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On May 21 2019 19:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
To VE: You didn't answer my question, who do you actually townread this game and who do you intend to move your vote to? I'm only around for a few hours here because I have to sleep, I'll probably be around for deadline but can't guarantee it since I have morning meetings.
To HF: If you don't think ruxxar is a good lynch then do you have any alternatives to suggest or are you going to continue to play coy? I'm not sure if I really have anything left to say on ruxxar and honestly my isolation here is pretty annoying because I'm constantly doubting myself.
Like what I don't get is that I read Calix, conversion, disfo, Jock etc. as town but none of them are helping and they're just playing in some sort of sandbox off on the side refusing to get out. I'm wondering now if my townread on one or more of them is misplaced I honestly don't have one. I'll decide in my own time. Don't treat me as a town leader this cycle, just as a guy doing his own thing in his own time who will reach a conclusion eventually. Probably. I'll need to hear from ruxxar and make some connections first. Calix post saying ruxxar isn't scummy is my current focus.
The problem is that we're all doing this, hence why the thread is mad stupid chaos.
WBG is trying to lead and get people to lynch with him, but he has a weak target that no-one wants to lynch. It would really help if you would try and confirm yourself as town to the rest of us tbh.
I still think conversion is scum and maybe rayn but I would go for ruxxar if I didn't feel iffy about yourself and BC this game.
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On May 21 2019 19:42 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 19:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would still lynch iGrok maybe, flurry of activity looked okayish but HF right, hardly any conclusions.
Not into Koshi/Rayn, I'm town on both of them. BC I'm townish on. I could maybe lynch Conversion, but I have them at both the same level of 'maybe a little scummy but I don't personally want to vote them' and it's not strong. Who's your strongest townread(s)? This still doesn't really indicate to me who you'd be willing to sheep. Do you think BC is wrong on ruxxar? If you think BC is town, am I also town? If we're both town, why do you not want to sheep us on ruxxar? Yes I think both you and BC are town. Why not sheep you? Because believe it or not, I can think you're town and disagree with your lynch preference! :OOOOOOO If cementing my vote to you is the only way for you to townread me then you're just going to have to lynch me. I've stated why I think ruXxar is town, I'm not going to quotewall it because you're just going to quotewall me back "explaining" why I'm wrong when all you're doing is narrative building. ITS WHAT YOU DO. So no, I disagree with lynching ruXxar, try again.
look, you and I know that a quote wall of two posts is no quote wall. At this point I have little doubt that you have really even considered my points on ruxxar even if you are town because you just demonstrated that you think I townread four players for no reason whatsoever.
At any rate, good luck finding someone to sheep when HF & BC are my strongest townreads, BC and myself are voting ruxxar together and HF basically just admitted he has no idea what is going on.
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And I've read the game Bugs, that shit is so fucking insulting. I've done nothing but read and reread this game. And yes, your reasoning for calling people town are shit. It's based on bad meta that you tried to use last game to find mafia VERY UNSUCCESSFULLY and it's shit. I'm sorry friend, I hate to say it this way, but you're being a fucking ass and you need to stop. I'm not mafia because I disagree with you and you WILL stop insulting me by saying I'm not reading the thread.
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Sounding smart does not require a name.
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Koshi do you think I could confirm calix as scum from her interactions re: myself and rayn??
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On May 21 2019 19:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:35 Calix wrote:Anyway I was writing a rambly-as-fuck reads post because I was tired of constantly doubting myself. In summary, we should lynch into Koshi/ Rayn [don't think both are mafia] or BC/ iGrok and that Conversion/ ruxxar might actually be T/T. But only one of those is viable...lol. If anyone is up for one of these people, please speak up now. [not you WBG, I already know you will disagree with me here  ] Anyhow ##unvote. What has ruxxar posted that makes you town read him?
I started having doubts when disformation and I were talking to him. Some of his posts like "well I'm actually struggling to come up with solid reads" and "I've been here for an hour and don't have anything" are very relatable, lol.
Also I refer to his post against you. The first part where he's responding to WBG looks quite townish to me, like he is actually frustrated with him.
[I don't think he's on the mark with his scum-read of you. But I don't think it's scummy either]
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On May 21 2019 19:40 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
To VE: You didn't answer my question, who do you actually townread this game and who do you intend to move your vote to? I'm only around for a few hours here because I have to sleep, I'll probably be around for deadline but can't guarantee it since I have morning meetings.
To HF: If you don't think ruxxar is a good lynch then do you have any alternatives to suggest or are you going to continue to play coy? I'm not sure if I really have anything left to say on ruxxar and honestly my isolation here is pretty annoying because I'm constantly doubting myself.
Like what I don't get is that I read Calix, conversion, disfo, Jock etc. as town but none of them are helping and they're just playing in some sort of sandbox off on the side refusing to get out. I'm wondering now if my townread on one or more of them is misplaced Can't speak for anyone else but I find your conviction on ruxxar off-putting. Not in a mafia way, just in a "I don't want to be pressured into voting for this guy" kind of way. And it seems like a lot of people are having doubts on ruxxar anyway so I don't think you'll be able to push past those. Hence why you are frustrated, I think.
Kind of feel the same way tbh. Here's a free town read.
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And yet I'm mafia for not wanting to lynch ruXxar.
Fuck this I'm going to work.
