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On May 23 2019 19:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 19:38 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2019 19:34 VisceraEyes wrote: koshi aiming at 2-2-2-2-2 again.
Maybe I'm wrong on Koshi. Meh. You say weird things. You jump off Calix and I need to stay on her? Dnu bro. Lynch on Calix might be dirty because iGrok is not mafia. I can also lynch Art. It just felt weird. Like you were so sure yesterday. But w/e I can lynch Art. Yes. Opening and her attacking me but not voting me is annoying and not sensical. But HF/Artanis/BloodyCobbler are so passive and not making waves. If they are mafia it fits with Calix not being mafia. BC stomping down Bugs reads as town to me, ymmv
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like obviusly it would for me, but I think it should to others.
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On May 23 2019 19:43 Koshi wrote: BloodyC also puts so many questions in his posts that are so mehhhhh. I dont understand why people do that. I do. I don't agree that it's helpful, but Iknow why they do it.
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On May 23 2019 19:43 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 19:41 Calix wrote:I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town. People need to stop saying shit like this. Why? I don't know why Calix doesn't like it, but my problem with it is easy.
IT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENS
Like the townies that end up flipping the first person, they ~0% of the time lynch the other guy next. The only person who EVER feels strongly enough about the next guy is the guy who's dying THAT DOESN'T GET A VOTE NEXT CYCLE.
Further, it's combative, and allows NO recourse in the case that it's Town vs Town (which it almost ALWAYS is, mafia NEVER want to sacrifice themselves for a townie like what?) so EVEN IF it ended up working out, IT USUALLY KILLS TWO TOWNIES.
It's dumb. People DO need to stahp.
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Oh I thought that was someone saying "flip me then flip this guy next"
Associative reads are bad too, but that's not what I was talking about.
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On May 23 2019 19:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I know this will likely damn me but whatever.
I am looking into Igroks filter. Opening a post and reading the thread around it for context and I just dont see it. He is actively trying to figure the thread out IMO and his reads do appear to change based on how the thread progresses. Again, he can easily be fooling me but I just don't see how he priority in lynching at this moment in time.
As such
##vote artanis He literally came back and complained about the thread size and fucked off.
Whatever I like your vote just ugh, igrok can easily be mafia.
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And it's not even original, he did it before too, I memed at him.
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On May 22 2019 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 01:52 iGrok wrote:On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote: Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything. Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1? + Show Spoiler [don't open me] +
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I kinda hope I'm Artanis' lynch preference. Because I'm gonna stonewall him if I am, like hard.
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On May 23 2019 20:37 wherebugsgo wrote: Hi all. This might be my only post before I go to bed today. I'm not sure there was any indication anybody read my last post but I recommend you all to read it.
For this analysis, unless explicitly mentioned, when I talk about "player(s)" I will not include myself.
A lot of players, myself included, seem very confused about the state of this game. However, every player has taken at least one hard stance on their own merits, all with their own reasons...except for three players.
One of those three players is on the lynch list for today. The other two are "off-world" reads that only two, maybe three players have really at any point scumread.
I don't know how I feel about that yet but thought I would throw this observation in the thread. Anyone who can correctly identify which 3 players I am talking about, cases and votes one of them without waffling wins town points in my book. Often enough your posts contain these little games for arbitrary town points. I hope you're adequately awarding town points for people who tell you to shove your town points, because if you lynch based only on people who play your little games and who doesn't you're gonna have a bad time.
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This is what I'm talking about by narrative building Bugs, and this is all I'm going to say on the matter.
You have built up this idea of how you think the game should be played. And anyone not strictly adhering to that idea is suspect to you. Like your insistence that I go back and forth with you over our disagreeing reads. You think that me conceding that I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you and NOT being baited into an argument is "ignoring your posts" or "not reading the thread" or any other number of things you've accused me of. It's not, that's not what's happening, but you've now built this narrative in your head and in the thread that I must not be reading the thread, and I must be entirely ignoring your posts and not reading them at all just because I'm not responding to them. And it's informing not just your opinion, but the way you treat me. And frankly, I'd just rather not. Which is why I have been opting out of interacting with you regarding your reads. We disagree, and we're NOT going to convince the other. So I'm disengaging. Apparently I have to do that. This is me explicitly disengaging from you regarding the reads we disagree on.
Now for reasons that have nothing to do with you, my activity is going to PLUMMET this cycle. I've already decided to stonewall any suspicion cast on me because I think it's preferable to me shitting up the thread which is the alternative, and most of my thoughts are going to come in short bursts and I likely won't be responding to direct questions. I understand that this is going to change reads of me and I accept that. But I've been too emotionally invested in this game and it's affecting my home life and I need to step back.
I have no hard feelings toward you Bugs, but I won't continue to engage on the level you've decided we're on this game. If you feel like I'm among the toxic elements in this game, I apologize. It was entirely unintentional. I hope you can see that I'm town now, and that you were wrong, and that even if I end up mafia reading you this game, it's not because I don't like you.
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On May 23 2019 22:28 Koshi wrote: Maybe if I play wbg his game he will like me more. 🤔 Just stop calling him bad and stupid and retarded and pants on head and you don't even have to play his game.
