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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 14:25 GMT
#4109
On May 25 2019 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh Disfo you too please.

from the top of my head:
his readprogression on me sounded very natural.
think i liked a bunch of his posts n1/d2. esp. tone wise.
some ppl pointed out his eod1 to be questionable and hf pointed out an issue in conv's read progression yesterday that i also would call bad.

overall without going diving i think id still say more likely to be town.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 14:28 GMT
#4113
On May 25 2019 23:25 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh Disfo you too please.

from the top of my head:
his readprogression on me sounded very natural.
think i liked a bunch of his posts n1/d2. esp. tone wise.
some ppl pointed out his eod1 to be questionable and hf pointed out an issue in conv's read progression yesterday that i also would call bad.

overall without going diving i think id still say more likely to be town.

hmmm actualy not 100% sure.
would say looks better than grok/art/bc.
but imo calix looks better.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 14:51 GMT
#4142
On May 25 2019 23:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 23:28 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:25 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh Disfo you too please.

from the top of my head:
his readprogression on me sounded very natural.
think i liked a bunch of his posts n1/d2. esp. tone wise.
some ppl pointed out his eod1 to be questionable and hf pointed out an issue in conv's read progression yesterday that i also would call bad.

overall without going diving i think id still say more likely to be town.

hmmm actualy not 100% sure.
would say looks better than grok/art/bc.
but imo calix looks better.

Can you give me a list of reads? Townreads I don't care as much about, but I'd like an explanation for who you're scumreading and why. I'm mostly just seeing comments on things going on but I don't know what you think, other than apparently that you think me/igrok/bc are scum, which I find very odd given thread progression.

fair enough. tldr version:

lynch into:
bc - scum for often not explaining his reads, working very omgus based, generally not doing much after d1
art - falling off super hard in quality after d1. E.g. the super rushed list stuff n1 and waffling off bc was really strange too. Esp. since he still believed in the meta read on bc to be true.
grok - hidden notes, complaining and then gtfoing a bunch

maybe scum
conv - see earlier

town lean
calix - see earlier

town jesus and the holy spirit
jock
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 15:02 GMT
#4148
On May 25 2019 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 23:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Artanis I remember you being surprised at my name being an anagram this game, were you not around for those shenanigans

I actually literally made kurumi change my role PM flavour just so that I could whip out my claim. Then I think someone nuked my face

I don't remember.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 23:51 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:28 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:25 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh Disfo you too please.

from the top of my head:
his readprogression on me sounded very natural.
think i liked a bunch of his posts n1/d2. esp. tone wise.
some ppl pointed out his eod1 to be questionable and hf pointed out an issue in conv's read progression yesterday that i also would call bad.

overall without going diving i think id still say more likely to be town.

hmmm actualy not 100% sure.
would say looks better than grok/art/bc.
but imo calix looks better.

Can you give me a list of reads? Townreads I don't care as much about, but I'd like an explanation for who you're scumreading and why. I'm mostly just seeing comments on things going on but I don't know what you think, other than apparently that you think me/igrok/bc are scum, which I find very odd given thread progression.

fair enough. tldr version:

lynch into:
bc - scum for often not explaining his reads, working very omgus based, generally not doing much after d1
art - falling off super hard in quality after d1. E.g. the super rushed list stuff n1 and waffling off bc was really strange too. Esp. since he still believed in the meta read on bc to be true.
grok - hidden notes, complaining and then gtfoing a bunch

maybe scum
conv - see earlier

town lean
calix - see earlier

town jesus and the holy spirit
jock

Do you think it's really that likely I'm scum with the two people I've voted all game? Also, what puts iGrok ahead of being lynched instead of me? Also also, what do you think of WBG's point on Conversion being town for his meta cases and him backing off on being a dick, basically?

dont think all 3 in my lynch list are scum. prolly 2 though.
earlier: i liked your day 1, so you had some town points. now: one of you two is here doing stuff, the other is not.
one of the meta dives conv did was on me, so that factors in on the read progression on me that i liked. mh. maybe i should give him more points for this kind of stuff and put him in town lean together with calix. dont think i want to lynch either of them today tbh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 15:14 GMT
#4164
On May 26 2019 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 00:02 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Artanis I remember you being surprised at my name being an anagram this game, were you not around for those shenanigans

I actually literally made kurumi change my role PM flavour just so that I could whip out my claim. Then I think someone nuked my face

I don't remember.

