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On May 26 2019 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 06:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 26 2019 06:50 Calix wrote:On May 26 2019 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 26 2019 06:44 Calix wrote:On May 26 2019 06:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 26 2019 06:38 Calix wrote:On May 26 2019 06:35 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 26 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
For the good of the thread I will leave for approximately 1 hour to give iGrok some breathing room so he can chat it out with you guys and maybe you can quote that post I made against him asking why VE was red or something, that'd be swell. Figuring him out is key. I don't think we can figure him out from his colourful chart because I think you're making more of than is necessary. Its definitely not the scummiest thing I've seen in this game. Shit its not even the scummiest thing you've pointed out in this game. Hey you, are YOU willing to switch to VE or rayn or Koshi or SOMETHING? As someone who is observing the thread, as opposed to getting caught up in everything, I can confirm that they are going out of their way to spam up the thread with irrelevant one-liners. We really need to kill one of them to make the thread more readable. I am becoming convinced that all the time-poor posters are town and that the mafia are spamming to make the time-poor posters unable to keep up, thus meaning they make bad posts, thus meaning active townies think they're scum and lynch them. Yeah I am. Absolutely. Who should I read first though. Any advice, because that's a buttload of filter and I don't wanna randomly lynch a spammer, especially cos I'm a bit of a spammer myself. I'm not asking you to read filters. Trust me, I'd never ask someone to read the entirety of Koshi/ rayn/ VE's filters. Just go back a few pages. Maybe 10. Skim-read those pages. Look at who is going out of their way to make spammy one-liners when they don't have to. Maybe keep a tally or something. Lynch those people. LOL no. Shit you think I just want to randomly lynch a spammer for spamming regardless of their intention? Cleaning up the thread is not my priority. I'll lynch a spammer if they are scum because they are the most dangerous scum. At least two mafia are in the spammers. Not 100% sure all three of them are, however. I, personally, think rayn and VE are most likely to hit red. rayn especially has not said anything intelligent. Even though he's around, he never adds updated points as to why I am mafia. He just repeats the same thing over and over; this is a form of spam which vaguely resembles his 'town meta' but actually isn't his town meta because he lacks fluidity. He just berates people for 'shit lynches' while doing nothing to change anything [this is something he can do as mafia. It's not exclusive to his town game]. Meanwhile VE posts nothing but waffly posts and Appeal to Emotion [ATE] posts. I read this as mafia because he tends to make ATE posts when people are making inconvenient points against him. It looks like a deflection tactic. I'm least inclined to lynch Koshi purely because of the Veteran claim. But he is playing like mafia even if he is town. I'm sitting here thinking about this post. Oh God I'm going to have to do it. Its Amanda Young time. I'll be back before deadline, hopefully with a case on one of these. Don't do it Blue, not only is it pointless but you don't want to. None of us are getting lynched today, none of the people who are mad at us actually think we're mafia except for Bugs. You and Calix and Bugs can't lynch us over like iGrok or Artanis, and unlike rayn and Koshi I'm going to try and consolidate (whether or not I agree with the target) for the sake of putting information in the thread to help EVERYONE, not just me.
Prove him wrong please. Again, PSA: If you are voting Artanis, move your vote to VE and watch what happens.
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No discussion necessary, in fact a silent move is preferred because you will see exactly who it is who gets antsy.
If you are voting NOT iGrok vote VE instead.
If you are voting iGrok, don't move.
Don't post unless you are scum, just follow these instructions.
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Day Two Vote Count
iGrok (6): Holyflare, Calix, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, Wherebugsgo, Artanis[Xp], Disformation, Jockmcplop, VisceraEyes, Holyflare, Wherebugsgo, VisceraEyes
Artanis[Xp] (3): Jockmcplop, Koshi, VisceraEyes, BloodyC0bbler, Conversion, VisceraEyes, Koshi, Jockmcplop, VisceraEyes, iGrok
Calix (2): VisceraEyes, Koshi, Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, Koshi
Holyflare(1): iGrok, iGrok
Wherebugsgo(0): Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Koshi, Holyflare
VisceraEyes(0): VisceraEyes
Koshi(0): Wherebugsgo
Not voting(0):
iGrok is currently set to be lynched with 6 votes.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Sunday, May 26 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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On May 26 2019 09:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +once there's 3 votes on you my plan is to move Artanis & disfo to you to prove that they are town and cooperating with us, and put you in the lead. This forces rayn and Koshi to either try and save you, or let you die.
then you will get hammered by one, two, or all three of myself, Calix, and HF right before deadline
You scared buddy?
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God you all are the worst
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On May 26 2019 09:23 iGrok wrote:
God you all are the worst
move your vote to VE or you're still going to die.
You need to put your vote where your townreads tell you today. It's POE on you, VE, rayn, and Koshi.
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“Grok, why aren’t you explaining your reads”?
I gave you a literally color-coded map of my brain.
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On May 26 2019 09:25 iGrok wrote:
“Grok, why aren’t you explaining your reads”?
I gave you a literally color-coded map of my brain.
