:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you my friend VE?


Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 12:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy shit i have seen iGrok joining games before but never posting in them.

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On May 19 2019 19:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 19:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also HF's point on Rayn is NAI as the host had already cleared it up by then. Bugs giving HF easy towncred on that grants him some free scumpointsTM.

I was hoping someone else would be around


Yeh this is exactly what i was getting at. There's no need to be so quick to townread hf. The guy is opaque at the best of times and that wasn't really anything imo.


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On May 19 2019 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What? I copy pasted my first post from last game and changed some words and order lol.

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On May 19 2019 20:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What? I copy pasted my first post from last game and changed some words and order lol.


Why would you bother doing that when it would be quicker just to type 'I'm VT'?

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On May 19 2019 20:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What? I copy pasted my first post from last game and changed some words and order lol.


Why would you bother doing that when it would be quicker just to type 'I'm VT'?


I mean like seriously dude that's one massively inefficient way to type a small introductory message.


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On May 19 2019 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would i bother writing anything?
I lost maybe 10 seconds of my life.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 20:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What? I copy pasted my first post from last game and changed some words and order lol.


Why would you bother doing that when it would be quicker just to type 'I'm VT'?


I mean like seriously dude that's one massively inefficient way to type a small introductory message.

It doesn't really matter either way though. It has no impact on his alignment.

Rayn, what was the plan behind it?


Yeah but nothing's happening so I was trying to get mileage out of the only interesting thing and I just find it a weird way to post.
Its not really scummy** but its more just funny and interesting to think about rayn saying hello in such a convoluted way.

**(not as scummy WBG townreading hf for no reason though)

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On May 19 2019 20:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 19 2019 19:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also HF's point on Rayn is NAI as the host had already cleared it up by then. Bugs giving HF easy towncred on that grants him some free scumpointsTM.

I was hoping someone else would be around


???????????????????

Rayn's post was BEFORE the host cleared it up how the fuck is it NAI? He either got a pm saying he was town vanilla which is absolutely not the case because it's not that or he doesn't know what the fuck the role even was called


What do you think about the weird townread WBG made on you?

Its not like anything you have posted would confirm you as town right?

above post is irrelevant to whole discussion
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On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Rayn, what was the plan behind it?

No plan. I just thought it would be fun.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 21:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
##vote: rayn

I just don't like anything you posted so far.

Lets go over your reasoning for posting that first message.

You thought it would be fun, rather than posting something relevant that makes sense, to post your role but write it wrong by copypasting a previous message and then changing the order of the words?

Is that your idea of fun rayn?

IS THIS HOW YOU HAVE FUN???

May I suggest you try dropping acid or something.

##unvote Calix
##vote Jockmcplop


there is no way the green and red parts are true, he is just agreeing with what basically thread sentiment looks like.

hmmm... isnt the green one saying "rayn's opening post was weird/funny" but he is actually scumreading you for the way you responded to the presure, like he is saying here:
On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.

He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.

Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM?


I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right?

Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now.



at least that is how I am understanding his reasoning.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 21:31 GMT
#272
mh... well _anything_ would imply he didnt like your opening either. while earlier he implied he thought i was more like weird/funny, aka NAI.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 21:39 GMT
#279
On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!

What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above?

dunno if I see the point.
rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now).
though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads.

hmmm... don't think I like that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 22:20 GMT
#329
On May 20 2019 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FYI idiots i wrote my psot like 3 hrs before the game started because:
On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just thought it would be fun.



Why are we idiots? Literally nobody voted you for that reason and we can't mind read that you decided pre-game that it would be hilarious to write a post 1 minute after the game started.

The only one that actually thinks you're mafia for it is iGrok and you're not voting him and apparently he's not even your top 3 votes after Jock, Calix and I?

Then please actually read the thread and tell me why jock and bugs voted for me?

bugs: no fucking idea.
jock imo:
On May 19 2019 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF playing with unwarranted confidence is like, par for the course regardless of his alignment.

He may be right that rayn is mafia, but that he's trying to angleshoot to prove it and back it up with bad meta is.,...boring af.

Does anyone have any suspicions that do NOT have to do with rayn and his role PM?


I dislike rayn's responses so far quite intensely hence the vote. Other than that WBG should come back and nothing else has really happened right?

Artanis is looking townish to me but apparently he's all kinds of good as scum so I'm going to sheep your maybetownread for now.


(note he does not mention your opening post).
Yes the post / sentence you have in read makes it sound it like he is inconsistent in his reasoning. but imo its more like a 50/50 than slam dunk. and imo town is less anal than scum when it comes to being consistent.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 22:23 GMT
#334
On May 20 2019 07:19 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is literally the exact shit I was trying to avoid.

I'm catching up but man alive. I specifically warned against this shit.