On May 25 2019 23:51 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:28 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:25 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh Disfo you too please.

from the top of my head:
his readprogression on me sounded very natural.
think i liked a bunch of his posts n1/d2. esp. tone wise.
some ppl pointed out his eod1 to be questionable and hf pointed out an issue in conv's read progression yesterday that i also would call bad.

overall without going diving i think id still say more likely to be town.

hmmm actualy not 100% sure.
would say looks better than grok/art/bc.
but imo calix looks better.

Can you give me a list of reads? Townreads I don't care as much about, but I'd like an explanation for who you're scumreading and why. I'm mostly just seeing comments on things going on but I don't know what you think, other than apparently that you think me/igrok/bc are scum, which I find very odd given thread progression.

fair enough. tldr version:

lynch into:
bc - scum for often not explaining his reads, working very omgus based, generally not doing much after d1
art - falling off super hard in quality after d1. E.g. the super rushed list stuff n1 and waffling off bc was really strange too. Esp. since he still believed in the meta read on bc to be true.
grok - hidden notes, complaining and then gtfoing a bunch

maybe scum
conv - see earlier

town lean
calix - see earlier

town jesus and the holy spirit
jock

Do you think it's really that likely I'm scum with the two people I've voted all game? Also, what puts iGrok ahead of being lynched instead of me? Also also, what do you think of WBG's point on Conversion being town for his meta cases and him backing off on being a dick, basically?

dont think all 3 in my lynch list are scum. prolly 2 though.
earlier: i liked your day 1, so you had some town points. now: one of you two is here doing stuff, the other is not.
one of the meta dives conv did was on me, so that factors in on the read progression on me that i liked. mh. maybe i should give him more points for this kind of stuff and put him in town lean together with calix. dont think i want to lynch either of them today tbh.

I find your progression strange. Day 1 you were onto BC with me. Day 2 you're now on iGrok with me, so we have had the same general reads. What in my quality specifically is bad to you and is it still true after today?

i dont think im on igrok with you cause you made any good posts on igrok?
quality: tldr:
On May 24 2019 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I HAVE NO SCUMREADS

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 15:23 GMT
#4171
On May 26 2019 00:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 00:14 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:02 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Artanis I remember you being surprised at my name being an anagram this game, were you not around for those shenanigans

I actually literally made kurumi change my role PM flavour just so that I could whip out my claim. Then I think someone nuked my face

I don't remember.

On May 25 2019 23:51 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:28 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:25 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh Disfo you too please.

from the top of my head:
his readprogression on me sounded very natural.
think i liked a bunch of his posts n1/d2. esp. tone wise.
some ppl pointed out his eod1 to be questionable and hf pointed out an issue in conv's read progression yesterday that i also would call bad.

overall without going diving i think id still say more likely to be town.

hmmm actualy not 100% sure.
would say looks better than grok/art/bc.
but imo calix looks better.

Can you give me a list of reads? Townreads I don't care as much about, but I'd like an explanation for who you're scumreading and why. I'm mostly just seeing comments on things going on but I don't know what you think, other than apparently that you think me/igrok/bc are scum, which I find very odd given thread progression.

fair enough. tldr version:

lynch into:
bc - scum for often not explaining his reads, working very omgus based, generally not doing much after d1
art - falling off super hard in quality after d1. E.g. the super rushed list stuff n1 and waffling off bc was really strange too. Esp. since he still believed in the meta read on bc to be true.
grok - hidden notes, complaining and then gtfoing a bunch

maybe scum
conv - see earlier

town lean
calix - see earlier

town jesus and the holy spirit
jock

Do you think it's really that likely I'm scum with the two people I've voted all game? Also, what puts iGrok ahead of being lynched instead of me? Also also, what do you think of WBG's point on Conversion being town for his meta cases and him backing off on being a dick, basically?

