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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 12:35 GMT
#1321
also you seem to townread both Koshi and VE so it doesn't seem like it should be any sort of difficult decision for you???
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9880 Posts
May 21 2019 12:37 GMT
#1322
WBG have you thought that maybe he doesn't want to be on one of the big wagons for some reason?
RIP Meatloaf <3
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 12:37 GMT
#1323
On May 21 2019 21:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
So at that point ruxxar should also not have been totally confident that HF and Jock are town? Like why extend this suspicion to every person who called HF & jock town EXCEPT ruxxar?

because none of the players in this game are the same person. different people saying same things don't mean same alignment because they are different people. this is ofc extremely hard to understand for dumb people.


yeah, this would make sense if you actually had a nuanced read here but you don't. Like, you complain constantly about me not explaining reads and when I explain them in a way that you don't like you call me dumb over and over, but when you do it, it's fine and dandy.

Like your reasons this game have literally just been "I've played with this person before and I think this therefore I'm right". I don't recall you doing that kind of thing to the degree I see you doing here in the last game.

Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

And now I'm going to include a sentence that predicts you're going to refuse to do this because you refuse to explain such things to people like me who obviously are too dumb to understand, with the hope that me including this sentence would discourage you from actually dodging like that if you're town.


Don't let rayn's comments about how 'dumb' you are get to you. He's trying to tilt you as part of mafia agenda. It's nothing personal.


I'm well aware of that, I'm just ensuring I cover my bases so that if he does actually use that copout to dodge, it's well documented in the thread and it ensures he gets lynched.

If he's town he should see I'm lending him a hand to pull himself out of this pit he's created for himself. If he's scum he'll obviously do whatever the hell he wants to do
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 12:38 GMT
#1324
On May 21 2019 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
WBG have you thought that maybe he doesn't want to be on one of the big wagons for some reason?


yes, but he's here and he'll respond.

Once he responds, if his response doesn't make sense then we just kill him.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:38 GMT
#1325
On May 21 2019 21:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.


look, I don't understand what you want me to do here. I'm actually advocating for you to stay alive another cycle.

On the basis of the game in general just being an enjoyable experience for me I don't know why I'd want to keep you alive if killing you would make the thread more peaceful.

And as much as you are warranted for calling me bad, you can't deny that I have a fairly good reputation for actually getting people lynched.

Look i have no idea what having good reputation for actually getting people lynched has got to do with anything. I dont care if i am lynched or not, i am posting my opinions and regrdless of if they are from page 2 or 100 it shouldnt matter because scummy things can happen on page 2 or 100. I know you disagree with me but i dont have any problem with it. I am calling you dumb because in the game we were mafia i gave you a strategy before i died, a strategy that should win you the game and you shot the only person who was sided with you and you + him could have convinced the third person to lynch a townie, but never you alone when the other two people you decided to not shoot into were 100% town to each other. You didn't even manage to aknowledge you made a mistake there after the game and in this game you are calling my mafia play something it definitely isn't. Okay back then i let that slide. Maybe you are just rusty when you just came back. Then after last game you shit on me after game that you should not listen to me when i voted for mafia the only day i was alive, and you managed to vote zero mafia in any of the four days. Like.... even as a joke that's hilarious.

You can choose to believe me or not, i don't really want you to do anything. Just don't act like you're above everything because you're not.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 12:39 GMT
#1326
On May 21 2019 21:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:15 Holyflare wrote:
I could have been an asset last game


yeah but you faked a red check on me. and in obs thread you and rayn both essentially said grack was the towniest town who ever towned

Sorry to say but actually you or me dying d2 was probably the best thing that could've happened for town because otherwise we'd end up having continued that fight into d3/d4 (and we certainly weren't going to lynch Koshi or Grack in your stead on d2). And regardless of my ass reads I'm a bit proud I helped with the VE & BC circle and in the end read Pandain & slam properly, and prevented us from lynching Pandain who eventually was one of the deciders to kill grack.

BTW what's your assetness this game? Have you decided who you want to lynch yet?


Yeah, VE I think.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 21 2019 12:40 GMT
#1327
On May 21 2019 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.


look, I don't understand what you want me to do here. I'm actually advocating for you to stay alive another cycle.

On the basis of the game in general just being an enjoyable experience for me I don't know why I'd want to keep you alive if killing you would make the thread more peaceful.

And as much as you are warranted for calling me bad, you can't deny that I have a fairly good reputation for actually getting people lynched.

Look i have no idea what having good reputation for actually getting people lynched has got to do with anything. I dont care if i am lynched or not, i am posting my opinions and regrdless of if they are from page 2 or 100 it shouldnt matter because scummy things can happen on page 2 or 100. I know you disagree with me but i dont have any problem with it. I am calling you dumb because in the game we were mafia i gave you a strategy before i died, a strategy that should win you the game and you shot the only person who was sided with you and you + him could have convinced the third person to lynch a townie, but never you alone when the other two people you decided to not shoot into were 100% town to each other. You didn't even manage to aknowledge you made a mistake there after the game and in this game you are calling my mafia play something it definitely isn't. Okay back then i let that slide. Maybe you are just rusty when you just came back. Then after last game you shit on me after game that you should not listen to me when i voted for mafia the only day i was alive, and you managed to vote zero mafia in any of the four days. Like.... even as a joke that's hilarious.

