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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 17:09 GMT
#1661
On May 21 2019 17:54 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 17:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He already pissed me off and normally it stops sooner when he is town. Bit idk. I am noy gonna vote for anyways. Tbh i am not gonna change my vote at all because even if jock is town he is still +1 mafia. Noone as town should ever say shit like that then later on just say oh thats not why i said it you should just trust i meant something i didnt say.


"Even if he's not mafia, he's basically 4th mafia so let's kill him."

Not a legit scum read. Rayn can go back in the scum pile too.

What did Rayn post between your initial scumread on him and this post that made you think he was town?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:10 GMT
#1662
wait it was ruxxars case........
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:11 GMT
#1663
On May 22 2019 02:09 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D
So good.

Which?

Also right now top scum read is HF and calix, followed by arty. least confident is BC/bugs,

Key points on Calix:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Rux is maybe not scum because he is admitting to having trouble making reads and calix is also
pushes rayn
-#1247 honestly lots of true points about rayn but ones that I see as NAI because my memory of rayn's meta is palmar jr

I think you should vote for Calix then because i am quite sure you cannot get HF lynched unless you come up with a case that's better than what you didn't(????) write here.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 17:12 GMT
#1664
On May 22 2019 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ur good carry on I said.

So Cilax, assuming an answer you like and you think she's town, who's your next target Artanis?

I still want to lynch the Cobbler but I doubt that's happening today. Need to go through the lurkers.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 21 2019 17:13 GMT
#1665
On May 22 2019 02:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ur good carry on I said.

So Cilax, assuming an answer you like and you think she's town, who's your next target Artanis?

I still want to lynch the Cobbler but I doubt that's happening today. Need to go through the lurkers.

Ya you're seeing something rayn and I aren't right now - you may get it done later but I don't think it's happening today.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:14 GMT
#1666
What ruxxar wrote on BC is actually okay.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 17:14 GMT
#1667
On May 22 2019 02:02 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions


What was this supposed to mean as well? Looks like you're giving yourself an out if it all goes wrong.

The specific things I think you did that were good were:
VE was aggroing me early, you attacked his reasoning but agreed with his conclusion. that reads as townie to me.

Mostly everything else you've done is flip back and forth on people. Rayne, me, ve, calix, rux, jock, back to ve/rayne. And usually when you switch targets its when there looks like there is some momentum building against that person.


This is so surface level. What reasoning did I use to jump on these people when it was opportune that you did not like or that was not my own original thought?

I've voted 2 people in this game even.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:14 GMT
#1668
On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from.

From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment?


Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight.

In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could.

Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up.
Disinformation? same basic thing.

So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me.

Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up.

So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.





Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation.

I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis.

Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues.
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again

rayn voted:
D1 - mafia

bugs voted:
D1 - town
D2 - town
D3 - town
D4 - town

i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real.


gonna vote for mafia again.
##vote Calix


When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.


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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 17:14 GMT
#1669
On May 22 2019 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait it was ruxxars case........

Fucking LOL - but the tone of disinfo has me leaning town slightly. Only key point is that disinfo sees something reddish in BC.

Wait, who all is anti BC? Artanis, disinfo, ruxxar?
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:16 GMT
#1670
On May 22 2019 02:14 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait it was ruxxars case........

Fucking LOL - but the tone of disinfo has me leaning town slightly. Only key point is that disinfo sees something reddish in BC.

Wait, who all is anti BC? Artanis, disinfo, ruxxar?

yeah i am giving townpoints to disformation too for it.
i think more relevant questionm is who is anti ruxxar?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:17 GMT
#1671
like ruxxar looks fucking 100% town for that post
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 17:19 GMT
#1672
I actually like Conversion's filter and not at all for its contents but for its passion. I feel he believes in his read and do not wish to lynch this man today. He really should calm down though. His tunnel is too strong for me to trust that he's representing Disfo's filter accurately. His comparative filters are more than a year old but just the fact that he's filter diving old games makes me townread him pretty confidently.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:19 GMT
#1673
being completely honest that post looks even more townier if BC is town because i do not see a world where mafia!ruxxar writes that post about town!BC.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 17:22 GMT
#1674
calix will always flip mafia.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 17:22 GMT
#1675
On May 22 2019 02:09 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D
So good.

Which?

Also right now top scum read is HF and calix, followed by arty. least confident is BC/bugs,

Key points on Calix:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Rux is maybe not scum because he is admitting to having trouble making reads and calix is also
pushes rayn
-#1247 honestly lots of true points about rayn but ones that I see as NAI because my memory of rayn's meta is palmar jr


Why are these not points about me???
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 17:22 GMT
#1676
On May 22 2019 02:14 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wait it was ruxxars case........

Fucking LOL - but the tone of disinfo has me leaning town slightly. Only key point is that disinfo sees something reddish in BC.

Wait, who all is anti BC? Artanis, disinfo, ruxxar?

Can we lynch the Cobbler?
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 17:23 GMT
#1677
On May 22 2019 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:02 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions


What was this supposed to mean as well? Looks like you're giving yourself an out if it all goes wrong.

The specific things I think you did that were good were:
VE was aggroing me early, you attacked his reasoning but agreed with his conclusion. that reads as townie to me.

Mostly everything else you've done is flip back and forth on people. Rayne, me, ve, calix, rux, jock, back to ve/rayne. And usually when you switch targets its when there looks like there is some momentum building against that person.


This is so surface level. What reasoning did I use to jump on these people when it was opportune that you did not like or that was not my own original thought?

I've voted 2 people in this game even.

Frankly the logic doesn't matter unless its either really good or really bad logic, and mostly your logic has been just OK. Actions and context are what matter, like steering conversation, who you target/interact with and the context, etc. And yours doesn't look good.

Rayn early when he was pissing people off. then calling rayn passive. then me because I called rayn mafia, after I've said I would be afk for a while and am therefore an easier target. You pivoted to ruxxar as soon as they went after you, you pivoted to Jock when they first started looking demotivated... stuff like this, its not that you changed your mind but the context for when you changed your mind. Really feels like trying to set up momentum... any momentum.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 17:23 GMT
#1678
On May 22 2019 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:09 iGrok wrote:
On May 22 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D
So good.

Which?

Also right now top scum read is HF and calix, followed by arty. least confident is BC/bugs,

Key points on Calix:
Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?
Rux is maybe not scum because he is admitting to having trouble making reads and calix is also
pushes rayn
-#1247 honestly lots of true points about rayn but ones that I see as NAI because my memory of rayn's meta is palmar jr


Why are these not points about me???


Are these even key points? It'sa summary of posts?
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 17:25 GMT
#1679
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 17:25 GMT
#1680
key moments, not key points. slight difference.

But like, what am I supposed to base my reads off of if not your posts, my dude?
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