dont think all 3 in my lynch list are scum. prolly 2 though.
earlier: i liked your day 1, so you had some town points. now: one of you two is here doing stuff, the other is not.
one of the meta dives conv did was on me, so that factors in on the read progression on me that i liked. mh. maybe i should give him more points for this kind of stuff and put him in town lean together with calix. dont think i want to lynch either of them today tbh.

I find your progression strange. Day 1 you were onto BC with me. Day 2 you're now on iGrok with me, so we have had the same general reads. What in my quality specifically is bad to you and is it still true after today?

i dont think im on igrok with you cause you made any good posts on igrok?
quality: tldr:
On May 24 2019 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I HAVE NO SCUMREADS


Yes, that was before HF cased iGrok. Also, why does me stating I have no scumreads make me more scummy than towny? I've posted a ton since that post for you to re-eval off of.

ah okay.
havent fully factored in the posts of today in yet tbh. was kinda waiting for you to finish reading and wanted to see what you conclude from there.
but yeah you coming in (thursday?) evening saying the meta read on bc is true, waffling off bugs, and then going "lol i have no scumread, cu" isnt what id exactly call high quality.
another thing: in your n1 list you had calix scum lean. no mention of calix -> "i have no scumreads"

sooo... yeah
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 15:34 GMT
#4189
On May 26 2019 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 00:23 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:14 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:02 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Artanis I remember you being surprised at my name being an anagram this game, were you not around for those shenanigans

I actually literally made kurumi change my role PM flavour just so that I could whip out my claim. Then I think someone nuked my face

I don't remember.

On May 25 2019 23:51 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:28 disformation wrote:
[quote]
hmmm actualy not 100% sure.
would say looks better than grok/art/bc.
but imo calix looks better.

Can you give me a list of reads? Townreads I don't care as much about, but I'd like an explanation for who you're scumreading and why. I'm mostly just seeing comments on things going on but I don't know what you think, other than apparently that you think me/igrok/bc are scum, which I find very odd given thread progression.

fair enough. tldr version:

lynch into:
bc - scum for often not explaining his reads, working very omgus based, generally not doing much after d1
art - falling off super hard in quality after d1. E.g. the super rushed list stuff n1 and waffling off bc was really strange too. Esp. since he still believed in the meta read on bc to be true.
grok - hidden notes, complaining and then gtfoing a bunch

maybe scum
conv - see earlier

town lean
calix - see earlier

town jesus and the holy spirit
jock

Do you think it's really that likely I'm scum with the two people I've voted all game? Also, what puts iGrok ahead of being lynched instead of me? Also also, what do you think of WBG's point on Conversion being town for his meta cases and him backing off on being a dick, basically?

dont think all 3 in my lynch list are scum. prolly 2 though.
earlier: i liked your day 1, so you had some town points. now: one of you two is here doing stuff, the other is not.
one of the meta dives conv did was on me, so that factors in on the read progression on me that i liked. mh. maybe i should give him more points for this kind of stuff and put him in town lean together with calix. dont think i want to lynch either of them today tbh.

I find your progression strange. Day 1 you were onto BC with me. Day 2 you're now on iGrok with me, so we have had the same general reads. What in my quality specifically is bad to you and is it still true after today?

i dont think im on igrok with you cause you made any good posts on igrok?
quality: tldr:
On May 24 2019 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I HAVE NO SCUMREADS


Yes, that was before HF cased iGrok. Also, why does me stating I have no scumreads make me more scummy than towny? I've posted a ton since that post for you to re-eval off of.

