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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:41 VisceraEyes wrote: This isn't fucking fair I wanted to play with HF but I definitely didn't want to be harpied whilst doing so. You can just ignore bugs for a bit. Was it the game I linked to you that bugs was calm? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:42 Holyflare wrote: You can just ignore bugs for a bit. Was it the game I linked to you that bugs was calm? BC* | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:42 disformation wrote: wow, wow, wow, wow. wow! + Show Spoiler + wow! can you prove i'm thinking? I wasnt talking about you love. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
oh. we cool then | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
😁🤣😂🤣😁 | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:42 Holyflare wrote: You can just ignore bugs for a bit. Was it the game I linked to you that bugs was calm? I think so. No record of the PMs it was IRC but he was super reasonable and nice and it convinced me he was town. I might have gone to bat for him over it. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
Since you two are either paranoid of me or think I'm 'mafia', fancy making some sort of case? Asking some questions? Or in Koshi's case, pushing me so that I die over 'obvtown' iGrok  | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Lack of scumreads has never been an accurate way to read me sorry bubby you're just very very wrong here. You aren't even trusting BC, who you're hinging a lot fo your opinions on, you've got fucking blinders on. You WANT me to be mafia. And sorry baby, but we don't always get what we want. I have a desire to tally these types of mischaracterisations as they happen and I see them, but unfortunately if I do this the thread will continue to devolve rapidly. However I will make an exception this once and show everyone how big of a mischaracterisation this is, and how it's not supported by actual hard evidence whatsoever, because I know I am not relying on BC's reads at all this game and haven't really looked to him for any useful info for quite a while now, probably since early-mid D1. #1. Day 1 BC stated Calix was scum and I never shared this read. #2. BC put Jock on a watchlist which I misinterpreted as him calling Jock scum and I strongly disagreed with him immediately and never once moved my read closer to BC's. See BC's 448, my response at 449 and BC's counter response at #450 #3. BC scumread Artanis far before I did and my reason for scumreading Artanis was basically completely independent of BC scumreading him. Maybe the knowledge that BC and Artanis were attacking each other and I read BC fairly townish while I had passed on reading Artanis d1 tainted my read but I didn't actually scumread him until after I finished responding to and processing #2571 in context of a full read of Artanis in light of his scummy case on me focusing on me misremembering something. #4. BC kept disformation in scum and conversion in null far longer than I did. To the best of my recollection I was pretty town on conversion by mid d1 and I slowly upgraded disformation over time as I watched his posting. I also never pushed disformation even though I offered him as a lynch candidate, and by the time I offered the candidates to VE I actually townread disformation as well. I have a note from day 1 that VE said we reached opposite reads on disformation/ruxxar after I publically stated that I was townreading disformation, yet he claimed I was calling him scum on the basis of not wanting to consolidate on the same targets I had presented. This made absolutely no sense at the time because the two main consolidation targets I offered were disformation and ruxxar, and if VE reached the opposite conclusion as me on both players he should have voted for disformation. #739 is me publically announcing I don't want to lynch disformation, #769 is me responding to VE saying he doesn't want to consolidate on my targets and that it's not scummy for him to do that, and #969 is VE admitting he came to the opposite conclusion on disformation as me. So if he reached the opposite conclusion on disformation why was he not willing to vote him earlier when I asked? and yes, as the one thing you haven't mischaracterized, several times now BC has told me that I should townread you and he never managed to convince me because I felt his opinion/feel was incongruent with facts. But now, with all the evidence, it's clear that it's actually more often that I'm disagreeing with BC than agreeing with him. Which is also why he's not particularly high on my townread list either. Higher than you, though, because I can actually rationalise his play from a town perspective and I can't rationalise yours. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:46 Calix wrote: Good talk, disfo and Koshi. Since you two are either paranoid of me or think I'm 'mafia', fancy making some sort of case? Asking some questions? Or in Koshi's case, pushing me so that I die over 'obvtown' iGrok I am good ty. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote: I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points. If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux. Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing. Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either... On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote: Oh right, ##Vote: Calix On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote: Because I don't think I can get HF lynched. but he still votes HF at the end! | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote: oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino) but he still votes HF at the end! I mean he town cased ruxxar so that's not my point? | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote: So I color-code my notes but I'm not going to do all the extra formatting for TL colors, and had something marked in red that in hindsight should not have been on ruxxar. just went back through his filter, and here's my key notes. Note that I don't always write down the post #, not all posts are by that person, etc ruX quick summary post #811 feels weird -ruxx & disfo? can't be... maybe buddying by rux?? would vote for convo #862 actually takes effort, anti BC slightly #977 -rayn = town -hf = mafia, manipulating - also concurs with my point that HF was looking for wagons #1096 - HF calls rux scum in response ##1102 -Ruxx: hf is acting scummy Hf: youre right, but your scummy for calling me scum. #1347 rux makes good points that are town-indicative So before I went back through rux's filter just now, I only had 3 points on rux. The summary post, the #1096 (which is HF attacking rux), and #1347. But when I went back through the filter, I realized I'd missed a couple things. Like #862, I had that in my internal notes pile but never moved it to external once I looked back at it. I think that was a good post. #977, if you think HF is scum, feels pretty green. HF responds in the #1096 that I'd had before, but #1102 is exactly how I'd feel as well. So when I look back, I realize that my dislike of ruxxar mostly comes from A) me not reading closely enough and/or skipping some of his posts and B) the strongest argument against ruxxar comes from someone that I am now pretty sure is mafia. I also don't think that Calix and Ruxx are both mafia because... obviously. no need to bus here. And ruxx and HF aren't the same alignment, and calix and HF aren't the same alignment. So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. fuuck lol let me actually read HF's case.. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On May 25 2019 00:46 Calix wrote: Good talk, disfo and Koshi. Since you two are either paranoid of me or think I'm 'mafia', fancy making some sort of case? Asking some questions? Or in Koshi's case, pushing me so that I die over 'obvtown' iGrok yeah, not 100% sure about your alignment. still think you are less likely scum than grok, art, bc. your reads look reasonable to me. and unless a bunch of other guys you actually play when you are here. | ||
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