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On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.
Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded.
If you vote rayn I might spare you
nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies
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On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.
Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded. If you vote rayn I might spare you nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies
Rayn is town and so am I. Try again.
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On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.
Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.
Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.
You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] + I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.
I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.
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On May 21 2019 21:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.
Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded. If you vote rayn I might spare you nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies Rayn is town and so am I. Try again.
wtf lol
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On May 21 2019 21:48 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:46 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?
Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?
I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him. I just did give an example. You were in the very same game. Ruxxar has played in the same game where I evaded a red check and got the cop lynched and still won. Calix has arguably played less with me than ruxxar, especially as mafia so would know even less about that. Eh? I don't recall playing with ruxxar at all.
No, I mean you have played less with me than ruxxar has played with me.
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On May 21 2019 21:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.
Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded. If you vote rayn I might spare you nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies Rayn is town and so am I. Try again.
no thanks, the burden of proof on who is scum is not solely on me.
Do you think Koshi is town btw?
If you think rayn is town at least, and are confused at why I think you might be scum, and your intention is to sheep someone smart this game (clearly not me) then why not just sheep rayn?
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On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not. Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post right here it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is
this post is really good although i don't remember if i said the same thing before.
On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today.
i think there are multiple points here that mafia never says.
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On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.
Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.
Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts. You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version. + Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] + I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else. I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.
Actually that last point is legit. Because Jock and I have voted with each other on EVERY SINGLE TRAIN.
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On May 21 2019 21:51 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.
Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.
Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts. You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version. + Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] + I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else. I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn. Actually that last point is legit. Because Jock and I have voted with each other on EVERY SINGLE TRAIN.
I explained exactly why this is though.
Koshi threw me for a loop with his insistence that calix is scum -- and given that calix and I have the same reads I was gonna try and be sure about that before I voted but I can't figure her out so I've jsut said fuck it and I'll vote for rayn anyway, He has been deliberately shitting up the thread with every post, is unhelpful and generally acting like a moron.
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On May 21 2019 21:50 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.
Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded. If you vote rayn I might spare you nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies Rayn is town and so am I. Try again. no thanks, the burden of proof on who is scum is not solely on me. Do you think Koshi is town btw? If you think rayn is town at least, and are confused at why I think you might be scum, and your intention is to sheep someone smart this game (clearly not me) then why not just sheep rayn?
Yes I think Koshi is obvTown.
I sorta was sheeping voting for Calix for a bit. He was one saying she was maf. Also that doesn't even matter. The lynch is in 14 hours, I'm here and I'm not only reading the game but interacting with who's here. I'm going to be IN The shenannigans, so good fucking luck pushing one over on me.
I may just sheep Rayn, but like my deal with you, just because I townread rayn doesn't mean I necessarily agree with his read of Jock. Jock FEEEEEEEELS town to me, though with HF also saying he's suspicious I'm willing to go back and look at THAT too.
You've got this idea about my play. It's wrong I think. We'll find out.
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On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.
Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.
Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts. You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version. + Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] + I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else. I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.
do you remember Jock's response to me last game about what he thought scumhunting meant? Probably not...here's a refresher:
On May 01 2019 01:38 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 01:36 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision. Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net. First game - mafia - failed to spot it Second game - town - dead first night Third game... you get the picture. I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum. I'm not mafia by the way. not helping yourself much here mate. Before I go down that path of lowering expectations/opinions about things, why don't you talk to me about who you actually think we should kill instead of you? If we can't get that far, brushing aside the newness factor, do you understand BC's stated reason for voting you?What's your strategy for finding scum? Yeah he wants to get people talking. I can't think of anything to say in particular though. My strategy for finding scum at the moment is to see who's acting suspiciously, but there isn't much here to go on to be honest.
On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. LOL
On May 01 2019 12:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC seems town
He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think.
FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all.
VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing.
MZ reads town
Can't read HF
Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless.
I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment.
Seems to me like this isn't really a good indicator for Jock, but could just be me.
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Okay but why do you care so much about what Koshi thinks? I don't get it.
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There is scum in koshi/rayn/VE I'm 100% sure of it.
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On May 21 2019 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not. On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post right here it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is this post is really good although i don't remember if i said the same thing before. Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. i think there are multiple points here that mafia never says.
Speaking of things mafia never say:On May 20 2019 23:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:26 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 23:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway, we're 100% not lynching Calix today. I think we should encourage Calix to get in here and post actual opinions though, because the more that Calix posts the quicker we can come to a conclusion. That's best for everyone.
I don't believe nitpicking is an effective scumhunting tactic because it opens up an opportunity for the target to respond in a fairly emotional manner as either alignment. and this makes reading them harder. Much more effective would be to actually get Calix to commit to some reads and opinions so that we can see what makes sense and what doesn't; the players who are actively trying to figure out the game and don't have completely whacky opinions and progressions will end up being town. Why are you so against lynching me anyway? I cannot recall you giving any reasons to town-read me. Things Only Town Say for 1000, Alex.
This played into my townread of Calix
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On May 21 2019 21:54 Calix wrote:
Okay but why do you care so much about what Koshi thinks? I don't get it.
I have him as either scum or very smart town. He doesn't go with thread sentiment and has strong definite reads. He's worth listening to or lynching imo. I don't get it when WBG says to ignore him.
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na-ah VE, asking people to vote for you doesn't mean they are town.
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On May 21 2019 21:53 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.
Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.
Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts. You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version. + Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] + I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else. I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn. do you remember Jock's response to me last game about what he thought scumhunting meant? Probably not...here's a refresher: Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 01:38 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 01:36 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 01 2019 01:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 01:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Suddenly even happier with my decision. Yeah vote me first. Why not? I already have a low enough of opinion of tl.net. First game - mafia - failed to spot it Second game - town - dead first night Third game... you get the picture. I guess I'm a wildcard since I have no meta for you guys to rely on. If you just vote for me you're justified cos I'm new and it saves having to look for scum. I'm not mafia by the way. not helping yourself much here mate. Before I go down that path of lowering expectations/opinions about things, why don't you talk to me about who you actually think we should kill instead of you? If we can't get that far, brushing aside the newness factor, do you understand BC's stated reason for voting you?What's your strategy for finding scum? Yeah he wants to get people talking. I can't think of anything to say in particular though. My strategy for finding scum at the moment is to see who's acting suspiciously, but there isn't much here to go on to be honest. Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 01 2019 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Oh well nothing more to add really. I think jock is way out of character and the town read(s) are pretty unjustified here. Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town?
Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. don't even think about skipping any of the questions: LOL Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 12:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
BC seems town
He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think.
FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all.
VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing.
MZ reads town
Can't read HF
Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless.
I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment. Seems to me like this isn't really a good indicator for Jock, but could just be me.
I don't find this consistent tbh maybe. He seems to be valuing other people's reads (eg Koshi) to use as an excuse to be unsure of someone he has voted with at every instance.
He just feels a bit off to me.
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On May 21 2019 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
na-ah VE, asking people to vote for you doesn't mean they are town.
It's the way and who she said it too. I agree in general.
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On May 21 2019 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
na-ah VE, asking people to vote for you doesn't mean they are town.
especially when they just gave a townread on you rofl.
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On May 21 2019 21:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.
Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded. If you vote rayn I might spare you nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies Rayn is town and so am I. Try again.
why are you agaisnt lynching me?
should everyone think i am town now?
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