ah okay.
havent fully factored in the posts of today in yet tbh. was kinda waiting for you to finish reading and wanted to see what you conclude from there.
but yeah you coming in (thursday?) evening saying the meta read on bc is true, waffling off bugs, and then going "lol i have no scumread, cu" isnt what id exactly call high quality.
another thing: in your n1 list you had calix scum lean. no mention of calix -> "i have no scumreads"

sooo... yeah

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 20:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 24 2019 21:10 Calix wrote:
On May 24 2019 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least i didn't read your iGrok case HF. I am sure it is logically sound and can be even good, i just dont believe iGrok does what he did as mafia by eod1. Assuming you're town (you probably should do that if you are town) and knowing ruxxar is town there is simply no reason why he should make a stupid propositional calculus "testimony" about HF/ruxxar/Calix, one that is even wrong lol when he can just take a stance between those three players (or rather Calix/ruxxar) and vote for a townie. I say vote for a townie because in my eyes iGrok did that as scum ONLY in case calix is mafia, it's the only scenario that makes sense (even if you were mafia with iGrok it doesn't make sense to me) and in my opinion it definitely shouldn't make sense to you otherwise.

I still hate that Conversion participated in that shit and i think it makes him mafia.

In addition to what i have said about calix is this:
On May 24 2019 06:44 Calix wrote:
IMO rayn was posting a lot of bullshit. Like the meta thing which literally does not make me anything but which is the basis for his SUPER STRONG scum read, lmao. Or his interactions with Conversion where he somehow missed me saying 'look forward to seeing what you come up with, Conversion' to push a terrible Calix/ Conversion team.

[...]

I'm not gonna go ham on rayn though. It doesn't make sense to kill him today given how the chat's been going and there are better mafia to murder.

I don't believe this is what town!Calix does if she is quite certain i am mafia. I also have no idea what the last sentence even is lol...

I dont know what Artanis is, could be mafia could be town.



I tried killing you yesterday. It did nothing. Even if I make a case on you, people will say 'oh but his PC claim' or 'but his meta' and you will not die. I do not waste precious time on making a case on someone nobody wants dead. Especially when I could lynch my other scum-read instead.

Anyway.

I'm not sure how likely it is that iGrok and Artanis are both scum. If they were working together, I think they'd be trying to lynch me instead of...whatever the fuck it is they're doing.

Artanis seemed pretty happy to have no scum-reads for ages until he sheeped HF's big post on iGrok [which was the vote that put iGrok in the lead btw].

Meanwhile iGrok seems like he wants HF gone. [I say that but his response to HF did not read like he thought HF was mafia at all]

Anyway I don't have much else to add. A lot of the recent pages could be cut out and it would not have changed my reads at all. I still think iGrok is WAY scummier than Artanis. The most feasible town motive people [I think BC?] came up with was that he makes notes and puts in effort but a lot of people have been doing that so I don't think that's really AI.

I'm not sure on the third mafia. Probably in Artanis/ Koshi/ BC. Artanis is mafia if he doesn't step it up but I have enough doubt about him to not want him dead. Koshi is self-explanatory with his filter. BC's main selling point for him being town is the meta thing. I personally think he looks mafia but I could be misreading him because of our different playstyles so am willing to give him a chance.

What? I was asleep/busy after not scumreading BC/WBG anymore, and you by proxy as the way you went about BC being a large part of my read on you. As soon as I came back to the thread I started reading his case and ended up scumreading him. Is this your main qualm on me? What was your read on me based on before yesterday?

That's why Calix disappeared. Also, the meta read was one I had in a general sense and I still think it's true. I just acknowledged that this isn't how he's playing this game, ergo he's no longer a scumread. I'm not sure how that's difficult to understand.

ah fuck. didnt see that. nvm.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 15:57 GMT
#4208
On May 26 2019 00:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 00:34 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:23 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:14 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:02 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 25 2019 23:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
Artanis I remember you being surprised at my name being an anagram this game, were you not around for those shenanigans

I actually literally made kurumi change my role PM flavour just so that I could whip out my claim. Then I think someone nuked my face

I don't remember.

