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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 23:45 GMT
#1999
aight. lets go.
##Unvote
##Vote: ruXxar
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 23:49 GMT
#2002
feeling pretty good about this tbh.

let's see when ill be up and functioning.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 10:54 GMT
#2139
bleh. -.-

On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:12 GMT
#2148
On May 22 2019 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:
bleh. -.-

On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-

Sorry buddy <3 wanting to lynch the Cobbler with me earns you townpoints, but I literally don't remember a single other thing you've really done this game. It kinda feels like you're being a cheerleader. Can you point me to some of your original thoughts this game?

I can. He pointed out ruxxar post on bc that was really good.

and in hindsight i feel like a total ass for voting ruxx after pointing that out.
just looked so damn straight up lurk scum when he didnt post a single thing for 20h hours but was around to comment on jock -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:31 GMT
#2161
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:37 GMT
#2170
On May 22 2019 20:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:
bleh. -.-

On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-

I have been calling a bc/calix lynch since calix posted and bc was calling a ruxxar lynch over calix lynch.

So pls gooby

not exactly my point.
my point is: art is basing two of his scumreads entirely on their reactions/actions to his bc read. and then forgets the only dude voting with him.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:38 GMT
#2175
On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.

It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]

It looks horrible.

oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense:
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.

On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.

On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part

read:
one of calix, ruxxar is town
one of calix, hf is town
one of ruxxar, hf is town
ruxxar has a different alignment from hf
one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum

so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there"


Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part.

But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still.

yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov.
but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways".
but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:46 GMT
#2183
On May 22 2019 20:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:37 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 20:21 Koshi wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:
bleh. -.-

On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-

I have been calling a bc/calix lynch since calix posted and bc was calling a ruxxar lynch over calix lynch.

So pls gooby

not exactly my point.
my point is: art is basing two of his scumreads entirely on their reactions/actions to his bc read. and then forgets the only dude voting with him.

I know what your point was.
But you lied making your point.

true you did point out one of the things on bc earlier than anyone else, but neither did you vote bc, nor did art forget you in his list.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 11:58 GMT
#2189
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 12:16 GMT
#2206
On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix


aight. what do you think about the grok read progression i pointed out? not sure about your progression on grok. think you were like "oh hes town... no wait hes on my list" yesterday.
On May 22 2019 21:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote:
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game


you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that

is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now?

well the big thing koshi and me seem to agree on is bc. that is good and i like that.
otherwise for the most part and we having pretty much disagreeing opinions?
though to be honest, after yesterday's lynch i might be more willing to see a world where koshi is smart town and i am dumb town, so ill prolly take a look at calix and hf again and see if i can see what koshi is seeing.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 12:17 GMT
#2207
On May 22 2019 21:11 Holyflare wrote:
Can everyone please comment on igrok and stop ignoring him. Read his points on me and see if you agree with them. If you think they're all fabricated why has he not updated it when told he's wrong?

aw crap. yeah the progression can look fine, but his starting point is still wrong/weird as hell.
*sighs*
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 13:41 GMT
#2286
absolutely irrelevant reminder that bc's last action has been to omgus at everyone vaguely looking in his direction and gtfoing off.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 13:45 GMT
#2288
okay, fair point. still think he has fallen off massively after the first half of D1, but concede that it might be rl schedule related.
and the thread is fucking huge for n1.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 14:01 GMT
#2296
meh. that is why i hate meta reads on players i have no meta on. zZzzz
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 14:15 GMT
#2299
On May 22 2019 23:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
disformation do you have thoughts on Artanis? Your filter doesn't give me much of a hint.

sure.
didnt have much posts going early game, but nothing screamed scum to me.
came in with the good bc stuff, which i gave him a lot of town points for. didnt mind his other posts as far as i can recall.
now i am a bit miffed and not sure if I wasnt a bit to hasty with the town points. prolly just irritated at him leaving me out.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 14:27 GMT
#2301
On May 22 2019 23:15 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 23:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
disformation do you have thoughts on Artanis? Your filter doesn't give me much of a hint.