I don't give a fuck about your reads because you are in disagreement with everyone else on HF and you are being really obstinate. It's actually starting to become indistinguishable for me from scum behaviour.
If you townread me, Calix, Jock then you should just trust us on HF, he's not dying here, so don't waste your vote for the second time in 5 days, it tells me you've made no reasonable progress on the game if you are this tunneled, and it also suggests that you will be a liability for town because if HF gets shot by mafia you will become even bigger lynchbait.
If you don't want to cooperate then you can die. Artanis is not scum here, I pretty much guarantee that 100%.
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People are giving me shit for OMGUS but HF is the one who has been leading the charge, making a case built entirely on “this guy isn’t answering questions that I’m asking him so clearly he’s scum”.
HF became self-appointed mayor and you all just sheeped him. The dude is like “you must answer me, I control your fate”, but fuck that, he’s scum. But since he spans more than anyone else he makes it seem like public favor is against me
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On May 26 2019 09:29 iGrok wrote:
People are giving me shit for OMGUS but HF is the one who has been leading the charge, making a case built entirely on “this guy isn’t answering questions that I’m asking him so clearly he’s scum”.
HF became self-appointed mayor and you all just sheeped him. The dude is like “you must answer me, I control your fate”, but fuck that, he’s scum. But since he spans more than anyone else he makes it seem like public favor is against me
we're giving you the fucking opportunity to reread on HF and he's literally begging you to do something other than attack him.
FFS if you are town stop talking about HF, take your head out of your ass and read Artanis and his interactions with me if you want to see why he is also town here. We are NEVER lynching HF here either. So your vote on either player is essentially indistinguishable from scum.
Look at it from my perspective. I'm telling you, this is a POE situation where the possible scum are you, VE, rayn, Koshi, where I am nearly 100% sure VE is the most likely scum.
If you move to VE and we can get 3-4 votes on him, HF may be able to drop his tunnel on you because we can safely ensure neither Artanis/you get lynched, when half of the townreads are on one player and the other half are on the other, and to me it looks like classic TvT.
Also based on that, realize that if mafia don't shoot HF, you are lynchbait because you will OMGUS HF. If mafia shoot HF, you are lynchbait because you have no time to play the game and your only hard scum read up till now has been HF. Ignore HF and find the other two scum that fit your worldview.
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Like, his fucking case is based on minutiae that he refuses to understand and activity. He asks questions of me and then when I’m not here because I’m on a goddamn airplane or in class he says , haha! Grok is mafia and is afraid! And then when I get back there’s another 30 fucking pages to read over
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I already switched to Artanis, obviously Hf isn’t happening
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On May 26 2019 09:34 iGrok wrote:
I already switched to Artanis, obviously Hf isn’t happening
well you aren't fucking reading Artanis either so you can die.
I think you have to die and see this in postgame to understand how colossally anti-town you're being here.
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No, colossally anti-town is making the game so colossally long that it’s impossible to follow
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On May 26 2019 09:37 iGrok wrote:
No, colossally anti-town is making the game so colossally long that it’s impossible to follow
WHO DID THAT THE MOST? Just look at the longest filter length in the game. Might it be....VE??
Jesus
this is the only post you'll ever need to read in this game, iGrok. I guarantee you.
On May 25 2019 22:24 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's ignoring posts where I interact amicably and productively with all of disformation/Holyflare/Jock.
amicably and productively = every single time you poop on their reads and try to make them less confident. Show nested quote +
He's ignoring the fact that I do engage with him - I just disagree with him and he's salty af.
The literal lynchpin of the case is you saying you disagree with me on disfo/ruxxar (I townread disfo and scumread ruxxar). Yet, disfo is one of the few players you never voted d1!!!! Show nested quote +
He's ignoring the fact that I tried on D1 to achieve consolidation, and broke it only in an effort to appease and work with him.
My consolidation options given to you were disfo, ruxxar, and Calix. You never voted disfo even though you scummed disfo like four times interacting with me. I even called you out on it and you just matrix dodged. Then you voted your townread ruxxar when iGrok was the leading lynch. GTFOH with your complete and utter lack of hard stances this game. The best towntell anyone has for you is that they're not reading your filter because it's 30+ pages.
On May 25 2019 22:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 22:20 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 19:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2019 04:28 Koshi wrote:
I dont understand how this town is so divided. Cant believe it. Its because we have HF and bugs. You know bugs is basically hard claiming PR now right? TMI TMI TMI IF YOU BELIEVE THIS AS TOWN WHY DO YOU ANNOUNCE IT IN THREAD If he believes it as mafia why wouldn't he just shoot you and not say anything? because he needs to discredit me first, he knows I will flip town. It's just a series of posts in which he does nothing but discredit me with 0 reasons. He even just spams in bold with no rebuttals whatsoever multiple times just to bury a completely reasonable post I've made. There is no town motivation for him saying that BTW. Literal zero. There is no reason for any townie to out a blue in public.