On May 25 2019 23:51 disformation wrote:
[quote]
fair enough. tldr version:

lynch into:
bc - scum for often not explaining his reads, working very omgus based, generally not doing much after d1
art - falling off super hard in quality after d1. E.g. the super rushed list stuff n1 and waffling off bc was really strange too. Esp. since he still believed in the meta read on bc to be true.
grok - hidden notes, complaining and then gtfoing a bunch

maybe scum
conv - see earlier

town lean
calix - see earlier

town jesus and the holy spirit
jock

Do you think it's really that likely I'm scum with the two people I've voted all game? Also, what puts iGrok ahead of being lynched instead of me? Also also, what do you think of WBG's point on Conversion being town for his meta cases and him backing off on being a dick, basically?

dont think all 3 in my lynch list are scum. prolly 2 though.
earlier: i liked your day 1, so you had some town points. now: one of you two is here doing stuff, the other is not.
one of the meta dives conv did was on me, so that factors in on the read progression on me that i liked. mh. maybe i should give him more points for this kind of stuff and put him in town lean together with calix. dont think i want to lynch either of them today tbh.

I find your progression strange. Day 1 you were onto BC with me. Day 2 you're now on iGrok with me, so we have had the same general reads. What in my quality specifically is bad to you and is it still true after today?

i dont think im on igrok with you cause you made any good posts on igrok?
quality: tldr:
On May 24 2019 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I HAVE NO SCUMREADS


Yes, that was before HF cased iGrok. Also, why does me stating I have no scumreads make me more scummy than towny? I've posted a ton since that post for you to re-eval off of.

ah okay.
havent fully factored in the posts of today in yet tbh. was kinda waiting for you to finish reading and wanted to see what you conclude from there.
but yeah you coming in (thursday?) evening saying the meta read on bc is true, waffling off bugs, and then going "lol i have no scumread, cu" isnt what id exactly call high quality.
another thing: in your n1 list you had calix scum lean. no mention of calix -> "i have no scumreads"

sooo... yeah

On May 25 2019 20:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 24 2019 21:10 Calix wrote:
On May 24 2019 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least i didn't read your iGrok case HF. I am sure it is logically sound and can be even good, i just dont believe iGrok does what he did as mafia by eod1. Assuming you're town (you probably should do that if you are town) and knowing ruxxar is town there is simply no reason why he should make a stupid propositional calculus "testimony" about HF/ruxxar/Calix, one that is even wrong lol when he can just take a stance between those three players (or rather Calix/ruxxar) and vote for a townie. I say vote for a townie because in my eyes iGrok did that as scum ONLY in case calix is mafia, it's the only scenario that makes sense (even if you were mafia with iGrok it doesn't make sense to me) and in my opinion it definitely shouldn't make sense to you otherwise.

I still hate that Conversion participated in that shit and i think it makes him mafia.

In addition to what i have said about calix is this:
On May 24 2019 06:44 Calix wrote:
IMO rayn was posting a lot of bullshit. Like the meta thing which literally does not make me anything but which is the basis for his SUPER STRONG scum read, lmao. Or his interactions with Conversion where he somehow missed me saying 'look forward to seeing what you come up with, Conversion' to push a terrible Calix/ Conversion team.

[...]

I'm not gonna go ham on rayn though. It doesn't make sense to kill him today given how the chat's been going and there are better mafia to murder.

I don't believe this is what town!Calix does if she is quite certain i am mafia. I also have no idea what the last sentence even is lol...

I dont know what Artanis is, could be mafia could be town.



I tried killing you yesterday. It did nothing. Even if I make a case on you, people will say 'oh but his PC claim' or 'but his meta' and you will not die. I do not waste precious time on making a case on someone nobody wants dead. Especially when I could lynch my other scum-read instead.

Anyway.

I'm not sure how likely it is that iGrok and Artanis are both scum. If they were working together, I think they'd be trying to lynch me instead of...whatever the fuck it is they're doing.

Artanis seemed pretty happy to have no scum-reads for ages until he sheeped HF's big post on iGrok [which was the vote that put iGrok in the lead btw].

