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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 20:16 GMT
#855
VE what do you think of ruxxar?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 20:30 GMT
#857
On May 21 2019 05:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On May 21 2019 05:13 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 02:33 ruXxar wrote:
havent played a mafia game where its been this hard to come up with solid reads ngl.
everyone being active smart or active gorilla, hard to tell apart day 1.

hope this isnt like a hf/koshi/art game or something.
On May 21 2019 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
By nature of when he was here and what was going on, How is just general inactivity make more more suspicious? If he appears just to avoid potential warnings/modkills it would look suspicious otherwise why does it get worse?

There are far better options atm then someone who might get removed via a mod. That is literally why he shouldnt be up for a lynch

isnt banking on modkills a bad idea? like nothing stops him showing up 1-2mins b4 deadline posting something and then avoiding the modkill.
i think VE has a point. in recent fibonacci themed game, scum!vivax got a bunch of votes thrown in his face and just disappeared from the face of the earth.


Thing is, If he shows up and provides literally nothing just to save himself that itself is more or less the proof youd need to off him as he cares enough to live but not play. Its day 1. Id rather rng day 1 than just kill someone who might eat a modkill.

Vivax flipped red last game but Id argue the same thing. To me at the point he vanished I wasn't sold on the kill Vivax. He got modkilled and flipped red. Doesn't prove that this will happen this time as its a different player.

alright, i mean if he does it really obvious like we can obviously just lynch him next day. point is rather: if he is likely to flip scum we should still lynch him and not bank on a mod action. and d1 imo is not a bad day to lynch into the less active players.
not sure if he is my preferred lunch though. mah reeds are kinda ass atm tbh. gonna duck out for another hour. will hopefully be back to actually play then
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:16 GMT
#918
im confused by whats going on tbh.
yall sound super fucking unmotivated.
wish i had more time to sort this shit out, but its getting late already again.
On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.

didnt see any conclusion follow up on that btw
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:27 GMT
#923
On May 21 2019 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 21 2019 07:16 disformation wrote:
im confused by whats going on tbh.
yall sound super fucking unmotivated.
wish i had more time to sort this shit out, but its getting late already again.
On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.

didnt see any conclusion follow up on that btw


didn't happen, probably won't :D

"cool"
still trying to make sense of ruxxar tbh. prolly overthinking it.
dont mind bugs points, but after mulling over it a bit ruxxars reentry seems more town to me
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:34 GMT
#924
On May 21 2019 06:49 Koshi wrote:
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On May 21 2019 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi that Calix read for real? She came at me bro, not many people do that.

Dnu man. I think she is mafia. Really do. Maybe she is not mafia. My vote will be for her. For reasons given.

First post was really not good enough. Way too generic and like ruxxar said fabricated.

I really really dont believe this is town Calix. Town Calix is smarter. Better. More in detail.

see thing is: i dont think it looks like either her previous town nor her previous scum games? but as i said i dont really want to meta her.
i also dont hate her for being like "imma sheep yo". tl could use a bit more sheep and a bit less ego imo.
thing that bothers me is that she is kinda around, kinda not around.
kinda jives with:
On May 21 2019 06:41 Koshi wrote:
I am back to voting Calix. The most grey posts and prudent as fuck.

I am not going to change on that anymore.

She cleaned up her posts today and when I removed my suspicion nothing more came from her. That's not ok.


Final read is that she plays to survive and not to solve the puzzle.


though. dunno if her plan to survive is to call everyone who calls her mafia bad and or scum.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:45 GMT
#926
actually on the last point: you are not as bad at calling ppl scum/bad than i thought after looking through your filter again.
also fucking good question.
maybe i was to generous with jock/conv
going to take a quick read at wbg/bc too
bit irritated at the ve gtfoing and hf kinda not really caring interaction
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:46 GMT
#927
head is full of cotton and i am swimming in a sea of abstract math
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:52 GMT
#929
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.