Actually you know what?

I am calling bullshit on this.

This seems way too convenient. VE just HAPPENED to warn us against pushing rayn too much, tried diverting to iGrok, claimed rayn would ruin the game if we kept pushing him, etc.

Then rayn just latches onto a bad case against Jock and pushes it with a vastly disproportionate amount of confidence before making a random and completely unwarranted role claim and generally acting like he's lost his shit.

Emphasis on the acting.

I'm more tempted to think VE/ rayn set this up than anything else. There are lots of 'hints' beforehand that make me suspicious as to how authentic they're being.

#shamelesstinfoil

imo VE has mostet townie brownies so far, but I like this post. reminds me i need more vivax in my life (where did he goooo?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 19 2019 22:29 GMT
#345
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 09:39 GMT
#561
On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


What is your read on Jock?

And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky?

flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*.
hmm good point but x” “this is true but y”

is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot?
interested to see if he follows up on the meta though.

jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain.
On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e

highway to the danger zone
right into the danger zone

great now i have an ear worm
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 13:27 GMT
#696
yall a bunch of bloody haters. can't post/link youtube videos while at work.

On May 20 2019 20:31 Conversion wrote:
the fuck is Jock shitting on me for when I was literally on a plane and how are people eating that bullshit up as a scum read

dude literally shared a scum read with me in a post and then still scumreads me

stay classy

in other news disfo still has done nothing and I’m still hearing a lot of white noise on other people so we should lynch disfo. I’m heading to work now so hopefully I can llay at lunch or something

On May 20 2019 20:33 Conversion wrote:
like i think it’s incredibly disingenous to cal me flaky and apologetic and trying to lurk for not doing much when the only other person that pointed disfo out at the point was rayn at that point. also fuck you why would i ever make an irl excuse when i can just literally disappear. also double fuck you because i didnt play the last game i was in because i lost my job

So. Does that make jock scum or pants on head town?

aight. onto jock:
didn't really see the stuff rayn was going on about early in the game.
cobbler asked about a specific post. with a bit of squinting i could see a scum angle in there, but nothing really convincing.

small things:
i seem to dip out of / into his lynch pool a fair, bit so not 100% where his read on me is. sounds a bit opportunistic to me.
another small thing:
On May 20 2019 18:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
YES calix lets convert that conversion into a dead scum.

imo calix is also a scum lean of his. the reaction feels more like town happiness of possibly getting his fav. lunch.

Overall he is touching a lot of options and leaving most of them open. calix scum lean, can vote ruxxor, disfo scum lean, scum conv, igrok good lynch. 5/13 and no big names. Can be scum trying to see what sticks. Not impossible to be hyperactive town though. also contributing more to the game than other people. so while not feeling super hot either way i think he can have the benefit of the doubt for now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 13:32 GMT
#699
On May 20 2019 22:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm starting to think VE is mafia.
He's behaving differently to last game in his posting style. Last game he was blue, but the difference is weird.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh no, you don't cut into rayn's sauna time with this Pandain. Let him answer it post-lynch. A non-sauna'd rayn is an unhappy rayn.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
But really Bugs, I'm telling you, it's not interesting from that point on. Pandain can feasibly be excused for his posting due to the thread rate at the time. The really telling bit is at the beginning of the game when he was town.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO RAYN I DIDN'T

I will though, because I like you.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man rayn fuck is this a MSPaint timeline case?

If it is rather than read it I'd like you to draw it in MSPaint.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man rayn that's painful.

Like all it looks like to me is someone who's not used to playing with you taking umbrage with your playstyle. You didn't like his answers, but he DID answer.

I'm definitely not seeing the mafia that you see. If there's something I'm missing, hit me up with it.

On May 02 2019 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just fucking saying and now you made me angry.


Is it possible you're just mad?

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On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know what

No.

Pandain.

No.

You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.

In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.

##Vote: Pandain



Notice how he directly addresses people by name when he's talking to them, as if he's trying to cooperatively play the game as part of a town team hunting scum.

not a single example of that in this game. Not once.

Is that a mafia tell? Dunno, but its a weird change in posting style.


Also important... In the last game he did the following thing when he was trying to get people lynched:

Show nested quote +
On May 01 2019 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should bring your sword and lynch Jock with us.


Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Join the Pandain Counterwagon of Greatest Glory tm


I haven't seen anything like that either.




i mean...
a) you yourself said that ppl shouldnt meta you on a change of posting style since you mix it up on purpose?
b) you could go to the database and dig out town and mafia games of VE and look for yourself if that could be a meta case?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 13:38 GMT
#701
On May 20 2019 21:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 21:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also really don't mind the Calix entry post as much as some people. Can be hard entering a game that's already started when your actual opinions just follow thread sentiment. Echoing it can be useful for people to know where you stand and it didn't feel like she was trying to pass it off as something she came up with.