You can choose to believe me or not, i don't really want you to do anything. Just don't act like you're above everything because you're not.


okay, got it, you're calling me dumb because you hold a grudge against me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 12:41 GMT
#1328
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing is this Calix thing. There is simply no way Calix considers Holyflare town at the point she does. That always makes her mafia, that, and that only. I don't think she can actually consider me mafia aswell at that point but that's more of a minor point. In one of the last games Calix played, if not last, there was a different parity cop check between me and HF and town (Calix included) chose to NOT vote either of us off (lol) in a no-lylo situation. There should never ever be a world where calix should be that confident of her HF read at the point she came to the thread, regardless of what she thinks about my affiliaton.


I was going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

But at any rate this read is total garbage given that you came to the exact opposite conclusion on ruxxar and he posted this as his first post:

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix


So at that point ruxxar should also not have been totally confident that HF and Jock are town? Like why extend this suspicion to every person who called HF & jock town EXCEPT ruxxar?


Ahaha rekt.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:41 GMT
#1329
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:42 GMT
#1330
On May 21 2019 21:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.


look, I don't understand what you want me to do here. I'm actually advocating for you to stay alive another cycle.

On the basis of the game in general just being an enjoyable experience for me I don't know why I'd want to keep you alive if killing you would make the thread more peaceful.

And as much as you are warranted for calling me bad, you can't deny that I have a fairly good reputation for actually getting people lynched.

Look i have no idea what having good reputation for actually getting people lynched has got to do with anything. I dont care if i am lynched or not, i am posting my opinions and regrdless of if they are from page 2 or 100 it shouldnt matter because scummy things can happen on page 2 or 100. I know you disagree with me but i dont have any problem with it. I am calling you dumb because in the game we were mafia i gave you a strategy before i died, a strategy that should win you the game and you shot the only person who was sided with you and you + him could have convinced the third person to lynch a townie, but never you alone when the other two people you decided to not shoot into were 100% town to each other. You didn't even manage to aknowledge you made a mistake there after the game and in this game you are calling my mafia play something it definitely isn't. Okay back then i let that slide. Maybe you are just rusty when you just came back. Then after last game you shit on me after game that you should not listen to me when i voted for mafia the only day i was alive, and you managed to vote zero mafia in any of the four days. Like.... even as a joke that's hilarious.

You can choose to believe me or not, i don't really want you to do anything. Just don't act like you're above everything because you're not.


okay, got it, you're calling me dumb because you hold a grudge against me.

not really. it's more that the same thing continues this game.
table for two on a tv tray
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:43 GMT
#1331
Rayn has literally done nothing but spew irrelevant things into the thread. Repetitive reads that add nothing new, some bullshit about previous games, insults...he's obviously trying to pollute the thread and stir shit up, not clarify anything.

Thread would be ten times better if he hadn't posted at all, that's how much he is pushing mafia agenda.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9880 Posts
May 21 2019 12:43 GMT
#1332
On May 21 2019 21:43 Calix wrote:
Rayn has literally done nothing but spew irrelevant things into the thread. Repetitive reads that add nothing new, some bullshit about previous games, insults...he's obviously trying to pollute the thread and stir shit up, not clarify anything.

Thread would be ten times better if he hadn't posted at all, that's how much he is pushing mafia agenda.


YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOURE STUPID AND DUMB
RIP Meatloaf <3
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 21 2019 12:45 GMT
#1333
OMG BC is voting for me and I jsut bet you he never did open my filter.

That means he's voting for me on YOUR behalf bugs. Not that that's a problem for me. Just thought I'd mention it because while you think I'm scum I might as well act like scum.

I do intend to help this game, I said I'd sheep. I'll help with flip information, it's real easy. Don't lynch me over people who aren't playing that's fucking stupid and retarded. Why are you even considering that shit?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9880 Posts
May 21 2019 12:45 GMT
#1334
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2019 12:46 GMT
#1335
On May 21 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.


Ruxxar has played in the same game where I evaded a red check and got the cop lynched and still won. Calix has arguably played less with me than ruxxar, especially as mafia so would know even less about that.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:46 GMT
#1336
On May 21 2019 21:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
also you seem to townread both Koshi and VE so it doesn't seem like it should be any sort of difficult decision for you???

i do whatever i want to do.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 21 2019 12:47 GMT
#1337
On May 21 2019 21:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.


Ruxxar has played in the same game where I evaded a red check and got the cop lynched and still won. Calix has arguably played less with me than ruxxar, especially as mafia so would know even less about that.

yeah but ruxxar is not calix.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 21 2019 12:47 GMT
#1338
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.

Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:48 GMT
#1339
On May 21 2019 21:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.


Ruxxar has played in the same game where I evaded a red check and got the cop lynched and still won. Calix has arguably played less with me than ruxxar, especially as mafia so would know even less about that.


Eh? I don't recall playing with ruxxar at all.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
May 21 2019 12:48 GMT
#1340
I'M HERE DON'T IGNORE ME AND SAY I'M NOT WHILE ADVOCATING FOR MY LYNCH MOTHERFUCKERS
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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