Meanwhile iGrok seems like he wants HF gone. [I say that but his response to HF did not read like he thought HF was mafia at all]

Anyway I don't have much else to add. A lot of the recent pages could be cut out and it would not have changed my reads at all. I still think iGrok is WAY scummier than Artanis. The most feasible town motive people [I think BC?] came up with was that he makes notes and puts in effort but a lot of people have been doing that so I don't think that's really AI.

I'm not sure on the third mafia. Probably in Artanis/ Koshi/ BC. Artanis is mafia if he doesn't step it up but I have enough doubt about him to not want him dead. Koshi is self-explanatory with his filter. BC's main selling point for him being town is the meta thing. I personally think he looks mafia but I could be misreading him because of our different playstyles so am willing to give him a chance.

What? I was asleep/busy after not scumreading BC/WBG anymore, and you by proxy as the way you went about BC being a large part of my read on you. As soon as I came back to the thread I started reading his case and ended up scumreading him. Is this your main qualm on me? What was your read on me based on before yesterday?

That's why Calix disappeared. Also, the meta read was one I had in a general sense and I still think it's true. I just acknowledged that this isn't how he's playing this game, ergo he's no longer a scumread. I'm not sure how that's difficult to understand.

ah fuck. didnt see that. nvm.

So can you re-eval me now? I'm not going to be in here for much longer. I'll check back later tonight but I'd rather not spend all my free time playing mafia. Hopefully iGrok and Calix will have returned by then to answer my questions, and if I can get some more reasoning out of you that'd be swell.

i kinda was hoping for a bit of a conclusion or a few more reads before reevaling tbh.
where are you currently on bc?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 15:59 GMT
#4210
mh lukewarm feeling
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 16:07 GMT
#4217
On May 26 2019 01:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 01:04 Conversion wrote:
On May 26 2019 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 26 2019 00:59 Holyflare wrote:
I'm very underwhelmed with artanis

Agree. Lots of blendy "oh I already did all this already" scummy posts. Maybe I just think he's mafia and I see what I want to see, but he didn't seem particularly townie while he was here.


at what point do we excuse Artanis' points on lack of time vs. flailing mafia? I think a lot of people want to SEE a great player in Artanis, but it's just not coming (I don't think I ever played with Artanis, so not sure. I usually believe the vets when they say X is a good player though)

I mean, idk. He's one of the leading wagons and he's next up if he's not lynched today afaik. He's been talking about time constraints all game and it keeps not being convincing. *shrug*

i mean at some point you are going to have to consider that both alignments can be fucked over by time constraints. normally best way to do is to see what the people do with their limited time (bc: not much).
so im not sure what art really tried to do with his time here?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 18:49 GMT
#4323
sooo...
im a bit groggy and making dinner.
so brain cell count is fairly low.

but wbg is saying grok is blue.
while voting grok.

... ?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 19:14 GMT
#4353
On May 26 2019 04:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 03:49 disformation wrote:
sooo...
im a bit groggy and making dinner.
so brain cell count is fairly low.

but wbg is saying grok is blue.
while voting grok.

... ?


I made a giant bc post for you

hello hf
(on it while eating)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 19:45 GMT
#4386
On May 26 2019 04:14 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 04:05 Holyflare wrote:
On May 26 2019 03:49 disformation wrote:
sooo...
im a bit groggy and making dinner.
so brain cell count is fairly low.

but wbg is saying grok is blue.
while voting grok.

... ?


I made a giant bc post for you

hello hf
(on it while eating)

some considerations:
you say his internal logic makes a lot more sense after he could latch onto the art thing. i agree, but isnt it also easier for scum to have a more consitent logic when they can just scum read one dude the whole time? had a scum game where my bread and butter was to make okayish cases about one dude and do the tunnel dance.
hard to tell with art being this bleh though.

like id also say he def. does things in his pace and doesnt care if ppl dont like. prolly more towny. (unless like all wagons are town or he is gonna bus hard. though art <> bc double bus would be weird?).

not sure if i agree on the strength of the tr at the end though. like his d1 was really oof.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 19:47 GMT
#4387
everytime i look at teh thread something is going on.
whtat did i miss this time?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 19:47 GMT
#4389
On May 26 2019 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
No you don't think bugs is mafia.

ur trollin lol


I had a gif prepared the whole time.