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Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:59 GMT
#931
On May 21 2019 07:48 Calix wrote:
I am tired myself but I'm happy to talk about whatever thoughts you have You are pretty chill to discuss stuff with, lol.

getting kinda late here, but i can be around a bit longer.

so head kinda at:
there is something wrong in calix <> wbg <> koshi that i need to look at after ive gotten some sleep.

i think bc hasnt explained the jock reads stuff so I actually have no idea how some reads in his filter came to be, which i dont like the longer the game progresses. the last page of his filter also doesnt carry a lot of good information. liked him better earlier in the game.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:03 GMT
#934
On May 21 2019 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Someone is going to have to explain why they think ruxxar became townier with his responses cause I’m not really seeing it. He came back and basically posted a few things that made absolutely no sense (why does he think one of Calix/conversion is scum??) with no particular read progression-he even claimed he read the thread and the only thing that really changed is that he now town reads Koshi.

He also pulled a second disappearing act as people are fighting over Calix again. Why is this such a hard lynch?

i mean its not slam dunk (unfortunaley nothing is so far), but a) tone b) like where does mafia come in like "yeah was reading filter for an hour, got these small things, but basically not much, cu". imo the "sry got nothing" is more likely town, as scum would frantically try to have "something"
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:05 GMT
#935
On May 21 2019 07:55 Calix wrote:
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On May 21 2019 07:52 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.



Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here


WBG has played one game with me about a year ago (?). He was mafia. I was town. We were both alive for a while IIRC.

I've played maybe 5 times with Koshi, don't really remember. We have never been the same alignment before. Usually he is mafia and I am town.

Does that help?

nah i need to double check if koshi and wbg actually make like sense. xD
like koshi is scumreading both wbg and you? and im kinda seeing his comment on wbg pushing him on calix?
not sure though. but the whole thing seems off to me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:09 GMT
#938
On May 21 2019 08:02 Calix wrote:
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On May 21 2019 07:59 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:48 Calix wrote:
I am tired myself but I'm happy to talk about whatever thoughts you have You are pretty chill to discuss stuff with, lol.

getting kinda late here, but i can be around a bit longer.

so head kinda at:
there is something wrong in calix <> wbg <> koshi that i need to look at after ive gotten some sleep.

i think bc hasnt explained the jock reads stuff so I actually have no idea how some reads in his filter came to be, which i dont like the longer the game progresses. the last page of his filter also doesnt carry a lot of good information. liked him better earlier in the game.



Actually I have a question about BC. When I saw his post against Artanis, I thought it was weird, almost OOC, coming from him. Seemed a lot 'angrier' (for lack of a better word) than what I'd expect. (also I didn't understand the part where he says he was protecting Artanis given Artanis hasn't been under any pressure)

But I also don't know the guy at all. Is that kind of thing normal for him?

[I also haven't paid any attention to him, might go read his filter actually]

dont think ive played with him before? maybe he has history with art?
but ruxxar noticed the same:
On May 21 2019 06:16 ruXxar wrote:
Why the hell are you getting so defensive over a single post by artanis bloody. If you were town i would expect you to shrug at the accusation, but here you write a 200 word essay trying refute the point.


On May 21 2019 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.


You need to follow up on this now or I’m booting you from my town circle

You say you find it weird that I “defended” iGrok when it’s more like I provided the only valid perspective that isn’t completely coloured by “he used a bad reason for the only thug he’s done so he’s scum”. I find it weird that even now he’s the only person you’re willing to kill.

ruxxar is clearly actively lurking, he basically admitted it twice. That’s more than we can say for iGrok who just straight up disappeared.


hm? maybe im stupid and/or blind, but could you quote that?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:11 GMT
#939
On May 21 2019 08:07 Calix wrote:
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On May 21 2019 08:05 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:55 Calix wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:52 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.



Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here


WBG has played one game with me about a year ago (?). He was mafia. I was town. We were both alive for a while IIRC.

I've played maybe 5 times with Koshi, don't really remember. We have never been the same alignment before. Usually he is mafia and I am town.

Does that help?

nah i need to double check if koshi and wbg actually make like sense. xD
like koshi is scumreading both wbg and you? and im kinda seeing his comment on wbg pushing him on calix?
not sure though. but the whole thing seems off to me.


I don't think they're mafia together, lol.

Koshi is considerably more likely mafia anyway. I noticed during the VE/ HF fight that he basically popped in and changed a bunch of scum-reads around with zero explanations. You can check for yourself. It really reeks of 'throw a dart at some names and claim they're your new scum-reads' play.

yeah not sure what to make of koshi this game tbh.
unfortunately koshi can be an absolute shitter as town D1. think i was in a game where we misslynched him d1 for basically just playing with himself. less volume than this game though. felt pretty bad after misslynching him tbh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:22 GMT
#944
On May 21 2019 08:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 08:03 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Someone is going to have to explain why they think ruxxar became townier with his responses cause I’m not really seeing it. He came back and basically posted a few things that made absolutely no sense (why does he think one of Calix/conversion is scum??) with no particular read progression-he even claimed he read the thread and the only thing that really changed is that he now town reads Koshi.

He also pulled a second disappearing act as people are fighting over Calix again. Why is this such a hard lynch?

i mean its not slam dunk (unfortunaley nothing is so far), but a) tone b) like where does mafia come in like "yeah was reading filter for an hour, got these small things, but basically not much, cu". imo the "sry got nothing" is more likely town, as scum would frantically try to have "something"


What?? a) His tone is meek. He literally called himself a mouse
b) what you mentioned here is more mafia indicative than town!! It’s mafia who aren’t willing to commit to reads, not townies. How could someone possibly read 20+ pages of this game and come out with a town read on Koshi and no scum reads? It’s fairly clear he thought he should have one as well, because he offers conversion up as a potential lynch.

I’d love to see what Conversion thinks about that, honestly.

As for the Koshi and me business, Koshi is probably just scum this game because he’s been slinging stuff for a while and trying to just get it to stick. If you look at Koshi’s past games where he plays town he actually tries to figure out stuff despite the high volume of posting one liners. There is no real progression here, it just seems like he’s trying to find things that would throw us off and making it much harder to read the game. I am actually shocked at how many town reads he is getting for this play, especially because they’re completely unexplained as well.

eh I mean he has a secondary scum read/lean on conversion and also doesnt like jock (though not sure if that means scum).
the dawg/mice post was pretty strange though. fairly threadaware (is that even a word?) for his low activity.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:24 GMT
#946
On May 21 2019 08:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 08:15 Calix wrote:
On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.


VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far.

Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game.

On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Rayn, what was the plan behind it?

No plan. I just thought it would be fun.


So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead?

That's really the line you're going with lol?

Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...

I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too.


Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn??

It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.


Okay I admit I haven't read all of BC's posts.

But I felt compelled to point out how bad the bolded part is.

Look at that and tell me that ISN'T the sort of post a mafia makes when trying to avoid voting for a mafia buddy.

It has everything. The structure. The inability to concisely say "he's scummy but let's wait and see". The avenues left open.

The admission that someone made a point against iGrok.

The excuses made to sidestep the point.

The 'yeah he's mafia but give him a chance' line that gives BC the option to either vote for iGrok if his posts continued to suck or town-read iGrok if his posts became good.

I didn't even scum-read either BC or iGrok before this but holy shit, this paragraph is disgusting.


If you wanna make bad association reads feel free to throw me on the pile because I made literally the same comment on iGrok. This is not the avenue to attack BC for.

Also lynching BC today is not very high value. Yeah, he could be scum, but we’d be ignoring a lot of good evidence and several players much more likely to flip scum than BC.