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It's actually pretty annoying that I am looking for an alternative and rather than provide a good one people just say nah there's no alternative but you suck and I don't feel like sheeping you because your conviction bothers me when I have none blah blah
I'm not completely convinced that ruxxar is scum, especially because there is so much resistance, and I'm looking for good reasons to townread him but you all give me a handful of things that I point out are not alignment indicative, then throw up your hands after I respond and ask for alternatives rather than actually lay out objective facts. Like Calix you literally said your reason for townreading ruxxar is not rational. How the hell is anyone supposed to even respond to that? It also seems that people agree to some degree that disformation/conversion are not good lynches either. So what does that leave?
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I'm gonna leave now and I'm not coming back for deadline, y'all can do what you want. If we hit scum great, hooray. Since no one has bothered to offer up an alternative, I'm not going to move my vote.
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I literally said I could fesibly lynch both disfor AND Conversion. NOW who's not reading? lel
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This thread is such a clusterfuck.
Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.
I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?
Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?
This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.
and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.
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On May 21 2019 19:42 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:40 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 19:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
To VE: You didn't answer my question, who do you actually townread this game and who do you intend to move your vote to? I'm only around for a few hours here because I have to sleep, I'll probably be around for deadline but can't guarantee it since I have morning meetings.
To HF: If you don't think ruxxar is a good lynch then do you have any alternatives to suggest or are you going to continue to play coy? I'm not sure if I really have anything left to say on ruxxar and honestly my isolation here is pretty annoying because I'm constantly doubting myself.
Like what I don't get is that I read Calix, conversion, disfo, Jock etc. as town but none of them are helping and they're just playing in some sort of sandbox off on the side refusing to get out. I'm wondering now if my townread on one or more of them is misplaced I honestly don't have one. I'll decide in my own time. Don't treat me as a town leader this cycle, just as a guy doing his own thing in his own time who will reach a conclusion eventually. Probably. I'll need to hear from ruxxar and make some connections first. Calix post saying ruxxar isn't scummy is my current focus. The problem is that we're all doing this, hence why the thread is mad stupid chaos. WBG is trying to lead and get people to lynch with him, but he has a weak target that no-one wants to lynch. It would really help if you would try and confirm yourself as town to the rest of us tbh. I still think conversion is scum and maybe rayn but I would go for ruxxar if I didn't feel iffy about yourself and BC this game.
Wait you feel iffy about me?? When did that change?
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We could lynch rayn. I haven't seen any good reasons to town-read him and a lot of us have him as null/ scum, yes?
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On May 21 2019 19:59 Calix wrote:
We could lynch rayn. I haven't seen any good reasons to town-read him and a lot of us have him as null/ scum, yes?
Also D1 claim is so bad. But its rayn does it mean anything?
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On May 21 2019 20:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:59 Calix wrote:
We could lynch rayn. I haven't seen any good reasons to town-read him and a lot of us have him as null/ scum, yes? Also D1 claim is so bad. But its rayn does it mean anything?
I refer more to his disproportionate level of confidence in his bad scum-reads.
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OH SHIT I MADE A MISTAKE AGAIN MUST BE MAFIA!!!!!!
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On May 21 2019 19:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:40 Calix wrote:On May 21 2019 19:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
To VE: You didn't answer my question, who do you actually townread this game and who do you intend to move your vote to? I'm only around for a few hours here because I have to sleep, I'll probably be around for deadline but can't guarantee it since I have morning meetings.
To HF: If you don't think ruxxar is a good lynch then do you have any alternatives to suggest or are you going to continue to play coy? I'm not sure if I really have anything left to say on ruxxar and honestly my isolation here is pretty annoying because I'm constantly doubting myself.
Like what I don't get is that I read Calix, conversion, disfo, Jock etc. as town but none of them are helping and they're just playing in some sort of sandbox off on the side refusing to get out. I'm wondering now if my townread on one or more of them is misplaced Can't speak for anyone else but I find your conviction on ruxxar off-putting. Not in a mafia way, just in a "I don't want to be pressured into voting for this guy" kind of way. And it seems like a lot of people are having doubts on ruxxar anyway so I don't think you'll be able to push past those. Hence why you are frustrated, I think. Kind of feel the same way tbh. Here's a free town read.
i feel like wbg is like one of the few sane persons (if not the only one) in the thread and i don't think his stuff on ruxxar is horrible (like koshi does apparently). though i agree that it is not nearly as strong as he think it is. think one of the posts of wbg asking me to vote ruxxar felt a bit like scum!pandain getting me to vote for town!sent in the themed game.
dont think wbg is scum, but the ruxxar vote seems off.
maybe im overthinking shit and I should just sheep wbg for at least making sense unless a ton of other ppl
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For real though, going to work.
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On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.
Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.
I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?
Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?
This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.
and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.
I have been trying to find consensus for over 24 hours and am about ready to give up.
People are being inordinately difficult for seemingly no good reason and it seems like mafia are also blackballing a lot of my posts, because I think the amount of shade (especially the indirect shade) I'm getting can't entirely be from townies frustrated with how I'm playing. A lot of it doesn't seem natural or warranted given the actual content of my posts.
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On May 21 2019 20:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 19:59 Calix wrote:
We could lynch rayn. I haven't seen any good reasons to town-read him and a lot of us have him as null/ scum, yes? Also D1 claim is so bad. But its rayn does it mean anything?
tbh i also once had a game where i kinda lost my shit as cop n1 and claimed. super horrible. but either way the rayn stuff is prolly resolving itself soonish?
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