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On May 23 2019 22:29 Calix wrote: I also agree that Conversion's post reads as extremely townie for his frustration over his efforts largely being ignored...as opposed to him being okay that most people don't really care about him. The latter IS an ideal situation for mafia, after all.
Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? Whoa whoa whoa, when was I part of a situation?
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On May 23 2019 22:32 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 22:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 23 2019 22:29 Calix wrote: I also agree that Conversion's post reads as extremely townie for his frustration over his efforts largely being ignored...as opposed to him being okay that most people don't really care about him. The latter IS an ideal situation for mafia, after all.
Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? Whoa whoa whoa, when was I part of a situation? We were bickering a bunch earlier. Also I don't think he's talked a lot about you so his take would be A. I guess, fmp if he's not screaming for my head he's
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I like the question about Disfo/Koshi tho, and eagerly anticipate his inevitable response.
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Bah, can't win em all.
Maybe next time.
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On May 23 2019 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: reiteratating:
she asks you for reads you say basically nothing everyone lives happily ever after Is it possible that rather than 'living happily ever after' Calix is just waiting on Conv to 'look into ve/art/bc' as he said he would do in his thread to get further input? and that Convo is waiting to look into ve/art/bc as he said before giving more thougths on them?
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On May 23 2019 23:14 Conversion wrote: we have 2 days and 12 hours. if we had 4 hours and I was still at my `I don't have any reads`, I should be lynched with fire. I think it's incredibly rash to tell me that I should have reads, after I admitted to why I don't have reads, with over 48 hours to play in the day cycle. My only issue is that like...you say you've been playing your own game and that you're frustrated about being in your own little world here. That sort of implies that rather than be in here posting up a bunch of shit trying to GET people to interact with you, you've been reading and forming your own thoughts (which people are not interested in or whatever).
So when asked, rather than say what you've been thinking about the players in question, you just say you HAVE no read, which being left to your own devices after 96 hours of the game being on seems.....unbelievable.
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On May 23 2019 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 23:12 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2019 23:06 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2019 22:55 Conversion wrote: I also did not call VE mafia, not sure where you're getting that from. I was specifically responding to Calix asking me about the VE/Artanis/BC/Calix stuff, and I was saying that if there was mafia in the 4, I can narrow it to three because I believe Calix is town.
I got it from this post: On May 23 2019 22:36 Conversion wrote:On May 23 2019 22:29 Calix wrote: I also agree that Conversion's post reads as extremely townie for his frustration over his efforts largely being ignored...as opposed to him being okay that most people don't really care about him. The latter IS an ideal situation for mafia, after all.
Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? [...] On the opinion on BC/VE/Calix/Artanis, I'm inclined to believe there is scum in there. If I'm going by my current reads (I honestly think you are town, not sure where this Calix mafia stuff is coming from), it'd be BC/VE/Artanis, so they'll be my focus today. Because your answer is very subtle. If you don't think one or more of those people are mafia, then idk why you word your post like this. I mean: Calix: what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation? Conv: I'm inclined to believe there is scum in there. If I'm going by my current reads it'd be BC/VE/Artanis. I dont think this looks natural at all, regardless of what you think about Calix. what is subtle about that, though? I am telling the thread that I feel as if there's a mafia in there (literally 0 reason, as you can see), and that I will focus my efforts in there. I still don't see the subtlety of calling VE mafia, if that's what you're getting at? Because this game is about giving reads on other people and the only thing you say is that you think there is mafia but Calix can be town and then both of you seems to just be happy with that answer......... because I have no reads. I have not read them, which I admitted to. I haven't read basically most of this game besides Koshi and Disfo on day 1. I can give you reads now if you want, but they'll be off me remembering things than actually doing research, which I don't want to do. I want to find logical inconsistencies, and I want to have proof that I caught scum. if my feeling wavers after actually reading their filters, then I'll look into someone else. I don't have time to have read everyone's filters especially when most are 10+ pages, with a lot of spam. I was busy for the past few days. No one is living happily ever after-- if I still don't give reads by the end of this 72hour day cycle, then that is enough to lynch me as dodging scum. fine, do what you do. but then dont tell other people you're mad at noone listening to you because you made basically one case yesterday you have now backed off and you seem to have no scumreads.
On May 23 2019 23:16 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 23:14 Conversion wrote: we have 2 days and 12 hours. if we had 4 hours and I was still at my `I don't have any reads`, I should be lynched with fire. I think it's incredibly rash to tell me that I should have reads, after I admitted to why I don't have reads, with over 48 hours to play in the day cycle. My only issue is that like...you say you've been playing your own game and that you're frustrated about being in your own little world here. That sort of implies that rather than be in here posting up a bunch of shit trying to GET people to interact with you, you've been reading and forming your own thoughts (which people are not interested in or whatever). So when asked, rather than say what you've been thinking about the players in question, you just say you HAVE no read, which being left to your own devices after 96 hours of the game being on seems.....unbelievable. These posts say basically the same thing, only in different ways. This is why I townread rayn, and why I'll probably never ever lynch him this game.
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You +1'd rayn, different from saying the same thing at the same time in a different way independently.
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