sure.
didnt have much posts going early game, but nothing screamed scum to me.
came in with the good bc stuff, which i gave him a lot of town points for. didnt mind his other posts as far as i can recall.
now i am a bit miffed and not sure if I wasnt a bit to hasty with the town points. prolly just irritated at him leaving me out.

seems like he is very limited in time.
comes in. looks for scum. finds scum. cases scum.
looks at the other ppl of interest and builds opinion on them.

looks pretty good.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 14:37 GMT
#2310
On May 22 2019 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 23:15 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 23:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
disformation do you have thoughts on Artanis? Your filter doesn't give me much of a hint.

sure.
didnt have much posts going early game, but nothing screamed scum to me.
came in with the good bc stuff, which i gave him a lot of town points for. didnt mind his other posts as far as i can recall.
now i am a bit miffed and not sure if I wasnt a bit to hasty with the town points. prolly just irritated at him leaving me out.

What do you think about the fact that he goes from townreading me to scumreading me based on me not joining his BC wagon? He claims that it's suspicious because I liked his case, and I'll admit that I did jokingly assent to ONE point in his case, but these were the other posts that Artanis is conveniently leaving out...

Initially in response to Artanis' case

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm okay with BC honestly Artanis, the posturing and strawmen you mentioned in your first point about HF and rayn bidness just kinda feels like the way townBC thinks about the game. Trying to draw a line between the way townHF ended up playing last game and the way he's playing this game. Dunno I'm not seein what you see there.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from.


After his SECOND appearance to come in and focus on BC to exclusion.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 22 2019 02:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 22 2019 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ur good carry on I said.

So Cilax, assuming an answer you like and you think she's town, who's your next target Artanis?

I still want to lynch the Cobbler but I doubt that's happening today. Need to go through the lurkers.

Ya you're seeing something rayn and I aren't right now - you may get it done later but I don't think it's happening today.


Here's where I jokingly say I'd lynch BC, though I guess Artanis didn't think it was so obviuos? It seemed obvious to me.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Here, I'll show how.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler

Just copy and paste that in the vote thread.

I.....


I want to do it just because now it's a thing.

That's bad I know but.....






I wanna do it.

Should we?

Should we lynch BC?


Oh wait I even said it was a joke. XD

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
LAWL I'M JUST KIDDING OF COURSE I'M NOT GONNA DO IT






am I?

God I hope a decent wagon doesn't form or I'll be put to the TEST BRUH

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's not, he's trusting townread bugs and fearing my skill

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
WAIT THAT DOESNT SOUND LIKE BC AT ALL

I guess I can see how this LAST two post interaction could be construed as "agreeing with BC's case" if you squint, but the fact remains that I consistently say I'm not into lynching BC this phase. Consistently. But somehow I'm suspicious for not lynching BC this phase? shawhaaaaaaaaa?

honestly with him leaving me out, the stuff from today feels super rushed.
so not 100% sure if he saw some things and wanted to get them out, or was just like in a hurry to post some sort of follow up. it's def. something i would keep an eye out for.

eh. tbh im not sure how well art knows you, but i wasn't super sure where you were on the seriousness/jokiness scale.
but you are right you never say that you like the case. it is only the joking posts. so a bit of a reach by art here.

mh yeah dunno didnt like him a lot this night phase.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 14:41 GMT
#2312
not sure/dont think i would lynch art for that alone, but he's prolly less town than i thought. if his quality stays this low, the likelyhood of him being scum increases.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 15:27 GMT
#2336
mh kinda poking around a bit at hf's filter but meh.
not sure how to read him these days (not that i ever had a good read on him like ever).

dont think he has been particularly combative or cluttered up the thread with a huge argument, which imo used to be warning signs back in the day.
looking at single posts I don't mind them, but i think that is easy to do for him as either alignment
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 15:27 GMT
#2338
yeah no the igrok thing is absolutely correct
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