U ALMOST GOT ME


I'm not lying?

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Why do you think he's been making all these blue posts all of a sudden?

u w0t now?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 19:49 GMT
#4390
wasnt this supposed to be a normal game?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 20:04 GMT
#4410
On May 26 2019 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
The way he's talking to me is the most buddy buddy psychological manipulation thing I can think of. Not sure if he believes I'm falling for it or something but I pretty much ignore every single one of those posts and think what I want, not what he tells me.

YO YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL, HE SCUMREADS PEOPLE FOR TALKING LIKE THAT

if wbg shoots hf with the gun hf gave him im going to die from the laughing fit =D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 20:06 GMT
#4415
On May 26 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If iGrok's actually blue why hasn't he claimed yet though? He's on the chopping block. What even was the breadcrumb?


Now that Calix is 100% town and I town cased BC what are your mafia reads?

thoughts on my re on your case?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 20:15 GMT
#4426
On May 26 2019 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 04:45 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:14 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:05 Holyflare wrote:
On May 26 2019 03:49 disformation wrote:
sooo...
im a bit groggy and making dinner.
so brain cell count is fairly low.

but wbg is saying grok is blue.
while voting grok.

... ?


I made a giant bc post for you

hello hf
(on it while eating)

some considerations:
you say his internal logic makes a lot more sense after he could latch onto the art thing. i agree, but isnt it also easier for scum to have a more consitent logic when they can just scum read one dude the whole time? had a scum game where my bread and butter was to make okayish cases about one dude and do the tunnel dance.
hard to tell with art being this bleh though.

like id also say he def. does things in his pace and doesnt care if ppl dont like. prolly more towny. (unless like all wagons are town or he is gonna bus hard. though art <> bc double bus would be weird?).

not sure if i agree on the strength of the tr at the end though. like his d1 was really oof.


Yes, but it wasn't just his read on Artanis that was consistent, it was all the rest too after day 1. The tone on n1/d2 reads a lot townier to me. If I was mafia though I could definitely get BC lynched for the day 1 posts I think, that's how bad those points look.

aight. i dont think he's an option today anways. if he keeps the n1/d2 line going i can prolly see it.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2019 20:18 GMT
#4427
On May 26 2019 05:15 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:45 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:14 disformation wrote:
On May 26 2019 04:05 Holyflare wrote:
On May 26 2019 03:49 disformation wrote:
sooo...
im a bit groggy and making dinner.
so brain cell count is fairly low.

but wbg is saying grok is blue.
while voting grok.

... ?


I made a giant bc post for you

hello hf
(on it while eating)

some considerations:
you say his internal logic makes a lot more sense after he could latch onto the art thing. i agree, but isnt it also easier for scum to have a more consitent logic when they can just scum read one dude the whole time? had a scum game where my bread and butter was to make okayish cases about one dude and do the tunnel dance.
hard to tell with art being this bleh though.

like id also say he def. does things in his pace and doesnt care if ppl dont like. prolly more towny. (unless like all wagons are town or he is gonna bus hard. though art <> bc double bus would be weird?).

not sure if i agree on the strength of the tr at the end though. like his d1 was really oof.


Yes, but it wasn't just his read on Artanis that was consistent, it was all the rest too after day 1. The tone on n1/d2 reads a lot townier to me. If I was mafia though I could definitely get BC lynched for the day 1 posts I think, that's how bad those points look.

aight. i dont think he's an option today anways. if he keeps the n1/d2 line going i can prolly see it.

wish he had done a bit more though.
might also be a style thing. possible that its a situation were we end up reading each other scum cause of style reasons. didnt he haev a similar problem with calix?
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