On May 25 2019 22:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it On May 22 2019 09:54 iGrok wrote:
But like, ruxxar is still my #4 so its fine This sequence of post makes me think it might be iGrok/Calix after all and at the same time it doesn't. iGrok voted Calix for a grand total of 15 minutes before realizing HF/Calix is unlikely to be a pair. Yet he's fine with Rux being lynched over his top 2 scumreads. Why would he not want to resolve HF/Calix? If Calix is lynched and flips green, he'd know HF is red, and he's null on Rux. I don't comprehend his thought process at all. which is why you SHOULD call him scum. and in the off-chance he flips town, you kill rayn and Koshi who defended him for 0 reasons whatsoever.
On May 25 2019 22:36 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 22:24 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 22:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's ignoring posts where I interact amicably and productively with all of disformation/Holyflare/Jock.
1)amicably and productively = every single time you poop on their reads and try to make them less confident.
He's ignoring the fact that I do engage with him - I just disagree with him and he's salty af.
2)The literal lynchpin of the case is you saying you disagree with me on disfo/ruxxar (I townread disfo and scumread ruxxar). Yet, disfo is one of the few players you never voted d1!!!!
He's ignoring the fact that I tried on D1 to achieve consolidation, and broke it only in an effort to appease and work with him.
3)My consolidation options given to you were disfo, ruxxar, and Calix. You never voted disfo even though you scummed disfo like four times interacting with me. I even called you out on it and you just matrix dodged. Then you voted your townread ruxxar when iGrok was the leading lynch. GTFOH with your complete and utter lack of hard stances this game.
He's ignoring the fact that I've towntold innumerable times in this thread.
The best towntell anyone has for you is that they're not reading your filter because it's 30+ pages. 1) Yes, by poking holes in their logic and trying to see other perspectives. It's called trying to understand peoples reads. Try it sometime, rather than just try and shove your own reads down peoples' throat. 2) Yes I never voted disfo! That doesn't make me mafia! I voted for a bunch of different people, and I ultimately never ended up thinking disfo was mafia either! :OOOOOOOOOO THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME MAFIA! And in spite of disagreeing with you, I DID END UP WORKING WITH YOU IN THE END ON RUXXAR! :OOOOOOOO 3) Yes, you gave me a shit list of candidates and I didn't lynch into it! No one wanted to lynch Calix regardless of how I felt about it, I disagreed on ruxxar, and I disagreed on disfo! So yes, I GOT CONSOLIDATION ON IGROK, which you're now using AGAINST ME, AND THEN I ABANDONED IT IN THE NAME OF WORKING WITH YOU WHICH IS THE LITERAL LYNCHPIN OF THE CASE THAT I WON'T WORK WITH YOUAWOFINAOAPIWERVNIAOPVN 4) That's pretty decent, though i'm even capable of that as mafia and is not what I'm referring to. Just remove this point, it's dumb anyway. The first three completely decimate your entire case against me, the rest of it is "feels" based because you dislike the way I've played this game so far. 1. so you manage to poke holes in everyone else's logic but never offer up your own scumreads, basically ever, why? Well, with the exception of disfo being scum, which you didn't explain, and didn't push even though I gave him as an option to you. 2. Can you point out to me at which point you thought disfo was town and why? 3. A shit list of candidates in which I explicitly townread disfo, but you disagreed with him and didn't vote him. But now it's you disagreed on disfo at the same time I presented them? Which one is it VE? Here's what you said at the moment I was arguing with you about consolidation: Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 11:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bugs you're doing a lot of narrative building to justify your reads. Like, I came to the exact opposite read of disfo's filter, it looks like he's FAR more guilty of the things you're accusing ruxxar of and you're making up some shit to justify calling him town and rux mafia.
On May 25 2019 22:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
No I can't point to a post where I said disfo was scum, I thought that was implied by my reluctance to vote him Bugs. Like....you're tunneled. Everything is just confirming your bias. I refuse to accept responsibility for this. Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 11:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bugs you're doing a lot of narrative building to justify your reads. Like, I came to the exact opposite read of disfo's filter, it looks like he's FAR more guilty of the things you're accusing ruxxar of and you're making up some shit to justify calling him town and rux mafia. I feel like I was pretty explicit hard town on disfo at this point. Exact opposite of hard town = hard scum. I mean, these are your own words. I'm not twisting anything here, you just aren't making any sense. Then you actually double down on this: Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just find it strange that we have the exact opposite reads of ruxxar and disformation...my reasons are based on shit that's here in the thread and your shit is based on "OH HE'S CAPABLE OF THIS IF YOU SQUINT SEE HERE!!!"
Fuck outta here. If it was based on stuff in the thread why don't you cite what things made you read disfo to the "exact opposite" as I did? Obligatory "I'm not dodging I swear": Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not dodging shit Bugs calm your shit down.
If you're being reasonable here this should simultaneously turn you townier on Artanis and scummier on VE. Just read this post for me.
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Yeah k you took that long to read one post and not come back. You’re probably just scum with VE, who probably didn’t have the balls to bus you on d1 so he voted a townread.
rayn is probably the last because Koshi’s claim makes more sense than rayn’s and Koshi at least reconsidered Calix.
Cool cool.
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