Do you think Calix normally plays differently?
That's what koshi is getting at. Are we supposed to expect more?

i think calix meta was to be a fire spewing dragon (and later falling off if mafia). that being said I dont think i have played more than 0-1 games with her so I will not use meta to read her.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 13:40 GMT
#702
On May 20 2019 21:59 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis is falling to the scummy pile

For not being bothered that much by calix entry?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 13:44 GMT
#704
On May 20 2019 22:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 22:32 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 22:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm starting to think VE is mafia.
He's behaving differently to last game in his posting style. Last game he was blue, but the difference is weird.

On May 02 2019 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh no, you don't cut into rayn's sauna time with this Pandain. Let him answer it post-lynch. A non-sauna'd rayn is an unhappy rayn.

On May 03 2019 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
But really Bugs, I'm telling you, it's not interesting from that point on. Pandain can feasibly be excused for his posting due to the thread rate at the time. The really telling bit is at the beginning of the game when he was town.

On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO RAYN I DIDN'T

I will though, because I like you.

On May 03 2019 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man rayn fuck is this a MSPaint timeline case?

If it is rather than read it I'd like you to draw it in MSPaint.

On May 03 2019 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man rayn that's painful.

Like all it looks like to me is someone who's not used to playing with you taking umbrage with your playstyle. You didn't like his answers, but he DID answer.

I'm definitely not seeing the mafia that you see. If there's something I'm missing, hit me up with it.

On May 02 2019 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just fucking saying and now you made me angry.


Is it possible you're just mad?

On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know what

No.

Pandain.

No.

You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.

In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.

##Vote: Pandain



Notice how he directly addresses people by name when he's talking to them, as if he's trying to cooperatively play the game as part of a town team hunting scum.

not a single example of that in this game. Not once.

Is that a mafia tell? Dunno, but its a weird change in posting style.


Also important... In the last game he did the following thing when he was trying to get people lynched:

On May 01 2019 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should bring your sword and lynch Jock with us.


On May 03 2019 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Join the Pandain Counterwagon of Greatest Glory tm


I haven't seen anything like that either.




i mean...
a) you yourself said that ppl shouldnt meta you on a change of posting style since you mix it up on purpose?
b) you could go to the database and dig out town and mafia games of VE and look for yourself if that could be a meta case?


My response to a) is that its probably different getting a meta read on someone who's been here for years compared to trying to do the same with someone who's only ever played 3 games of mafia. Of course I'm going to change up my style, I'm doing it deliberately. I would expect someone who's been here for ages to settle in to a posting style and not make weird small changes like that.

b) I'm going to do exactly this when I have time but I'm at work so I don't have an hour or two to spare to do that rn.

aight, fair enough i guess.
dont like to meta ppl i havent played with a lot or off games i wasnt involved in.

meanwhile:
ve/art:
can you explain the wbg scumread to me like i'm 3, I didnt quite get it while catching up yesterday. if your read changed in the meantime ill also take an update on that
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 13:47 GMT
#707
yeah i guess i can look at bc too
status on him was: not sure if I like his style, but him trying to get reads/reactions based on that jack post felt town to me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 14:23 GMT
#721
something i dont understand in bc's filter:
On May 20 2019 07:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
BC, on Jock’s post, I don’t remember if it occurred after my post on rayn or before, the one that Calix said they liked (which was 220 IIRC) but basically I agreed with Jock’s assessment.

Comparing to last game and based on what Jock said post-game I think his posts here are within the bands of what I’d expect for a reasonable town adjustment. My read there is not strong but I do think what rayn has said about him is completely wrong. I’d suggest reading the first few pages without filter diving and see what conclusion you come up with. I’m particularly curious if you think town-rayn would come to the same conclusion and whether you think the aggression is real.



Didn't see this before i made my last post so dont need to repeat yourself.

On May 20 2019 07:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On May 20 2019 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. idk what i did except for push my scum read. If you see me and HF as the "same" he does that same thing for different reasons, with less confirmation. I am just trying to get my scumread lynched, if that's what you dislike then.... well whatever. I know you read Jock mafia aswell, i just dont understand how you come up with a different opinion on me atm just because how i did it, and not why.


You reason for Jock and Mine are completely different. I have a scum lean but not strong enough that Im happy with.

Bugs has given me currently the best answer to jock if that helps you understand my thought process at all.

tbh i am pretty confused about bc's jock read. he is apparently scum leaning on jocks, but not for the quote he offered up for interpretation. meaning he hasnt explained his jock read at all.
kinda would like for bc to resolve the whole stuff around him reading ppl of their interpretation of that jock quote. otherwise i have no idea what some of his reads are like / are coming from.
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