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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 16:58 GMT
#1641
On May 22 2019 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything.

Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1?


Are you saying my reads should be static and unchanging or what? Each time I call someone mafia I have a precise reason for it and then I see their reaction and what they say and reevaluate. Does that make me mafia?

Think bc might be the only person I haven't called mafia I think.

its actually pretty funny HF


I'd rather call everyone mafia multiple times than none at all :D
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 16:58 GMT
#1642
On May 22 2019 01:56 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok you said
still not caught up, but so far I want rux or disinfo lynched.

but wrote "thoughts" on people who are not disfo or ruxxar, before and after this post. and nothing on disfo & ruxxar.

Frankly nothing that disinfo wrote stands out. I still don't have a single thing written down under "key moments" for them. Could be bored town, could be afk mafia, no idea.

I think bugs made a pretty good case on rux in #1096.

Also, I previously said to review #682 for rux. I meant to type #862, but it was 1am and I misread my own notes. Apologies.

idk if you are getting what i am up to. My question basically is, why are you writing about people who you "dont care about" instead of who you should (your scumreads)?
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 16:59 GMT
#1643
On May 22 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything.

Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1?


Are you saying my reads should be static and unchanging or what? Each time I call someone mafia I have a precise reason for it and then I see their reaction and what they say and reevaluate. Does that make me mafia?

Think bc might be the only person I haven't called mafia I think.

why though? have you read my posts on him? koshi also had one.
On May 22 2019 00:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 00:31 disformation wrote:
why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve.

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On May 21 2019 22:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.

Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.

I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?

Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?

This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.

and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.

Let's not focus on 2 people that are mafia and look for mafia.

Yes I joined the fucking dark side on Ruxxar but I will not lynch him before Calix EVVVVEEERRR


raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 16:59 GMT
#1644
Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D
So good.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 17:00 GMT
#1645
On May 22 2019 01:59 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything.

Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1?


Are you saying my reads should be static and unchanging or what? Each time I call someone mafia I have a precise reason for it and then I see their reaction and what they say and reevaluate. Does that make me mafia?

Think bc might be the only person I haven't called mafia I think.

why though? have you read my posts on him? koshi also had one.
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 00:32 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 00:31 disformation wrote:
why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve.

+
On May 21 2019 22:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.

Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.

I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?

Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?

This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.

and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.

Let's not focus on 2 people that are mafia and look for mafia.

Yes I joined the fucking dark side on Ruxxar but I will not lynch him before Calix EVVVVEEERRR




I just think I prefer my tone read to whatever these posts say. I definitely don't want to write him off as blindly town but it's vastly different from what I've experienced when he is mafia.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:02 GMT
#1646
yeah bc as mafia just comes in with a post that is like "fuck you all you are fucking idiots thread is shit atm this is the guy who you should lynch vote X"
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 17:02 GMT
#1647
On May 22 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions


What was this supposed to mean as well? Looks like you're giving yourself an out if it all goes wrong.

The specific things I think you did that were good were:
VE was aggroing me early, you attacked his reasoning but agreed with his conclusion. that reads as townie to me.

Mostly everything else you've done is flip back and forth on people. Rayne, me, ve, calix, rux, jock, back to ve/rayne. And usually when you switch targets its when there looks like there is some momentum building against that person.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 17:03 GMT
#1648
On May 22 2019 01:56 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok you said
still not caught up, but so far I want rux or disinfo lynched.

but wrote "thoughts" on people who are not disfo or ruxxar, before and after this post. and nothing on disfo & ruxxar.

Frankly nothing that disinfo wrote stands out. I still don't have a single thing written down under "key moments" for them. Could be bored town, could be afk mafia, no idea.

I think bugs made a pretty good case on rux in #1096.

Also, I previously said to review #682 for rux. I meant to type #862, but it was 1am and I misread my own notes. Apologies.

ah.
On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:
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On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from.

From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment?


Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight.

In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could.

Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up.
Disinformation? same basic thing.

So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me.

Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up.

So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.





Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix

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On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation.

I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis.

Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues.
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On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again

rayn voted:
D1 - mafia

bugs voted:
D1 - town
D2 - town
D3 - town
D4 - town

i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real.


gonna vote for mafia again.
##vote Calix


When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first.

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On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.

i like that post by ruxxar.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 21 2019 17:03 GMT
#1649
Did Artanis really just come in here to play Thread Psychologist a hour too late and then dip again?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 21 2019 17:04 GMT
#1650
Did he even vote?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 21 2019 17:05 GMT
#1651
NO *grumblegrumblefuckinglurkersgrumblegrumble*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 21 2019 17:06 GMT
#1652
There's a bunch of things I dislike about Calix and then some I like.
Dislike: Saying Koshi is lying about his read on her but not calling him out, sudden focus on Rayn again after being on Conversion for a while for seemingly no reason when she stated that she doesn't think Koshi/Rayn can be scum together and clearly indicated a strong suspicion of Koshi. The tinfoil she had on Rayn/VE was bad too, and I didn't like how unfocused she was for large parts of the game.

But then she started honing down on Rayn recently. She got the wagon started and I'm not sure if that's a play she would make as mafia. Rayn is notoriously hard to lynch and a significant number of people seemed on board with Conversion. It'd only make sense if she's scum with Conversion to me. It feels like she really believes in that lynch.

The biggest question I have is what changed, Calix? Why are you suddenly so gung-ho on Rayn again after switching your focus halfway through the day?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 17:06 GMT
#1653
On May 22 2019 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:59 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything.

Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1?


Are you saying my reads should be static and unchanging or what? Each time I call someone mafia I have a precise reason for it and then I see their reaction and what they say and reevaluate. Does that make me mafia?

Think bc might be the only person I haven't called mafia I think.

why though? have you read my posts on him? koshi also had one.
On May 22 2019 00:32 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 00:31 disformation wrote:
why no bc? hard to follow reads. fell off super hard after first half of this cycle. currently basically fear voting ve.

+
On May 21 2019 22:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.

Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.

I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?

Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?

This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.

and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.

Let's not focus on 2 people that are mafia and look for mafia.

Yes I joined the fucking dark side on Ruxxar but I will not lynch him before Calix EVVVVEEERRR




I just think I prefer my tone read to whatever these posts say. I definitely don't want to write him off as blindly town but it's vastly different from what I've experienced when he is mafia.

aight. what about the thing ruxxar pointed out as pointed out by igrok?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 21 2019 17:06 GMT
#1654
Oh right, ~1M posts. Carry on.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 21 2019 17:07 GMT
#1655
On May 22 2019 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did Artanis really just come in here to play Thread Psychologist a hour too late and then dip again?

I was at work! I would've been in there playing thread psychologist immediately if I could
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:08 GMT
#1656
I am very easy to lynch nowadays. I dont do anything, only like 120% of what other people do.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 17:08 GMT
#1657
oh fuck. super late again. gonna go. will be back in 2-3h.
would love to vote bc, but dont think that will get anywhere.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 21 2019 17:08 GMT
#1658
Ur good carry on I said.

So Cilax, assuming an answer you like and you think she's town, who's your next target Artanis?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:09 GMT
#1659
maybe disformation is not mafia after all. that's not a terrible case.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 17:09 GMT
#1660
On May 22 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D
So good.

Which?

Also right now top scum read is HF and calix, followed by arty. least confident is BC/bugs,

Key points on Calix:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Rux is maybe not scum because he is admitting to having trouble making reads and calix is also
pushes rayn
-#1247 honestly lots of true points about rayn but ones that I see as NAI because my memory of rayn's meta is palmar jr
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