In fact, if you actually think this, rather than throwing shade on BC just vote iGrok and kill him instead, because we’ll get rid of a useless player and we’ll be able to confirm or deny the association afterward.

note: not a fan of preflip associations in general.
not 100% what you mean with low/high value lynchs?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:27 GMT
#948
On May 21 2019 08:25 Calix wrote:
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On May 21 2019 08:22 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 08:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 08:03 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Someone is going to have to explain why they think ruxxar became townier with his responses cause I’m not really seeing it. He came back and basically posted a few things that made absolutely no sense (why does he think one of Calix/conversion is scum??) with no particular read progression-he even claimed he read the thread and the only thing that really changed is that he now town reads Koshi.

He also pulled a second disappearing act as people are fighting over Calix again. Why is this such a hard lynch?

i mean its not slam dunk (unfortunaley nothing is so far), but a) tone b) like where does mafia come in like "yeah was reading filter for an hour, got these small things, but basically not much, cu". imo the "sry got nothing" is more likely town, as scum would frantically try to have "something"


What?? a) His tone is meek. He literally called himself a mouse
b) what you mentioned here is more mafia indicative than town!! It’s mafia who aren’t willing to commit to reads, not townies. How could someone possibly read 20+ pages of this game and come out with a town read on Koshi and no scum reads? It’s fairly clear he thought he should have one as well, because he offers conversion up as a potential lynch.

I’d love to see what Conversion thinks about that, honestly.

As for the Koshi and me business, Koshi is probably just scum this game because he’s been slinging stuff for a while and trying to just get it to stick. If you look at Koshi’s past games where he plays town he actually tries to figure out stuff despite the high volume of posting one liners. There is no real progression here, it just seems like he’s trying to find things that would throw us off and making it much harder to read the game. I am actually shocked at how many town reads he is getting for this play, especially because they’re completely unexplained as well.

eh I mean he has a secondary scum read/lean on conversion and also doesnt like jock (though not sure if that means scum).
the dawg/mice post was pretty strange though. fairly threadaware (is that even a word?) for his low activity.


Think the term you want is 'image conscious'

I didn't get the impression he scum-read Jock. The way he worded it made it sound like he found Jock more annoying than scummy, lol.

mh yeah guess that kind of awareness is more likely scum.
yeah would interpret the comment on jock that way as well. though i am not a fan of having to interpret peoples reads.

also its like 01:30 here and i got work tomorrow. will sleep on ruxx. i should have more time to play tomorrow so ill try to make up my mind on this shit. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:33 GMT
#950
mh aight. maybe i was to quick/generous with my assessment.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 08:37 GMT
#1083
Mh town!rayn kinda scum reads me regardless of my alignment while Joshi is supposed to have a decent meta on me.
So the question makes sense if he thinks koshi is town.

On phone omw to work. More stuff soon trademark
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 09:21 GMT
#1133
joshi: it is super hard to find posts in your filter.
On May 21 2019 15:32 Koshi wrote:
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On May 21 2019 10:58 Conversion wrote:
it also feels soo bad when a player only responds to a case without ever addressing any of the other reasons why I scum read him. that case alone isn't why i scum read disfo-- it's his inaction and general laziness and people are OK with him chilling out, but aren't with others. I've asked him like minimum two times now about what his thoughts were and who he wants to lynch, and he's just ducked it until he could nitpick my case and ignore everything else I posted thus far

im so confused

I am with you.

tbh am fairly irritated about this.
e.g.:
On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote:
disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings

who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything?

i am pretty damn sure i have talked about all of the points you raise here (and did so before your meta thing) and i am confused why you still say i flat out ignore you. you are ignoring my posts.
also no idea how teh fuck i am chilling out, i am trying to play as much as i can ~~
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 21 2019 09:22 GMT
#1134
man. conv could be scum after all. also not sure if i like koshi agreeing to that crap.
prolly biased though.

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